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Title: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 18:01:35
Is HC of 291 good, bad or indifferent?

::) ::)
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: geoffr70 on 23 November 2010, 18:39:47
looking at my last MOT emissions sheet, it says max limit 200, actual value 42. :( It doesn't look good :-/
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 18:42:52
My last MOT recorded 20...
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Post by: Del Boy on 23 November 2010, 18:47:44
291 wow  :o
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Post by: PhilRich on 23 November 2010, 18:59:15
Are you sure there isn't a decimal point missing TB? :o or is this a reading you've taken yourself? :-/
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Post by: feeutfo on 23 November 2010, 19:01:33
hope Kevs garage is free...?
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 19:31:22
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hope Kevs garage is free...?
Thats a seperate project  :-X
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: vauxfan2k on 23 November 2010, 19:36:06
whack some forte in it and give it a thrash, see if it comes down below 200  :o
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Post by: Lazydocker on 23 November 2010, 20:17:55
Is this the Silver Bullet? If so, present it on LPG (and tell them so!) and it's just a basic emissions test :y :y
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2010, 20:49:47
Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 20:53:15
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Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin
Hmmm, can you see my 'friendly' MOT tester letting that go come MOT time in Feb? ;D ;D  :'(
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 November 2010, 20:57:41
ISTR mine was around that figure last at last year's test... But CO is zero ;)
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2010, 20:58:44
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Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin
Hmmm, can you see my 'friendly' MOT tester letting that go come MOT time in Feb? ;D ;D  :'(

Hmm. Do the emissions smell of pine.:-X No, let's not go there. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 November 2010, 20:58:47
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Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin
Hmmm, can you see my 'friendly' MOT tester letting that go come MOT time in Feb? ;D ;D  :'(

Yes... Present it running on LPG and tell him so... He has to do a LPG emissions test (BET) which that will pass :y :y
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2010, 21:01:18
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Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin
Hmmm, can you see my 'friendly' MOT tester letting that go come MOT time in Feb? ;D ;D  :'(

Yes... Present it running on LPG and tell him so... He has to do a LPG emissions test (BET) which that will pass :y :y

Good point. :y And you can change the fuel type to LPG with the DVLA so it'll all be set up for that when he dials up using his sh1te siemens PC and modem. ;)

kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2010, 21:21:27
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Nothing to worry about. My last test was 419. :y


















Oops! That was the wrong car. That's for a tuned Zetec with a home-made injection system and nothing in the exhaust but a perforated pipe surrounded by some sound deadening material. ;D

Kevin

Speaking of.. What is the deal with the emissions test for a kit car? Clearly you can't exactly test it 'per the book' since it isn't in the book, so do you get an engine-age related test, or the non-CAT test?
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 November 2010, 21:22:42
Not sure now but used to be a non cat test.
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 21:27:37
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Good point. :y And you can change the fuel type to LPG with the DVLA so it'll all be set up for that when he dials up using his sh1te siemens PC and modem. ;)

kevin
I think I need to get down a DVLA Office. *sigh*.  Northampton nearest, that means taking a day off :(
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Post by: Lazydocker on 23 November 2010, 21:29:55
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Good point. :y And you can change the fuel type to LPG with the DVLA so it'll all be set up for that when he dials up using his sh1te siemens PC and modem. ;)

kevin
I think I need to get down a DVLA Office. *sigh*.  Northampton nearest, that means taking a day off :(
Which reminds me... Must do mine :-[ ::)

Can be done by post though IIRCC
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 21:36:05
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Good point. :y And you can change the fuel type to LPG with the DVLA so it'll all be set up for that when he dials up using his sh1te siemens PC and modem. ;)

kevin
I think I need to get down a DVLA Office. *sigh*.  Northampton nearest, that means taking a day off :(
Which reminds me... Must do mine :-[ ::)

Can be done by post though IIRCC
It impacts tax disc, so you have to send that off.
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Entwood on 23 November 2010, 21:38:32
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Good point. :y And you can change the fuel type to LPG with the DVLA so it'll all be set up for that when he dials up using his sh1te siemens PC and modem. ;)

kevin
I think I need to get down a DVLA Office. *sigh*.  Northampton nearest, that means taking a day off :(
Which reminds me... Must do mine :-[ ::)

Can be done by post though IIRCC
It impacts tax disc, so you have to send that off.

I had to return my old disc AFTER they sent me the new "dual fuel" one ....   :)
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 21:40:21
Guess I'll be on the blower tomorrow....
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Entwood on 23 November 2010, 21:41:41
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Guess I'll be on the blower tomorrow....

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/ChangesToYourRegistrationCertificate/DG_4022054

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How to tell DVLA about the changes

Using your registration certificate you’ll need to:

    * notify any changes or corrections by completing section seven
    * sign and date the declaration box

For changes not listed in section seven you'll need to underline the vehicle details in section four, writing the new information next to them. You must also produce documentary evidence with a covering letter explaining the changes.

If the changes don’t affect your vehicle tax, then send the registration certificate and any additional documentation to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1BA.

If the changes affect the amount of vehicle tax you pay, you’ll need to apply to your nearest DVLA local office to:

    * apply for an exchange licence if your tax disc shows the old details
    * retax your vehicle if the vehicle tax has expired

In both cases, you’ll need to include the registration certificate and any additional documentation with your application.

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Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2010, 21:46:51
that implies I have to go to local office?
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2010, 21:55:34
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Guess I'll be on the blower tomorrow....

Don't bother phoning. All lines lead to some bint in Swansea who's a useful as a used condom... You get the picture.

Turn up with the docs, or get the form from the Post Office and send it in.

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Speaking of.. What is the deal with the emissions test for a kit car? Clearly you can't exactly test it 'per the book' since it isn't in the book, so do you get an engine-age related test, or the non-CAT test?

You have to prove the age of the engine. If it predates August 1995, Non-cat limits apply (3.5% CO, 1200 HC). After that it gets a BET (0.3% and 200HC..?). Technically if it gets a Q plate or is "Amateur built" it's visible smoke only though, although they are getting clever and logging emissions limits with the registration so they pop up during MOT.

So, IVA it with an old nail of a 1994 engine, then do what you want after that. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2010, 22:08:29
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Speaking of.. What is the deal with the emissions test for a kit car? Clearly you can't exactly test it 'per the book' since it isn't in the book, so do you get an engine-age related test, or the non-CAT test?

You have to prove the age of the engine. If it predates August 1995, Non-cat limits apply (3.5% CO, 1200 HC). After that it gets a BET (0.3% and 200HC..?). Technically if it gets a Q plate or is "Amateur built" it's visible smoke only though, although they are getting clever and logging emissions limits with the registration so they pop up during MOT.

So, IVA it with an old nail of a 1994 engine, then do what you want after that. :y

Kevin

Ahh that's good to know :) (For the day I finally get around to building one!)
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 25 November 2010, 19:32:42
Initial checks after reseting the BLMs are looking promising :)

Additionally (though only done 120ish miles since reset), a tiny, but  measurable improvement in economy going by the fuel computer - wouldn't expect big things, as it was only the idle BLMs that were screwed (both banks).
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2010, 22:03:14
I ran out of LPG today, and have been driving spiritedly this evening, in very low air temperatures. All the while I've been saying that LPG makes no noticeable difference to performance.. I've been lying. ;D

Problem is, I need to fill up the LPG tank because I'm burning petrol like it's going out of fashion. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: TheBoy on 25 November 2010, 22:13:42
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I ran out of LPG today, and have been driving spiritedly this evening, in very low air temperatures. All the while I've been saying that LPG makes no noticeable difference to performance.. I've been lying. ;D

Problem is, I need to fill up the LPG tank because I'm burning petrol like it's going out of fashion. ;D

Kevin
I frequently run out.  Can't say I massively noticed LPG v petrol performance differences  :-/
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Lazydocker on 25 November 2010, 22:43:40
Can't say I notice any difference in performance TBH ::)
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 November 2010, 00:00:13
Maybe mine needs a tweak. It's noticeably quicker on Morrisons petrol that's been in the tank since about September. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: djac on 26 November 2010, 10:49:02
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I ran out of LPG today, and have been driving spiritedly this evening, in very low air temperatures. All the while I've been saying that LPG makes no noticeable difference to performance.. I've been lying. ;D

Problem is, I need to fill up the LPG tank because I'm burning petrol like it's going out of fashion. ;D

Kevin

Ah yes, nature's turbocharger!
Title: Re: Emmissions
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 November 2010, 22:31:54
Worst to best

Tesco - LPG - Shell/BP