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Title: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 12:53:44
decided we need a 4 x 4 but we don't need the size of a 4 x 4 pity the omega wasn't made in 4 x4 guise any ideas as too car size 4 x 4 :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 12:54:53
A 2.8 4x4 Insignia will fit the bill nicely! :D :D ;)
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: albitz on 30 November 2010, 12:59:31
Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 13:02:04
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A 2.8 4x4 Insignia will fit the bill nicely! :D :D ;)


it would a liitle outside my budget  :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 13:03:06
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/

well thats the idea of the post  :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: tunnie on 30 November 2010, 13:05:10
Jag X Type 2.5 & 3.0's are 4x4, quite cheap too  :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 13:12:17
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Jag X Type 2.5 & 3.0's are 4x4, quite cheap too  :y


good idea that had'nt even thought of a jag    :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: omegod on 30 November 2010, 13:14:05
Sierra 2.9i  xr4x4, cheap even for a goodun and classic insurance to boot
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: henri on 30 November 2010, 13:24:29
just a reply to alarming man,I assume you,ve never owned a 4x4 I,ve had 3 Pajeros and although the Omega is a fantastic motor It will not perform as good as a proper 4x4 I tow a 21'0 ABI Twin axle and although I towed it from Scotland to Birmingham when I purchased it in no way performed as good as the Paj fully loaded throughout France and the Uk did,nt know I had it on the back. So before anyone starts shouting at me I,ve had two Migs present one 2.6 cdx great car but although its good for towing it,s not in the same class as the Paj with its superior body weight,I know a lot of mig owners will ddisagree witjh me but it,s my opinion having owned and towed with both.Can,t comment on other 4x4s but I,m sure there are a lot of non farmers who will read this who can give good reason for owing a 4x4 :y :y :y 
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: djac on 30 November 2010, 13:25:13
Daihatsu Terios?
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 November 2010, 13:55:34
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4.

I'm with you on that. The fact that so many people are prepared to lumber around in them these days I find difficult to understand.

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Jag X Type 2.5 & 3.0's are 4x4, quite cheap too

Not 4x4 as in "any good in the snow" though, unfortunately. They are only 4x4 to cover up how dire a FWD car would be with that amount of grunt IMHO. My neighbour had one and managed to knacker the front suspension when he skidded into a curb on snow.  ::)

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I assume you,ve never owned a 4x4 I,ve had 3 Pajeros and although the Omega is a fantastic motor It will not perform as good as a proper 4x4

Depends how you define "perform". For me? 0-60 significantly below 10 seconds, top speed comfortably over 120. Decent amount of agility on the twisty roads, low road noise, comfy ride, fuel consumption at an affordable level (high 20's on petrol, say), able to tow 1.5 tonnes without flinching...

Unless I absolutely needed to drive through a muddy field on a regular basis it's Omega all the way, otherwise I'd have to sacrifice most of the above. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 14:10:17
get yourself a suzuki grand vitara 2.5 v6   weve just updated my wifes one and they are mental fun  and very quick for a 4x4 just pretty juicy
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 16:05:02
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just a reply to alarming man,I assume you,ve never owned a 4x4 I,ve had 3 Pajeros and although the Omega is a fantastic motor It will not perform as good as a proper 4x4 I tow a 21'0 ABI Twin axle and although I towed it from Scotland to Birmingham when I purchased it in no way performed as good as the Paj fully loaded throughout France and the Uk did,nt know I had it on the back. So before anyone starts shouting at me I,ve had two Migs present one 2.6 cdx great car but although its good for towing it,s not in the same class as the Paj with its superior body weight,I know a lot of mig owners will ddisagree witjh me but it,s my opinion having owned and towed with both.Can,t comment on other 4x4s but I,m sure there are a lot of non farmers who will read this who can give good reason for owing a 4x4 :y :y :y 

i would never give up the omega for a 4 x 4 as i think it is a great car..need a 4 x 4 for where we live on top of two great wacking hills that the highways agency  quiet by accident forget to salt. every year.so i don't need a fully fledged 4 x 4 although yep body weight etc is a bounus but only problem is we dont need anything that big  :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: hoofing it on 30 November 2010, 16:20:20
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Jag X Type 2.5 & 3.0's are 4x4, quite cheap too  :y
Ahh the ford mondeo with a transit engine that looks like a jag :D :-X
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: hoofing it on 30 November 2010, 16:22:53
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decided we need a 4 x 4 but we don't need the size of a 4 x 4 pity the omega wasn't made in 4 x4 guise any ideas as too car size 4 x 4 :y
If you wan't a good cheap small 4x4 get a fiat panda 4x4 they never get stuck.
Ive seen one in a race up a steep muddy hill against all the bigger 4x4's for a bet and won.
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Debs. on 30 November 2010, 16:39:32
Just an idle thought: do any of these modern, 'car based' 4 x 4`s, have proper 4WD features like; low ranges? (and perhaps more usefully) a centre-difflock? :-/

It`s surprising how much I`m relying on the Disco`s centre-difflock traversing slick, ice and snow cloaked hills. ;)
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Andy B on 30 November 2010, 16:44:05
Subaru Forester  :-/
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: PhilRich on 30 November 2010, 18:46:40
This looks interesting (if you're brave or daft enough!) ;) :y
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TWIN-ENGINE-PROJECT-CAR-4x4-3180cc-VERY-FAST-/190471605640?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c58fe0d88

Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 November 2010, 19:32:51
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This looks interesting (if you're brave or daft enough!) ;) :y
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TWIN-ENGINE-PROJECT-CAR-4x4-3180cc-VERY-FAST-/190471605640?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c58fe0d88


Words really do fail me this time. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 November 2010, 19:35:03
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Subaru Forester  :-/

definitely.. :y

todays most 4*4 cars are 4x4 only in name.. :-/

check youtube videos.. on an inclined test (specially made for this type of vehicles) let the cars aside , even most 4x4 jeeps, suvs fail.. :(


subaru..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6-ERc-DfhA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY3cZYre5oo&feature=related
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 November 2010, 20:02:03
and one more ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yj7kHHg08
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: PhilRich on 30 November 2010, 21:19:39
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decided we need a 4 x 4 but we don't need the size of a 4 x 4 pity the omega wasn't made in 4 x4 guise any ideas as too car size 4 x 4 :y








You can get a Renault Kangoo 4x4 version afaiaa, loads of space (I had a kangoo for a short period, not bad either :o) :y
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: hotrod222278 on 30 November 2010, 21:42:34
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This looks interesting (if you're brave or daft enough!) ;) :y
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TWIN-ENGINE-PROJECT-CAR-4x4-3180cc-VERY-FAST-/190471605640?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c58fe0d88

WTF, just plain mad really.....
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: bluey on 30 November 2010, 22:16:50
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/

Essential workers for one.  The old dear had a LR for doing her rounds caring for pensioners and convalescing/disabled.  Not much comfort for someone bedridden and not living in a residential area that the DN can't make it because of some snow. 
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: bluey on 30 November 2010, 22:41:45
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This looks interesting (if you're brave or daft enough!) ;) :y
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TWIN-ENGINE-PROJECT-CAR-4x4-3180cc-VERY-FAST-/190471605640?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c58fe0d88

WTF, just plain mad really.....

Now THAT is a bit special!  ;D

Austin did a development of the Moke on the same lines for the armed forces - twin engined with single controls apart from the gearlever I think.  Apparently it was a mad old thing too.
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: 2woody on 30 November 2010, 22:44:35
you can do a great amount with just proper tyres.

I have a Discovery and use it for a) just bumpling around Tynedale, b) towing stuff on the trailer, c) towing the horse and d) carting my tools across fields to stranded machinery. All uses for which it's ideal. Mind you, you have to thing twice about going any great distance, 'cos 16mpg takes its toll.

regarding the snow, yes the Disco is more capable than a car, but only once the snow is deeper than ten inches or so.
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Shackeng on 30 November 2010, 23:00:19
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/


 Ahhh, spoken like a man who lives on the level ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Simon72 on 30 November 2010, 23:04:53
Have you considered a Fiat Panda 4x4 ;-)

Narrow tyres and four wheel drive, lol
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Vamps on 02 December 2010, 20:25:39
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Have you considered a Fiat Panda 4x4 ;-)

Narrow tyres and four wheel drive, lol

Like the Lada Niva, excellent 4x4 performance... :y :y and cheap as chips to buy, when you could buy them.... :D
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: albitz on 02 December 2010, 20:34:37
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/


 Ahhh, spoken like a man who lives on the level ::) ::) ::)
Nope. There are 4  roads out of this village and each one involves going down a steep hill and then up a steep hill to the main road. ;)
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: albitz on 02 December 2010, 20:46:27
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Call me old fashioned, but I cant see how anyone in this country who isnt a farmer actually needs a 4x4. :-/

Essential workers for one.  The old dear had a LR for doing her rounds caring for pensioners and convalescing/disabled.  Not much comfort for someone bedridden and not living in a residential area that the DN can't make it because of some snow. 
Fair point Bluey, but you know what I mean. The vast majority of people who drive them dont need one and havent got a clue how to make best use of one even when they do own one.
A perfect example would be the woman in a 4x4 who was in front of me for about 6 miles as I drove home from work this morning. Her speed varied between 7 and 15 mph, when even my old RWD Mig could have easily varied it between 20 and 45 mph if she hadnt been in front of it. ::) ;)
Title: Re: NEED A 4 X 4
Post by: Omegatoy on 02 December 2010, 21:08:00
A word to the wise!!! before you go buying a big diese engined 4x4, see you live near london, this will affect you effectively it says 4x4 will not be allowed inside the m25, admittedly having ploughed through it there are exceptions but jeez what a silly idea!!!http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/2021.aspx