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Title: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 01 December 2010, 20:24:07
Well, this is a case of respect your elders, know whereof you came, family history, etc...

To all Omega owners, check this lovely old girl out...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-VAUXHALL-CARLTON-2-0-Automatic-Mk1-Droop-Snoot-/220696233596?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336285467c#ht_5006wt_1139

I think it looks fantastic, every bit the equivalent of a '02 Omega GLS 2.0, not the fastest, or the highest spec, by any standards, but a good car, nonetheless. Some lovely photots, and a pleaseure to look at.

I've had my twopenneth (never thought id use that word in a sentence) so what do you all think? 8-) 8-)




(got sent this link by a friend, he nor I have any connection with the car)
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: aaronjb on 01 December 2010, 20:29:01
I think it looks it's age - and not in a 'beautiful classic lines' way but a 'decade that styling forgot' way ... sorry!
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: millwall on 01 December 2010, 20:50:07
not for me im afraid    a senator on the other hand :y
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 01 December 2010, 21:12:05
Ah, but this is where it all started...without that car, this site would not exist, no Omega, Senator, Monaro, Catera, no more flagship Vauxhall or Opels, no GSi or Lotus Carltons. I salute it for that :-)

Perhaps one day people will be looking at a 30-year old 3.2 MV6 and saying it's just some saloon that wasnt as good as a 5-series. Hope not, as that would be unfair.  :(
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: albitz on 01 December 2010, 21:52:55
Iirc the Carlton didnt begat the Senator. Infact the Senator may have been around first, but dont quote me on it.. :-/
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: pedroMV6 on 01 December 2010, 22:24:58
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Iirc the Carlton didnt begat the Senator. Infact the Senator may have been around first, but dont quote me on it.. :-/

Senator A at least.

The link shows a very nice Mk1 Carlton (Opel Rekord in Yerp) though! 8-)
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: mrgreen on 01 December 2010, 22:43:34
not my cup of tea i'm afraid even though there's only 20 of them left i still wouldn't rate it a classic imo it lacks character
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 02 December 2010, 00:26:33
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Iirc the Carlton didnt begat the Senator. Infact the Senator may have been around first, but dont quote me on it.. :-/

Carlton, Viceroy, Royale all shared the same platform, they were the 'V-cars' (Chevette was T-Car, Cavalier was J-Car, incidentally) The brand new 1978 V-Car platform as a whole started off the long history that finally cumninated in the 1994 Omega, and the last hurrah, Monaro.

When I said 'without this, there'd be no...blah...blah..' I was referring to the subsequent Senator Mk II, from 87-94 and the Senator Mk I (at least with a griffin on the front) didnt arrive 'til 1982/3

I can actually dig out my original press releases for the V-Cars, which give the exact dates of when each model was launched in the UK, but, to be honest Albs, Im not so pedantic as to try and prove you technically wrong, ie: which car was first by a matter of days/weeks, thirty-odd years ago! They were all launched in '78, basically  :)
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: albitz on 02 December 2010, 05:11:49
I did say dont quote me on it. ::).........sounding a tad pedantic to me. ;) :D
It would seem that Carlton and Senator were both produced from 78 to 94, although as you say, they didnt decide to stick a griffin on the front of a Senator until some time later. :y
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: mathewst on 03 December 2010, 10:17:46
Bloody hell that hood looks awful.
My godfather had a opel rekord and that looked nice, but this for me is really ugly.
Great condition though
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 06 December 2010, 22:37:52
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I did say dont quote me on it. ::).........sounding a tad pedantic to me. ;) :D
It would seem that Carlton and Senator were both produced from 78 to 94, although as you say, they didnt decide to stick a griffin on the front of a Senator until some time later. :y

Just to defend myself at bit- I was actually trying not to be pedantic, Albs. Hence why I said they both came out '78, ie: I didnt want to correct you, point out you were wrong, albeit by a matter of days. I was actually supporting your viewpoint, feller  :y (my eloquence/tact was obviously limited at gone midnight!)

I actually think there's too much of this 'technically correct' business around on forums, and I was trying to avoid that, and support your opinion, 'technically' wrong, though it was. We both know what the other's saying, both cars came out in '78, though only the Opel version was badges Senny, Vx version some time later, as you quite rightly point out. Basically I wasn't 'having a pop' at you, or anything  :)

Love or loathe the car in the original post, it is, in every sense the equivalent of all the cars we drive today. :y (ahh, now looking over my shoulder for a can of worms hurtling toward me  8-) )


Oh, and mathewst, that front end is Vauxhall-only, canned in 1981-ish. The Rekord was different, and a bit nicer, yeah (http://www.carsablanca.de/files/medias/filename/Opel%20Rekord%20E%20Berlina%20orange_0935_big.jpg) though you can see how the Vx version influenced future Carltons versions more so than the Opel front.

I best put up a pic of an Irsmcher Omega or something before any more people say they hate this Carlton!  :D :D :D

(http://www.matulaitis.lt/galerija/d/12632-2/Untitled001sm.jpg)

Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 December 2010, 22:54:33
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Well, this is a case of respect your elders, know whereof you came, family history, etc...

To all Omega owners, check this lovely old girl out...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-VAUXHALL-CARLTON-2-0-Automatic-Mk1-Droop-Snoot-/220696233596?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336285467c#ht_5006wt_1139

I think it looks fantastic, every bit the equivalent of a '02 Omega GLS 2.0, not the fastest, or the highest spec, by any standards, but a good car, nonetheless. Some lovely photots, and a pleaseure to look at.

I've had my twopenneth (never thought id use that word in a sentence) so what do you all think? 8-) 8-)




(got sent this link by a friend, he nor I have any connection with the car)


I thought that car looked very well indeed - interesting link DBG. 8-) :y
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 06 December 2010, 23:06:24
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I thought that car looked very well indeed - interesting link DBG. 8-) :y


Thanks! I thought it was interesting, yeah.

It was the last bit of styling Luton really did, this, and the Royale. Sadly all they really did was the bonnet/headlamps, and the top of the dash on the Royale. Oh, and the badge (!) That must have been a busy half hour for the design team  :) before they collected their cards  :'(
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 December 2010, 23:11:25
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I thought that car looked very well indeed - interesting link DBG. 8-) :y


Thanks! I thought it was interesting, yeah.

It was the last bit of styling Luton really did, this, and the Royale. Sadly all they really did was the bonnet/headlamps, and the top of the dash on the Royale. Oh, and the badge (!) That must have been a busy half hour for the design team  :) before they collected their cards  :'(



Reminds me of a grown-up version of the Mk1 Cavalier.
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Amigo on 06 December 2010, 23:14:39
I like it. Half the money but i still like it. It's an up & coming classic & i woul'nt be ashamed to drive round in it. Guy. 8-)
Title: Re: Meet the Parents...
Post by: Del Boy on 07 December 2010, 11:06:39
Don't like that's shape carlton, eBay item number: 150526848830 on the other hand is a totally different story, I mean I'm dribbling  :-* :-* :-*