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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: mr ICE man on 11 December 2010, 15:02:48
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firstly i will start by saying i dont wish to cause offence by this,simply just to let people know what has happend as a protection for them,i DO NOT want to start a slagging match or be rude or nasty,simply informative as i feel good work should be mentioned on this site but also work that people are not happy with,this is why i have started this.
so her goes.
i bought my car elite back in may,having put it through its mot i wanted the cambelt.tensioners,water pump,3.0 cams,cam cover gaskets,hbv and a few other bits doing,this work was carried out by ELITE PETE.at the cost of £500,this work was done and i was very happy with it.
i have since done just over 8000 miles since the work was carried out and developed an oil leak from the cam covers and the cam oil seals so i contacted ELITE PETE to tell him and to put these right as 8000 is not alot to have them go again.PETE said he was very busy at the moment and didnt have the tools to do the seal and that problem must have been caused by something else as if it was his work it would have been from day one,i agree to some extent with him,but having spent £500 i think he should at least offerd to have it back to have a look and see and offer to have put it right but he did not and i feel he was not interested in the slightest at helping.
so i asked another forum member to put the work right,which i have to pay for again.
upon him doing the work we have foung mistakes with petes work,with seal not being out back correctly,without sealent,to much sealent being put on the cam covers causing them to leak and the timing being a tooth out.
i feel people should be made aware that work carried out by some members may not be up to standard and that people should ensure tat the work is carried out correctly and some sort of reasonable garauntee.
ELITE PETE has done alot of work on this forum and i do not wish to damage his reputation but i do feel as well as commendation and also the faults should be told with his work and anyone else for that matter.
i am not happy with his work and would sadly now not recommend him to others.
if others wish to comment please do not as said above be rude or nasty i am simply stating mistakes and telling others so they have no faults or are left unhappy as i have been.
if admin decide this post is not apropriate please delete and let me know,but if people are not happy with others work it should be said.
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Umm, dont quite know what to say to that, apart from oh dear !
Im a bit shocked, as Pete has had a lot of good comments about his work. Im sure he will have his side of the story to tell. :-/
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I'm quite shocked to be honest, I've heard nothing but praise for Pete :-/
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Bet this gets deleted!
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it probably will,but people should made aware if work is substandard.i hope ive not been rude or made an enemy of pete,praise is due where praise is due and in my view visa versa.
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with seal not being out back correctly,without sealent,to much sealent being put on the cam covers causing them to leak and the timing being a tooth out.
Define 'Too much sealant' got some photos? Exactly how much was used? I can't see how too much being used would cause leaks unless tons was used?
developed an oil leak from the cam covers and the cam oil seals
Cam covers can leak from blocked breathers, which depending on your style of driving can develop in 8,000 miles. Have you changed oil since the gaskets where done?
Cam oil seals would never have been touched during cam cover change, so this would be a unrelated issue.
Lets also not forget you paid someone off a forum for the service, if you want dealer style come back to take it back and complain, then you need to pay for that! Thats what dealers are there for ::)
If you've only been fixing this oil leak, why did you strip down to the cambelt to inspect timing? I assume you used a V6 locking kit to confirm timing?
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I very much doubt it will be deleted. I dont see any reason why it should be tbh. I would imagine that Pete will have his right to reply on the subject. I dont think the admins would see it as their job to take sides on things like this, and doubt they would get involved unless the thread descends into a personal slanging match.Im sure Pete will see this thread soon and then we will know his side of the story.
Tunnie - read the post again. It had the cams changed for 3 litre cams. ::)
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I very much doubt it will be deleted. I dont see any reason why it should be tbh. I would imagine that Pete will have his right to reply on the subject.
Agreed :y
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it has been serviced by me,with genuine gm stuffs,every 3200 miles or there abouts since work was carried out.sadly no ive not taken pics of the sealent!perhaps i should have.the cam seals were removed when new cams were put in!
i do not expect dealer service but just some decent it service,even to have said bring it up and ill have look and see.
perhaps i am being too picky?but i dont think i am.
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and of course we used a v6 locking kit!
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i asked another forum member to put the work right
could this member confirm all the problems you had i dont think you would damage petes reputation as from reading on here he is very popular for repairs i wouldnt hesitate to use his services :y
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it has been serviced by me,with genuine gm stuffs,every 3200 miles or there abouts since work was carried out.sadly no ive not taken pics of the sealent!perhaps i should have.the cam seals were removed when new cams were put in!
i do not expect dealer service but just some decent it service,even to have said bring it up and ill have look and see.
perhaps i am being too picky?but i dont think i am.
Replaced with new? Genuine or pattern?
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i asked another forum member to put the work right
could this member confirm all the problems you had i dont think you would damage petes reputation as from reading on here he is very popular for repairs i wouldnt hesitate to use his services :y
Use quote button, makes it much easier to read and understand that first sentence is a quote, not your reply :y
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the other member knows i was going to post this up and has been told,if he wants to comment then he can.but i am not here to start a war,simply to say i am not pleased with the work.
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it has been serviced by me,with genuine gm stuffs,every 3200 miles or there abouts since work was carried out.sadly no ive not taken pics of the sealent!perhaps i should have.the cam seals were removed when new cams were put in!
i do not expect dealer service but just some decent it service,even to have said bring it up and ill have look and see.
perhaps i am being too picky?but i dont think i am.
Replaced with new? Genuine or pattern?
the seals were not replaced,i would however have done it if i new hey needed doingwhen cams were replaced.
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it has been serviced by me,with genuine gm stuffs,every 3200 miles or there abouts since work was carried out.sadly no ive not taken pics of the sealent!perhaps i should have.the cam seals were removed when new cams were put in!
i do not expect dealer service but just some decent it service,even to have said bring it up and ill have look and see.
perhaps i am being too picky?but i dont think i am.
Replaced with new? Genuine or pattern?
the seals were not replaced,i would however have done it if i new hey needed doingwhen cams were replaced.
Well since they are leaking 8k later, i guess they did need replacing :)
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perhaps,pete siad they were all ok!however they should have been put back with sealent and they were not.
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I would not replace cam seals when changing cams, unless they were damaged. Used genuine ones are often better than brand new pattern ones.
If the cam cover seals have failed in 8k, assuming they were originals, I would be interested in the condition of the breathers.
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perhaps,pete siad they were all ok!however they should have been put back with sealent and they were not.
I would need to check if the cam seals do have sealent applied...
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pete bought the parts for me,i assume they are gm as thats what i was told?!the breathers are all clear!
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for long years I'm here and its the first time I see someone complains about his work :-/
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i would like to say that there could be the slight possibilty you've mis-interpreted his reply when you asked for help after 8000 miles
along with many others, i cant see pete being "uninterested" in helping you, and to be fair, who's not busy at this time of year??
i went to test drive a car he had for sale, and in return, he gave a dent on my car a good seeing to without me even asking him to, he's a top guy
if he'd been less busy i really dont think he'd be giving you the brush off
8000 miles, i'd say there's plenty of mileage there to make a fresh problem appear
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Over how long a`period was the 8000 miles covered.....1 year, less, or much less? :-?
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less than 7 months by the looks of it
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Quite a tricky one this! The quotes I got from Vaux just for a cambelt change was well over £500 by itself so you can imagine what that amount of work would have cost to get a maindealer type guarantee, probably in the £1000 range.
I doubt the maindealer would re do the seals personally.
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Never really heard of anyone replacing those four camshaft seals on here, however, on both of the 3.2's i've had it was obvious that the outer (exhaust) ones needed replacing, both of these vehicles had less than 70K on them.
I think what happens is any dirt that happens to get there ends up acting like an abrasive.
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i replaced the ones on the v6 on mine when the head gasket went but then again i replaced every gasket, seal, o-ring on the top end
i also replace them after 3 years as a matter of course whatever the car or mileage
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is it the cam seals that are leaking or the cam cover gaskets or are they both the same thing or can they both spring a leak ????
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is it the cam seals that are leaking or the cam cover gaskets or are they both the same thing or can they both spring a leak ????
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OP says both Cam Covers and Cam Seals are leaking. No they are entirely different animals. Yes they can both leak.
Cam seals are circular & fit on sprocket end of cams.
Cam Cover Gaskets are shaped to fit the Cam Covers. :)
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god knows how long ive been here, but thats the first time ive heard bad words about EP,s work, find it hard to believe to be honest, but hey everyone has a bad day sometimes
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its the first ive heard of and the first time ive been.but it should be said i think!maybe it was a bad week for him or whatever,i can only go on what he has said and whats happened,he might pm me or whatever,but ive gave him a week to reply!
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i'm not sure you can put a time limit on how long someone will reply, as i've said, who's not gonna be busy at this time of year
no one sees any harm in you mentioning your car's developed more faults possibly as a result of work carried out by a member so dont worry about that, cos i'll say this much, if there's any reason pete's unable to sort it for you, i'm pretty sure other's can help in some way
this is an excellent forum, even when something not so good happens
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it has been said in one of the op post that the breathers had mayo in them when was this as the post wasn't that long ago iirc, could this not have caused the problem as some of the breather holes are small and can block, also has nothing been damaged when doing the oil cooler. I just find it very strange that faulty work takes 8000 miles to show up when we are talking oil seals, i would have thought that if oil seals of any type where fitted wrong they would leak from day 1 (my thoughts i could be wrong)
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This has happened before and will most likely happen again.
The only solution I can see is for the mechanics on here to offer some sort of warranty/guarantee on their work in case something goes wrong.
Peeps who want work doing should ask about such guarantees and if a mechanic will not guarantee his work then he/she has choice of going elsewhere or accepting this knowing if things go pear-shaped then there is no comeback.
If there is a problem then the 2 interested parties should get together and try and sort things out - if no compromise can be reached then one of the expert admins should step in and arbitrate with their decision being final.
In future if I want anything doing by a mechanic on here I would be asking 'what if ' questions.
Pete did my cambelt last jan and 8,000 miles later everything is fine - I think, tho' would have to invest £90 for a cam locking kit to check the timing.
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done my camcovers and cambelt when i bought the car on 83k. on strip down theres always something else.(waterpump).
cars now on 87k and has a coolant leak. had a look this time and the thermostat is weeping and an exhaust cam seal leaking. ok at 83k?
as forest gump once said "shit happens"
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Re: the Original post
Personally I think you should be speaking to Pete direct, and not broadcasting your complaints on the forum.
As you had 3.0 cams fitted thats clearly a modification and not a maintenance related proceedure, so is void of any warranty, whethere fitted by a dealer or not.
and as mentioned, alot can happen within an engine after 8k miles, for all anyone knows youve been giving the car a good hiding (noone puts 3.0 cams in for economy) the whole time.
Im sure Pete would appreciate you keeping this between the two of you from now on, and for others to politely keep out of it.
nuff said.
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The only solution I can see is for the mechanics on here to offer some sort of warranty/guarantee on their work in case something goes wrong.
On the other hand, we can all have the option of taking our cars to a main dealer who will offer a warranty on their work, if that is what we desire. Warranties don't come for free, though, unfortunately. I expect the OP would have paid a lot more than £500 at a main dealer.
Nobody can say for certain who or what is at fault without inspecting the car. I struggle to see how it would have been fine for 8k miles if there'd been a problem with the work, and for oil to be leaking from 2 places suggests a common cause (e.g. blocked breathers) not related to the work carried out, but that's just my gut feeling based on your description.
Kevin
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Re: the Original post
Personally I think you should be speaking to Pete direct, and not broadcasting your complaints on the forum.
As you had 3.0 cams fitted thats clearly a modification and not a maintenance related proceedure, so is void of any warranty, whethere fitted by a dealer or not.
and as mentioned, alot can happen within an engine after 8k miles, for all anyone knows youve been giving the car a good hiding (noone puts 3.0 cams in for economy) the whole time.
Im sure Pete would appreciate you keeping this between the two of you from now on, and for others to politely keep out of it.
nuff said.
agreed
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mistakes may or may not have been made, either way the op has still had a massive favour for the money paid it seems to me....
....not the best way to repay that favour perhaps? ....on the face of it anyway.
I'm quite sure even if the problems where rectified at top prices conciderable savings have still been made.
A bit harsh imo.
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When was the leakage noticed? 8K miles is a fair way down the road and, if leakage as bad as OP says, would be noticed very quickly.
8k miles equates to 3 oil changes if the advice on here is taken up. If left to run that 8k miles on existing oil and short journeys etc then breathers can and do get blocked causing overpressure of the heads etc, particularly if the engine has done a fair few miles and there is substantial blowby.
Would add that if fitting 3 litre cams at the same time then, if it were me, I would be releasing those extra horses whenever possible. If thats not done with care (working a cold engine hard etc) then your problems can be self inficted to a greater extent.
8k miles and several months is, to my personal mind, outwith any 'warranty' on a mates rates basis. As others have said, if you want a 12 month unlimited warranty, go main dealer and pay the rate.
All said and done, I would counsel that OP waits for a response from EP before getting their dander up, as we say up this way. OP has chosen to go public and the OOF public only has one side of the matter. Too many years of listening to both sides of a story have educated me to the fact that the truth lies somewhere between both....
I suggest that public conjecture and lynch mob type replies are worthless without a response from EP.
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Perhaps then I expect to much.I do not drive my car hard input the cams in as the covers were being done.if I am being harsh then so I apologise,I expected a bit more then the service I got,maybe my fault.I have tried as said to sort it with pete but as far I can tell he wasn't interested.again perhaps I'm wrong.if so I take what's coming.I posted it here invade others had had similar.
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its the first ive heard of and the first time ive been.but it should be said i think!maybe it was a bad week for him or whatever,i can only go on what he has said and whats happened,he might pm me or whatever,but ive gave him a week to reply!
i dont think you have been very fair to Pete doing this when its took you 7 months to inform him of the problem and only waited a week for a response from him
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never expect warranty from a mobile mechanic..
or backstreet garages.. anyway they do the work for few bucks..
if you want warranty both on parts and work done, you know where the services are ..
I'm also facing a similiar dilemma for some jobs here, even the service prices less than half there..
as we all know cambelt changes, engine rebuilds are risky jobs which can end up with another rebuild.. for that reason I prefer services..and here is my experience , the last time I changed the cambelt , the set was faulty.. :(
which one mechanic friend (has a shop and can already change but prefer not to) and I opened it after suspicion and see the problem.. and after some debate with service, they accept and changed from warranty.. after the second set, some time later cambelt was again loose, again they solve the problem but this time dont change it (normal)
and after, again become loose >:(
so even service warranty wont work properly as expected..
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I've never used EP however he appears to have an excellent reputation in these pages. I've used one of the other forum mechanics however, and my warranty was to watch everything he did - which he invited me to do - and seeing the precision and care that he took over my car, torquing every single nut and double checking as he went along, I was happy in the knowledge that it something did go wrong a few months down the line, it would not be down to his endeavours :y
As the others say, if you want the full warranty, you need to be paying Mr. Dealer :y
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I don't want to get into the middle of this, so this is more of an intervention!
Elite Pete is very competant but is very busy at the moment, as am I and I'd stake my reputation alongside Petes! Just bring it to me and I'll help you sort it on Pete's behalf. No cost at all to you! :y
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I don't want to get into the middle of this, so this is more of an intervention!
Elite Pete is very competant but is very busy at the moment, as am I and I'd stake my reputation alongside Petes! Just bring it to me and I'll help you sort it on Pete's behalf. No cost at all to you! :y
Bloody hell Lee, that is above & beyond the call of duty mate..Total Respect! :y
Btw mate, I may need a new kidney very shortly & I was wondering.... ;D ;)
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I have seen Pete's work myself, and I was surprised how much care he puts in!
I would trust Pete on my car any day, and will still recommend him to others.
I would honestly say that you were either:
A) Very Very Unlucky
Or
B) Something else is possibly wrong with the engine (ie blocked breathers / major blowby etc)
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I don't want to get into the middle of this, so this is more of an intervention!
Elite Pete is very competant but is very busy at the moment, as am I and I'd stake my reputation alongside Petes! Just bring it to me and I'll help you sort it on Pete's behalf. No cost at all to you! :y
Bloody hell Lee, that is above & beyond the call of duty mate..Total Respect! :y
Btw mate, I may need a new kidney very shortly & I was wondering.... ;D ;)
And if you have a spare lung knocking around please give me a thought..... :D :D :D
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I don't want to get into the middle of this, so this is more of an intervention!
Elite Pete is very competant but is very busy at the moment, as am I and I'd stake my reputation alongside Petes! Just bring it to me and I'll help you sort it on Pete's behalf. No cost at all to you! :y
That is what you call loyalty and commitment! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
A great gesture Welung that hopefully will bring this all to an end! Well done, I am very impressed :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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It does sound like Mr ICEMAN did try to contact Elite Pete, and felt the response wasn't ideal. It sounds like another OOFer has looked at it, and noticed some problems, as yet ascertained whether with original work, or unrelated.
So, IMHO, he shouldn't be slated for starting this thread (assuming he gave EP time to respond, and understood he may have other priorities - it was done at a better price than any business could have).
I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
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Best will in the world things don't always go to plan, as we discovered fitting LPG to your mv6, and Mark discovered fitting Jimbobs cam belt.... ....and numerous other instances that I can't remember as usual.
Pete has helped the OP enormously it seems to me, and ok there may be a couple of things need correcting, a few gremlins quite possibly.
I think if it was me I would post up asking help to fix those rather than take the view that somebody allegedly got shafted when they most clearly did not.....but its easy being wise after the event and not personally involved, I would be concerned if it was my car true enough.
Raises interesting points generally though when working on other peoples cars. Can turn in to a mine field even if you are "soooo careful". :-?
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Best will in the world things don't always go to plan, as we discovered fitting LPG to your mv6, and Mark discovered fitting Jimbobs cam belt.... ....and numerous other instances that I can't remember as usual.
Yeah, cowboy, you ain't touching my car again ;D ;D. Joking aside, talk about coincidence - yes the EGR pipe was most likely us, but the followers....
In jimbobs case, I believe that was an early life part failure, though it caused significant damage.
But, yes, things happen that cannot be predicted.
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Best will in the world things don't always go to plan, as we discovered fitting LPG to your mv6, and Mark discovered fitting Jimbobs cam belt.... ....and numerous other instances that I can't remember as usual.
Yeah, cowboy, you ain't touching my car again ;D ;D. Joking aside, talk about coincidence - yes the EGR pipe was most likely us, but the followers....
In jimbobs case, I believe that was an early life part failure, though it caused significant damage.
But, yes, things happen that cannot be predicted.
Never touched it. ;D. ;)
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It does sound like Mr ICEMAN did try to contact Elite Pete, and felt the response wasn't ideal. It sounds like another OOFer has looked at it, and noticed some problems, as yet ascertained whether with original work, or unrelated.
So, IMHO, he shouldn't be slated for starting this thread (assuming he gave EP time to respond, and understood he may have other priorities - it was done at a better price than any business could have).
I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
tb would it be possible to have a sticky somewhere with a list of members that offer services what they do and area covered this would certainly help us newer members if we need work done if this already exists ignore and i will carry on being a div :y
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I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
I think that is a fine statement - balanced and sensible. :y
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We all make mistakes ;),and correct me if im wrong,but a tooth on a timing belt can slip anytime :y
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We all make mistakes ;),and correct me if im wrong,but a tooth on a timing belt can slip anytime :y
Not if it's been fitted and tensioned correctly. Unless the tensioners on the way out
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It does sound like Mr ICEMAN did try to contact Elite Pete, and felt the response wasn't ideal. It sounds like another OOFer has looked at it, and noticed some problems, as yet ascertained whether with original work, or unrelated.
So, IMHO, he shouldn't be slated for starting this thread (assuming he gave EP time to respond, and understood he may have other priorities - it was done at a better price than any business could have).
I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
tb would it be possible to have a sticky somewhere with a list of members that offer services what they do and area covered this would certainly help us newer members if we need work done if this already exists ignore and i will carry on being a div :y
I personally think that could be a minefield
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It does sound like Mr ICEMAN did try to contact Elite Pete, and felt the response wasn't ideal. It sounds like another OOFer has looked at it, and noticed some problems, as yet ascertained whether with original work, or unrelated.
So, IMHO, he shouldn't be slated for starting this thread (assuming he gave EP time to respond, and understood he may have other priorities - it was done at a better price than any business could have).
I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
tb would it be possible to have a sticky somewhere with a list of members that offer services what they do and area covered this would certainly help us newer members if we need work done if this already exists ignore and i will carry on being a div :y
I personally think that could be a minefield
you aint kidding!! and dont forget theis is a public forum, the tax man does watch! its far better to do any jobs as mates rather than advertise mechanical services!! :y
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Pete is a very busy chap at the moment, as everyone has said.
I've never had any work done by him on my cars, but have met him a couple of times and found him to be a very helpful & nice bloke.
He did bring down to me some bits for my mig a few days ago, he didn't really have time to with being so busy, but as I couldn't get up to him to collect them and there wasn't time to organise an alternative, he give up his time to bring the parts down to me, despite him probably not wanting to with not having much time to personally.
From meeting the chap and hearing of others speak of him, I doubt he's avoiding you on purpose. I'm sure he'll get back to you in time, but you have to be fair for a response time.
Your comments were a fair enough point to make in general, but perhaps you should of left the person’s name out of the thread until you had given them a fair enough time to get back to you. And a way of getting the problem resolved before posting the name, which may have caused a bit of ill feeling.
Understandably you aren't very happy with the issues that you're having, but perhaps on hindsight it is best to ask others on here what could be the problem and if anyone could suggest a reason for it happening, or some help to fix it.
Unfortunately you can have over a 1000 good feedback reports, but it can take just one bad one to wreck all the hard work someone puts in to try and gain a good reputation.
After the amount of comments having been made up to now, I think it would only be fair for people to wait and see what Pete reply to this would be?.
As when he comes across this, I'm sure he'll be surprised and a little taken back that he now feels that he has to reply to this publicly in order to resolve what should have initially been a private issue between two people on here.
Hopefully this will have a happy ending for both parties and no lasting bad feelings?.
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Pete is a very busy chap at the moment, as everyone has said.
I've never had any work done by him on my cars, but have met him a couple of times and found him to be a very helpful & nice bloke.
He did bring down to me some bits for my mig a few days ago, he didn't really have time to with being so busy, but as I couldn't get up to him to collect them and there wasn't time to organise an alternative, he give up his time to bring the parts down to me, despite him probably not wanting to with not having much time to personally.
From meeting the chap and hearing of others speak of him, I doubt he's avoiding you on purpose. I'm sure he'll get back to you in time, but you have to be fair for a response time.
Your comments were a fair enough point to make in general, but perhaps you should of left the person’s name out of the thread until you had given them a fair enough time to get back to you. And a way of getting the problem resolved before posting the name, which may have caused a bit of ill feeling.
Understandably you aren't very happy with the issues that you're having, but perhaps on hindsight it is best to ask others on here what could be the problem and if anyone could suggest a reason for it happening, or some help to fix it.
Unfortunately you can have over a 1000 good feedback reports, but it can take just one bad one to wreck all the hard work someone puts in to try and gain a good reputation.
After the amount of comments having been made up to now, I think it would only be fair for people to wait and see what Pete reply to this would be?.
As when he comes across this, I'm sure he'll be surprised and a little taken back that he now feels that he has to reply to this publicly in order to resolve what should have initially been a private issue between two people on here.
Hopefully this will have a happy ending for both parties and no lasting bad feelings?.
well said :y
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Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned Peres name.I was very happy with his work and tbh I like the guy.just had bad service this time,I did get problem sorted out just hoped Peter would be a little more helpfull.as said I do not want to ruin his reputation,simply say I wasn't happy and has it happened to others.I am not a nasty person and don't wish to give Peter cause to feel hurt.simply put I would have expected him,given his rep to have said bring it up and I'll at least look and arrange to sort it in the future.but I fealt he was just not interested.if I'm wrong I put my tail between my legs and walk away.Im not expecting a garauntee for the work just for the work to last longer than it did,I don't think that's too much to ask!
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Think this needs to be put on the back boiler now and await a response from Pete either publicly or through the PM system :-X
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please can an admin just lock this, + copy the original post to pete. a public explaination is not required, so pointless to add more replies.
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please can an admin just lock this, + copy the original post to pete. a public explaination is not required, so pointless to add more replies.
Admins are watching this thread very closely. We feel that it is worth keeping open, not least so EP can respond if he wants to publically (he may decide to do so privately).
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please can an admin just lock this, + copy the original post to pete. a public explaination is not required, so pointless to add more replies.
no should be allowed to run else it will look like admin are takeing sides.
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As already said, thread is being closely monitored by the Admin team.
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think we are all missing some thing here...after several month and 8000 miles the op is complaining...8000 miles is a lot.. :y
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As already said, thread is being closely monitored by the Admin team.
Does this mean we can do what we want in other parts of the forum ;D ;D ::) :y
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please can an admin just lock this, + copy the original post to pete. a public explaination is not required, so pointless to add more replies.
Why is it pointless to add more replies? I think you owe us a public explanation.
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As already said, thread is being closely monitored by the Admin team.
Does this mean we can do what we want in other parts of the forum ;D ;D ::) :y
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You've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky?
Well do ya Punk?! ;D ;D ;)
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It does sound like Mr ICEMAN did try to contact Elite Pete, and felt the response wasn't ideal. It sounds like another OOFer has looked at it, and noticed some problems, as yet ascertained whether with original work, or unrelated.
So, IMHO, he shouldn't be slated for starting this thread (assuming he gave EP time to respond, and understood he may have other priorities - it was done at a better price than any business could have).
I don't think anyone should be discouraged from talking about poor workmanship, mistakes etc - nobody is perfect, and occasionally something does go wrong.
Certainly 3 of the people on here who do Omega work - Darth Loo-knee, Elite Pete and Welung666 do seem to have a good reputation. I have not seen Elite Pete's or Welung666's work so cannot personally comment, and only go by the feedback we see about it. So I am equally interested in people's experience, good or bad, of those members, as they do use the forum as a free marketting tool. I will include car traders, such as JoshWyatt in that. I should include myself, as I obviously sell tech2 work.
tb would it be possible to have a sticky somewhere with a list of members that offer services what they do and area covered this would certainly help us newer members if we need work done if this already exists ignore and i will carry on being a div :y
I personally think that could be a minefield
you aint kidding!! and dont forget theis is a public forum, the tax man does watch! its far better to do any jobs as mates rather than advertise mechanical services!! :y
yes so true didnt think of the bigger picture :y
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Pete is busy at the moment and with the time of year again as everyone says 'who isn't?
Pete fitted a new cambelt kit on the 13th October (approx 900 miles ago) and the belt has been squeaking. I have kept in contact with him and he has advised me to cover some more miles in it as sometimes the new film on the belt can squeak when fitted. 2 months later and 900 miles its still squeaking so i called pete again to advise him of this and with no hesitation he has offered to come out and take a look for me after christmas which is great. if the problem sorts itself then ill let him know but the offer to travel to me and the value of his time is greatly appreciated.
This is why i have advised him of future work i want doing in the new year.
Pete is busy at present and god knows i am. It did take me a few attempts to get in touch but so what?
He called me back, had a good catch up and sorted the issue for a few weeks time.
Working with each other in these instances is key imho.
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Mr Ice Man, i'm sorry you feel dissapointed with my work, this is the first bit of criticism i've received after doing many repairs for many happy forum members. I'm a little dissapointed that you say I haven't taken responsibility. You sent me a pm on the Saturday to say you think your camcover gaskets are leaking and could I do your crankshaft oil seal to which I replied, I am busy for the next week and I dont have the tool to lock the crank but I will ask a member of the forum if I could loan theres, I did also put that if I had fitted the cam cover gasket incorrectly they would have leaked straight away. The next PM I had off you said you had someone to look at on the Thursday of that week and that was the last I heard until I received a number of phone calls on Saturday night to say you posted this thread, unfortunately, i've been away until this morning so I haven't been able to reply until now. I would like to thank the people who called on Saturday to warn me of this thread and those that have posted positively in there responses :-*
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At last, the other side of the story :y
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At last, the other side of the story :y
does put somewhat of a different light on the story doesnt it.
imho this shouldnt have been put public but sorted with peter in private.
keep up the good work pete. ;) :y
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At last, the other side of the story :y
does put somewhat of a different light on the story doesnt it.
imho this shouldnt have been put public but sorted with peter in private.
keep up the good work pete. ;) :y
agreed and now maybe this matter can be put to bed :y
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thankyou for a reply pete.as i said via pm,this was not started to say that i was not dissapointed with petes origanal work,just what has happend since that.it might be my fault the car has broken,it might be petes.i simply wanted to say that i would have thought he and others would say please bring it back,ill look and if its me ill put right.that is what i would do regardless of its 50p or £5000.i did not and do not expect a garauntee as with a dealer.perhaps in hindsight i should not have made this public,but stating dissapointment in somones response should be allowed!
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Just read most of this and find it very sad that someone has felt the need to " air their dirty washing" in a public place........ a favour was done at a resonable price compaired to what a dealer would charge ( but it appears that you expected ther same sort of service you would get from them.... sorry it doesnt work that way)
We all have problems with our cars and some us dont have a clue where to start hence why we come on here for the info .... so please dont spoil it for others as the knowlegdeable ones could turn around and say f*** it let em pay a dealer..... So in short keep ya negative comments to yourselfs and look it up in the manuals and do it yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im very greatful for all the info Ive picked up from here eiither from the boards or via PMS.
Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
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Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
I don't have my Berkshire to English dictionary with me, could someone translate for me? ;D ;D ;D
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Just read most of this and find it very sad that someone has felt the need to " air their dirty washing" in a public place........ a favour was done at a resonable price compaired to what a dealer would charge ( but it appears that you expected ther same sort of service you would get from them.... sorry it doesnt work that way)
We all have problems with our cars and some us dont have a clue where to start hence why we come on here for the info .... so please dont spoil it for others as the knowlegdeable ones could turn around and say f*** it let em pay a dealer..... So in short keep ya negative comments to yourselfs and look it up in the manuals and do it yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im very greatful for all the info Ive picked up from here eiither from the boards or via PMS.
Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
IM NOT AFTER A DEALER STANDARD!!!SIMPLY THOUGHT PETE WOULD BE MORE HAPPY TO HELP!LONG AND SHORT OF IT.
ive not been negatative about pete simply that he didnt want to know and look at the work not to fix it for free as would happily have paid,as i did!thats not to much ask.people have taken this all the wrong way!i was dissapointed and that was it.
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Just read most of this and find it very sad that someone has felt the need to " air their dirty washing" in a public place........ a favour was done at a resonable price compaired to what a dealer would charge ( but it appears that you expected ther same sort of service you would get from them.... sorry it doesnt work that way)
We all have problems with our cars and some us dont have a clue where to start hence why we come on here for the info .... so please dont spoil it for others as the knowlegdeable ones could turn around and say f*** it let em pay a dealer..... So in short keep ya negative comments to yourselfs and look it up in the manuals and do it yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im very greatful for all the info Ive picked up from here eiither from the boards or via PMS.
Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
IM NOT AFTER A DEALER STANDARD!!!SIMPLY THOUGHT PETE WOULD BE MORE HAPPY TO HELP!LONG AND SHORT OF IT.
ive not been negatative about pete simply that he didnt want to know and look at the work not to fix it for free as would happily have paid,as i did!thats not to much ask.people have taken this all the wrong way!i was dissapointed and that was it.
Pete is one of the most helpful members on the forum. Being busy does not mean he is not taking an interest. Pete would want to allow enough time to see you and look at the problem properly with the correct tools and if that meant waiting a week then so be it.
Its worth the wait and would have saved you money.
we all want problems sorted right now as they are annoying but it doesnt always work that way. I reckon the fact he couldnt do it when you wanted it done was the real issue.
Not having a go in anyway as were all in to our omegas but a bit of paitence may have lead to this thread never being started. :)
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Perhaps now would be a good time to lock the thread, now that Pete has put his response.
As it sounds like this could get into a slanging match from those not directly involved if not careful ::) ::) , which could be more messy than the orignal post & response !!!!!! :o :o
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Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
I don't have my Berkshire to English dictionary with me, could someone translate for me? ;D ;D ;D
opps :-[ Nice but there again you brummies are thick aint ya ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Notice touch aswell Welung :y :y :y
I don't have my Berkshire to English dictionary with me, could someone translate for me? ;D ;D ;D
opps :-[ Nice but there again you brummies are thick aint ya ;D ;D ;D ;D
I aye no Brummie!!!!!!!!! I'm Black Country matey, don't be tarring me with that brush ;) ;D ;D ;D
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It's a shame when things like this happen between members & i hope Ice man & Pete manage to smooth things over. Pete has been here pretty much since the word go & i've been around nearly as long so seen & been involved in a few spats but still love the forum & those on here.
Suffice to say i hope you stick around Ice Man & become as "seasoned" as many of us & one day you & Pete can blow the froth off a couple of beers & shake hands & an OOFMEET, somewhere sometime. Guy. :y
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Goo on ar kid yo tell em. ;D ;D
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Perhaps now would be a good time to lock the thread, now that Pete has put his response.
As it sounds like this could get into a slanging match from those not directly involved if not careful ::) ::) , which could be more messy than the orignal post & response !!!!!! :o :o
I agree, if Pete and ice man want to talk it's available via pm
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Goo on ar kid yo tell em. ;D ;D
I used to have a 51 plate Saxo VTR many years ago, stuck to the road like **** to a blanket. How do these youngsters manage to crash them???? ::)
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Simon (Mr Ice Man) is quite within his rights to say if he's unhappy, after all there are alot of people who say when they are happy with work and it should be the same if they are unhappy, when I said I was busy last week maybe I should have added that I could look at it this week and maybe Simon should have sent a pm but its water under the bridge now and a lesson learnt. ;)
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And on that final note, I think its time to close.