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Title: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: CateraMV6 on 11 December 2010, 04:00:30
Hey fellas... I come here for a quick advise...

The Neon is in the shop getting a new gearbox but in mean time we got to get the RAV4 read for winter.

With that comes the question... which winter tire is the best.


I am looking at a price range of 70-80$/tire

I can purchase the following...

NOKIAN NORDMAN 4
(http://www.bythjul.com/images/products/nokian_hakkapeliitta5__.jpg)


FIRESTONE WINTERFORCE
(http://testweb.townfair.com/images/tires/firestone/winterforce_t.jpg)


HANKOOK IPIKE 409
(http://www.americastire.com/product/tires/hanss3.ang.jpg)
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: albitz on 11 December 2010, 06:54:55
I have just been watching BBC news in astonishment, as they have been reporting on the subject of winter tyres.
British insurance companies have been responding to motorists fitting winter tyres by charging them up to 20% extra, as they consider this to be a modification. Some companies have even been refusing cover completely, as they dont cover modified cars. :o :o :o
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 December 2010, 08:55:27
 :) :) :) :y


#1 with studs , if you will be driving on icy hills definitely no competitor will be around.. with the drawback of them being really noisy (and a feeling of disturbance on steering) on dry and wet but much much better than any kind of chain..

#2, definitely ice, snow tire..I would buy that.. but will limit your speed and handling on dry/wet roads .. imo no need for more than 60-70 mph in winter..however also you can use a combination of #2 at the rear (for omega) and #3 on the front ..

#3 snow performance tire (can be also used for ice but dont expect performance like #1 and #2) and can be used for higher speeds even in dry/wet

I must note all of these comments depends on the assumption that all of tires have the same compound quality ..

one last thing to add: tires especially designed for ice have very soft compounds ..

try a simple test.. take the tires outside one by one, push from up with all your weight and try turn them left right which turns harder is the best for winter.. (studded being exception)

ps: a combination of #1 at the rear and #3 also can be considered..so studs wont effect steering..

pps: now I see, if those tires are for rav 4 all 4 tires must be equal..
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 December 2010, 08:57:55
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I have just been watching BBC news in astonishment, as they have been reporting on the subject of winter tyres.
British insurance companies have been responding to motorists fitting winter tyres by charging them up to 20% extra, as they consider this to be a modification. Some companies have even been refusing cover completely, as they dont cover modified cars. :o :o :o


 :o :o :o :o :o :-?

modified cars..  :-?

did they eat their brains in the breakfast ;D ;D
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: Psychoca on 11 December 2010, 10:00:29
The Insurance "deal" link...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11969958
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 December 2010, 10:14:24
soon some clever minds will arrange some regulations and correct the situtation imo..
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: CateraMV6 on 16 December 2010, 10:51:01
Decided to go with the Nokians... not a bad purchase.

Tires sat outside at temps around 10deg F... so the rubber was still nice n soft.

Glad I went with them.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1176.snc4/154831_529443010339_53800591_31124673_4356839_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs393.ash2/67138_529443075209_53800591_31124674_6074754_n.jpg)
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 December 2010, 18:15:30
 :y :y

remember they can be studded later if not too much wear on them! (if become necessary)
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 16 December 2010, 18:23:16
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Decided to go with the Nokians... not a bad purchase.

Tires sat outside at temps around 10deg F... so the rubber was still nice n soft.

Glad I went with them.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1176.snc4/154831_529443010339_53800591_31124673_4356839_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs393.ash2/67138_529443075209_53800591_31124674_6074754_n.jpg

They certainly look the business Cat. :y
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: Boditza on 16 December 2010, 18:27:54
in teh future try using this site and see the tests done by users around the world
www.tyretest.com
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: aaronjb on 16 December 2010, 18:45:16
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soon some clever minds will arrange some regulations and correct the situtation imo..

Highly unlikely in this country, cem - the insurance companies aren't known for sensible policies.. nor is the government! ;)
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 December 2010, 18:48:18
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soon some clever minds will arrange some regulations and correct the situtation imo..

Highly unlikely in this country, cem - the insurance companies aren't known for sensible policies.. nor is the government! ;)

most of the time we give Brits as good examples.. now this makes us  liars ;D
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: aaronjb on 16 December 2010, 19:21:06
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soon some clever minds will arrange some regulations and correct the situtation imo..

Highly unlikely in this country, cem - the insurance companies aren't known for sensible policies.. nor is the government! ;)

most of the time we give Brits as good examples.. now this makes us  liars ;D
;D ;D

Actually, reading that link, the ABI (Association of British Insurers) have turned around and told the insurance companies to stop being so ruddy stupid.. so maybe there is some sense out there, after all ;)

Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 December 2010, 20:05:16
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soon some clever minds will arrange some regulations and correct the situtation imo..

Highly unlikely in this country, cem - the insurance companies aren't known for sensible policies.. nor is the government! ;)

most of the time we give Brits as good examples.. now this makes us  liars ;D
;D ;D

Actually, reading that link, the ABI (Association of British Insurers) have turned around and told the insurance companies to stop being so ruddy stupid.. so maybe there is some sense out there, after all ;)


without any doubt , this mistake will be corrected..

but trust me , if it was here , looong years we had to wait ;D
Title: Re: WINTER Tires? NOKIAN... vs the rest?
Post by: Vamps on 20 December 2010, 01:07:00
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Hey fellas... I come here for a quick advise...

The Neon is in the shop getting a new gearbox but in mean time we got to get the RAV4 read for winter.

With that comes the question... which winter tire is the best.


I am looking at a price range of 70-80$/tire

I can purchase the following...

NOKIAN NORDMAN 4
(http://www.bythjul.com/images/products/nokian_hakkapeliitta5__.jpg)


FIRESTONE WINTERFORCE
(http://testweb.townfair.com/images/tires/firestone/winterforce_t.jpg)


HANKOOK IPIKE 409
(http://www.americastire.com/product/tires/hanss3.ang.jpg)

I like number 1 with the studded tyres..... :y  I has some fitted to a Ford Escort, fwd, 1982 ish, could spin the wheels and make sparks.... ::) Apparently illegal though.... :-/ :-/