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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: johnmjess on 19 December 2010, 00:22:27
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I have the Omega elite estate for the dogs but I am looking for a Magenta 4x4 Cosworth as a weekend thing.
I have spent 8 mths and ££££ travelling round the country looking for a decent car. Even got a train to Exeter for an Ebay auction with 9 hrs to go, just to find a pile of crap at the end of the rainbow. So I am looking for ideas for my next car. Lotus carlton is way beyond my means so any suggestions may help and even better if you have a car in mind.
Regards
John
Budget is flexible 5k-8k
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mitsubishi legnum vr4?
toyota aristo/lexus gs430?
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im a bit biased, but for that money if your after a 4x4 turbo get an impreza,not just anyone, get an sti type r, totally different animal from any other impreza, 1260kgs, 320bhp (standard) 0-60 in 4.2 and controlable centre diff allowing you to have 50/50 to 25/75 front rear split on the power.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s285/timbrentnall/IMG_5399.jpg)
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i bought mine, an import (all type r's are imports), i was 1st uk owner, 22k on the clock, for 5K
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Dont even think about buying a Sierra Cosworth unless you have somewhere secure to store it, lost count on the amount of attempts theve tried to get mine.
>:(
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Intergrale?
UR Quattro?
E30 M3?
A mint 205 / 309 GTI?
A Caterham?
TVR Chimaera?
Old Manta?
Holden Commodore?
Old M5?
Turbo'd MX5?
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http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C153129/
If it was a few years older it'd be in my garage .
( € 48 per annum road tax on 30 year old + cars in Ireland )
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Intergrale?
you are Quattro?
E30 M3?
A mint 205 / 309 GTI?
A Caterham?
TVR Chimaera?
Old Manta?
Holden Commodore?
Old M5?
Turbo'd MX5?
If I were buying a weekend toy now, I'd go for one of those (or a turbo'd MR2 Roadster, but then I am biased!) - it's nice to have a big barge (Omega) for day to day, and a go-kart for the weekends, you get the best of both worlds.
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I would agree on the Imprezza (or Evo) idea. Much more capable (ultimately) than a Cossie, and a lot less dosh I would imagine. Is it for track days or similar ? Tbh i question the point of having a really high performance car in todays UK for road use only. :-/
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I would agree on the Imprezza (or Evo) idea. Much more capable (ultimately) than a Cossie, and a lot less dosh I would imagine. Is it for track days or similar ? Tbh i question the point of having a really high performance car in todays UK for road use only. :-/
depends where you live !
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how about Audi S4 Avant - best of both worlds there.....
Oddly enought, I've just got a 4x4 Sierra in Magenta for the missus to use over the winter. Not a Cosworth tho. - it a 2.0 Estate
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I would agree on the Imprezza (or Evo) idea. Much more capable (ultimately) than a Cossie, and a lot less dosh I would imagine. Is it for track days or similar ? Tbh i question the point of having a really high performance car in todays UK for road use only. :-/
depends where you live !
Plenty of space to play safely out here in the Peaks ;D
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V6 Mitsubishi Gallant, might be front wheel drive, but comfortable, very fast and ultra reliable..... :D :D :D
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Intergrale?
you are Quattro?
E30 M3?
A mint 205 / 309 GTI?
A Caterham?
TVR Chimaera?
Old Manta?
Holden Commodore?
Old M5?
Turbo'd MX5?
I have difficulty seeing how you can put the 205/309 GTi into a similar class as the Cossie... There is such a strong likelihood that they have been hammered by a previous owner considering the image that they maintained during the 90's...
My money would be on a Audi GT Quattro... A very reasonable and robust car, which has both the performance and pedigree to sit suitable alongside the likes of the Cosworth... The Integrale would be my 2nd choice, but, the chances of finding a good one in this country for that money is poor...
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GSI3000 24v
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V6 Mitsubishi Gallant, might be front wheel drive, but comfortable, very fast and ultra reliable..... :D :D :D
or a galant vr4,twin turbo and 4wd(I think)
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With that sort of budget the world is your lobster. Lots of interesting Eighties big-iron stuff like the ur quattro, 635, XJ-S, SL, 928, Monza, Esprit, or Vitesse. Then there's the Firenza, the RS2000, the Sunbeam Lotus, Granada Coupe, XJ6-C, Royale, Stag, loads of good examples that won't lose you money in the long run.
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Cosworth all day long for me, sold mine about 3 years ago to a specialist in Guernsey. Mine was a 1993 L plate, in radiant red, a very rare colour. There are still good ones about, you just have to keep trying, have your tried passionford.com or the rsoc site? Everyone was asking me about it every time i went to the petrol station or just going tesco, true classic..
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E36 M3 ftw!
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Don't know the price there but I would buy an old 6 series bmw (635 csi) in mint condition if I wanted something good and classical.
Cosworth is a great car (my brother in law had one) but I really don't like the four door version at all. Five door hatchback was better looking in my opinion
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on egay at moment 11 hours left
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SAPPHIRE-RS-COSWORTH-/300505672229?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item45f788aa25
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bit pricey but WOWWWW
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-RS500-COSWORTH-ONLY-34-800-MILES-/280601850229?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item41552c7175
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500bhp capable of more ;D ;D ;D
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Don't know the price there but I would buy an old 6 series bmw (635 csi) in mint condition if I wanted something good and classical.
Cosworth is a great car (my brother in law had one) but I really don't like the four door version at all. Five door hatchback was better looking in my opinion
Pedant alert, Didn't make a 5 door only 3 or 5
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I have difficulty seeing how you can put the 205/309 GTi into a similar class as the Cossie... There is such a strong likelihood that they have been hammered by a previous owner considering the image that they maintained during the 90's...
Seriously?
Do you think with the image the Cosworth had in the 90's they were all driven by Miss Daisy??
I would say there is as much chance of finding decent Cosworth as there is of finding a decent 1.9 205/ 309!
If you are looking down the 'grey import' route then there is always the Lexus Altezza (beefed up IS200)
For £8k you are getting into R32 range
How about a supercharged Jaguar?
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Pedant alert, Didn't make a 5 door only 3 or 5
Oh the irony!!!!
;D
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Pedant alert, Didn't make a 5 door only 3 or 5
::) ::) ::)
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I have difficulty seeing how you can put the 205/309 GTi into a similar class as the Cossie... There is such a strong likelihood that they have been hammered by a previous owner considering the image that they maintained during the 90's...
Seriously?
Do you think with the image the Cosworth had in the 90's they were all driven by Miss Daisy??
I would say there is as much chance of finding decent Cosworth as there is of finding a decent 1.9 205/ 309!
If you are looking down the 'grey import' route then there is always the Lexus Altezza (beefed up IS200)
For £8k you are getting into R32 range
How about a supercharged Jaguar?
The difference between the Cossie and the GTi was the type of driver they attracted. The GTi was more affordable and much lower insurance premiums and appeared to have a much younger age group attracted to them. They Cossie on the otherhand was much more expensive and had a higher insurance premium (I remember a very old Top Gear where Clarkson said his quote for an Escort Cosworth was £20,000), which led to an older age group driving them.
With the Cosworth engine being so much more powerful than any of the Hot Hatch engines of the time, they didn't tend to be driven constantly on the limit unlike many of the 205's or 309's... Similarly IMO the Cossie would have been looked after much better than the 205/309...
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Cheers for all the suggestions guys.
Looked at a minter 1998 944 Turbo S with shit loads of history and bills today that may well be finding it's way to my garage shortly. I have arranged to go back over to look at it again when the roads thaw out and I can take it for a blast. The guy has had the car for 20yrs but his hip does not allow him to use a manual anymore. It's a bit on the steep side 8k but I might get it for low 7's if I try.
Will keep you all posted.
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I have difficulty seeing how you can put the 205/309 GTi into a similar class as the Cossie... There is such a strong likelihood that they have been hammered by a previous owner considering the image that they maintained during the 90's...
Seriously?
Do you think with the image the Cosworth had in the 90's they were all driven by Miss Daisy??
I would say there is as much chance of finding decent Cosworth as there is of finding a decent 1.9 205/ 309!
If you are looking down the 'grey import' route then there is always the Lexus Altezza (beefed up IS200)
For £8k you are getting into R32 range
How about a supercharged Jaguar?
The difference between the Cossie and the GTi was the type of driver they attracted. The GTi was more affordable and much lower insurance premiums and appeared to have a much younger age group attracted to them. They Cossie on the otherhand was much more expensive and had a higher insurance premium (I remember a very old Top Gear where Clarkson said his quote for an Escort Cosworth was £20,000), which led to an older age group driving them.
With the Cosworth engine being so much more powerful than any of the Hot Hatch engines of the time, they didn't tend to be driven constantly on the limit unlike many of the 205's or 309's... Similarly IMO the Cossie would have been looked after much better than the 205/309...
I've been lucky enough to have driven litterally 100's of different cars over the years. The 309GTI still ranks as one of my all time favourites, (owned two of them, plus a 1.6 205GTI).
In all seriousness, you'd need to be strapped into a Caterham to find a better handling car than a 205 / 309GTI. They really, really are that dam good.
And like all of the cars that I mentioned on the above post of mine, there are generally only tow types of cars left. The absolute minters, or the sheds.
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I have difficulty seeing how you can put the 205/309 GTi into a similar class as the Cossie... There is such a strong likelihood that they have been hammered by a previous owner considering the image that they maintained during the 90's...
Seriously?
Do you think with the image the Cosworth had in the 90's they were all driven by Miss Daisy??
I would say there is as much chance of finding decent Cosworth as there is of finding a decent 1.9 205/ 309!
If you are looking down the 'grey import' route then there is always the Lexus Altezza (beefed up IS200)
For £8k you are getting into R32 range
How about a supercharged Jaguar?
The difference between the Cossie and the GTi was the type of driver they attracted. The GTi was more affordable and much lower insurance premiums and appeared to have a much younger age group attracted to them. They Cossie on the otherhand was much more expensive and had a higher insurance premium (I remember a very old Top Gear where Clarkson said his quote for an Escort Cosworth was £20,000), which led to an older age group driving them.
With the Cosworth engine being so much more powerful than any of the Hot Hatch engines of the time, they didn't tend to be driven constantly on the limit unlike many of the 205's or 309's... Similarly IMO the Cossie would have been looked after much better than the 205/309...
I've been lucky enough to have driven litterally 100's of different cars over the years. The 309GTI still ranks as one of my all time favourites, (owned two of them, plus a 1.6 205GTI).
In all seriousness, you'd need to be strapped into a Caterham to find a better handling car than a 205 / 309GTI. They really, really are that dam good.
And like all of the cars that I mentioned on the above post of mine, there are generally only tow types of cars left. The absolute minters, or the sheds.