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Title: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: bestie26 on 26 January 2011, 12:01:33
omega booked in for mot sat morn not due until middle march but i thought id get it in early as we have lots of birthdays wedding anniversary ect feb/march
checked over the car today and identified the rattle ive had for last week or so from the exhaust, thinking a new rubber/clamp may be needed.......NO ! its the cat that has collapsed, just what i need £250 ish for replacement as its got 2 cats on the section of pipe , well unfortunatly iam not prepared to put that much money into it as its costing too much to run with the miles i do 400 a week and i was thinking of chopping it in for a dirty diesel anyway..
the two choices i have at the mo are ebay spares or repair or (dare i say it) the scrap yard ! scrap doing well at the min and ive had enough of it now :( the car itself is clean and tidy and runs spot on always starts ect i just cant justify spending that amount of money plus anything else it might fail on when ideally i need a diesel anyway so prob ebay first and if no takers ill price up what ill get scrap :'(
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: henryd on 26 January 2011, 12:50:15
someone here may have a s/hand cat,post a wanted ad in the test zone and ask a mod to move it for you.If you try and sell it without a ticket its not going to fetch much
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 January 2011, 12:55:07
Is it the cat internals rattling or just the heat shields?
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 January 2011, 13:10:54
The way I would look at it is, and I have done this with all my big Vauxhall's, that for 'just' £250 you can keep a great car on the road, and how many cars of Omega quality can you buy for £250?

No I would pay the money, maybe taking up the offers of help you are bound to get on here, and remain enjoying your lovely car! :y :y
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: PhilRich on 26 January 2011, 13:46:13
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omega booked in for mot sat morn not due until middle march but i thought id get it in early as we have lots of birthdays wedding anniversary ect feb/march
checked over the car today and identified the rattle ive had for last week or so from the exhaust, thinking a new rubber/clamp may be needed.......NO ! its the cat that has collapsed, just what i need £250 ish for replacement as its got 2 cats on the section of pipe , well unfortunatly iam not prepared to put that much money into it as its costing too much to run with the miles i do 400 a week and i was thinking of chopping it in for a dirty diesel anyway..
the two choices i have at the mo are ebay spares or repair or (dare i say it) the scrap yard ! scrap doing well at the min and ive had enough of it now :( the car itself is clean and tidy and runs spot on always starts ect i just cant justify spending that amount of money plus anything else it might fail on when ideally i need a diesel anyway so prob ebay first and if no takers ill price up what ill get scrap :'(


There's this one? :-/
And don't forget you can offset the cost of the new one by weighing in your old ones :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320396351654&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


This one is cheaper :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-2-09-99-02-01-CATALYTIC-CONVERTER-CAT-/140368506934?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20ae9d7036




This one is cheaper still & good guarantee :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OPEL-OMEGA-2-2i-00-03-Catalytic-Converter-Cat-/200398586763?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ea8afc38b
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Proz on 26 January 2011, 13:47:26
Is yours 2.2 Petrol ??
This is the cat i got when mine went ... i got a local garage to fit it for £30 ...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cat-Catalytic-Converter-Vauxhall-Omega-2-2i-16v-99-/320396351654?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4a991c58a6
just make sure its the one in the image you get .
Is a wee bit cheaper  :y
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: RobG on 26 January 2011, 14:01:13
That one in the link is OK as long as it`s type approved, otherwise it`s illegal from  MY `01>
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Proz on 26 January 2011, 15:13:50
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That one in the link is OK as long as it`s type approved, otherwise it`s illegal from  MY `01>

Not entirely sure what you mean by illegal  :-/.... it does say vehicle specific and NOT universal .
It does have the pre-cat and main cat just the same as the original fitted .
Anyway it fitted mine perfectly and stopped my cat efficiency light  :y
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: RobG on 26 January 2011, 16:38:10
The law changed  August 2009 to make it illegal in the UK to fit a non-type approved catalytic converter to a petrol vehicle registered at any date from 1st March 2001.
The new regulations were introduced with the aim to improve air quality, so replacement catalytic converters must meet the set standards for emissions before they are granted with an approval certificate.
Under the regulations, the replacement catalytic converter has to be marked with the EC Type Approval number, which has to be legible once the converter has been installed on the vehicle. The replacement converter must also be marked with the manufacturers name and/or trademark with information stating which vehicle the approved catalytic converter is compatible with also needs to be supplied.The Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) has been appointed to ensure the regulations are complied to. They carry out market surveillance by making random visits to premises of the manufacturers, distributors and other points of sale including fitting stations.

 


 


 

Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 January 2011, 16:53:10
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The law changed  August 2009 to make it illegal in the UK to fit a non-type approved catalytic converter to a petrol vehicle registered at any date from 1st March 2001.
The new regulations were introduced with the aim to improve air quality, so replacement catalytic converters must meet the set standards for emissions before they are granted with an approval certificate.
Under the regulations, the replacement catalytic converter has to be marked with the EC Type Approval number, which has to be legible once the converter has been installed on the vehicle. The replacement converter must also be marked with the manufacturers name and/or trademark with information stating which vehicle the approved catalytic converter is compatible with also needs to be supplied.The Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) has been appointed to ensure the regulations are complied to. They carry out market surveillance by making random visits to premises of the manufacturers, distributors and other points of sale including fitting stations.

 

More makework for more civil serpents

Who is going to check a car?
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 January 2011, 16:55:06
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The law changed  August 2009 to make it illegal in the UK to fit a non-type approved catalytic converter to a petrol vehicle registered at any date from 1st March 2001.
The new regulations were introduced with the aim to improve air quality, so replacement catalytic converters must meet the set standards for emissions before they are granted with an approval certificate.
Under the regulations, the replacement catalytic converter has to be marked with the EC Type Approval number, which has to be legible once the converter has been installed on the vehicle. The replacement converter must also be marked with the manufacturers name and/or trademark with information stating which vehicle the approved catalytic converter is compatible with also needs to be supplied.The Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) has been appointed to ensure the regulations are complied to. They carry out market surveillance by making random visits to premises of the manufacturers, distributors and other points of sale including fitting stations.

 

More makework for more civil serpents

Who is going to check a car?


..and who is going to admit that the cat was installed AFTER the new legislation came in? ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: RobG on 26 January 2011, 16:58:35
Totally agree Martin. Problem is although you can source non type approved cats, not many suppliers will take the chance & supply you with one. (Suppose a few years added to your car would help) ::)
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: bestie26 on 27 January 2011, 02:47:17
cheers for the links, i havnt totally given up on it yet :y its definatly the cat inards thats collapsed i was under the car today and when tapping the cat it sounds like theres a big stone rattling around inside, its booked in tomorrow for a emissions test if it still goes through this despite the rattling i will re-book the mot just cant see any point doing it until i know it will pass the emissions although i cant (fingers crossed) see it failing on a lot else if anything
iam a bit stuck on replacing the cat as its ploughing more money into when ideally i need a diesel due to mileage i do theres also the crank seal that needs doing so weighing all this up iam thinking it may be better cutting my losses and ebaying it and seeing what i get , it is still moted until middle of march so wont be sold with no mot albeit short
Any ideas on what its worth if it doesnt pass emissions tomorrow, ie selling it needing cat and crank seal doin with a mth and half mot 2001 Y reg 2.2 16v fsh starts and drives very well
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: davethediver on 27 January 2011, 22:43:04
About 300 with no ticket :'(
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: bestie26 on 27 January 2011, 23:03:06
Much to my surprise and the mot testers who did a emissions test this morning,,,,, its passed with flying colours :y its now booked in for tuesday afternoon for a full mot test now i know it will pass the emissions
readingS were .....

FAST IDLE TEST:
DESCRIPTION                 LIMIT                            ACTUAL
Engine speed            2500/3000rpm              manual check
CO:                         max 0.200%                     0.061
HC:                         max 200ppm                        29
LAMBDA                 0.970- 1.030                        1.0001

NATURAL IDLE TEST:
Engine speed:              450-1500rpm             manual check
CO:                        max 0.300%                       0.019%

JUST HOPE ITS AS GOOD TO ME ON TUESDAY WHEN IT HAS THE FULL MOT TEST ;)
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: henryd on 27 January 2011, 23:10:14
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Much to my surprise and the mot testers who did a emissions test this morning,,,,, its passed with flying colours :y its now booked in for tuesday afternoon for a full mot test now i know it will pass the emissions
readingS were .....

FAST IDLE TEST:
DESCRIPTION                 LIMIT                            ACTUAL
Engine speed            2500/3000rpm              manual check
CO:                         max 0.200%                     0.061
HC:                         max 200ppm                        29
LAMBDA                 0.970- 1.030                        1.0001

NATURAL IDLE TEST:
Engine speed:              450-1500rpm             manual check
CO:                        max 0.300%                       0.019%

JUST HOPE ITS AS GOOD TO ME ON TUESDAY WHEN IT HAS THE FULL MOT TEST ;)

nice result,sounds like your cat is loose in its can but still functioning ok :y
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: bestie26 on 27 January 2011, 23:20:20
cheers i can cope with the rattle at a saving of £260 ill just keep my eyes open for a 2nd hand 1 along the way but for now iam chuffed
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: mrgreen on 27 January 2011, 23:29:59
i often think about changing my mazda for a more efficient car but i always come back to the fact that for what it costs to keep on the road in fuel and repair if i bought another more economical car i'll spend atleast an extra 2k and to me that'S alot of repair and petrol! anyway my mazda takes 12l per 100k and when i get my omega finally on the road it will seem like a hybrid to me i'm sure!!
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: RobG on 27 January 2011, 23:37:40
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cheers i can cope with the rattle at a saving of £260 ill just keep my eyes open for a 2nd hand 1 along the way but for now iam chuffed
I`ll have one available in a few days. :)
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: PhilRich on 28 January 2011, 12:09:03
Now you should buy it a nice prezzie to make up for calling it a 'stupid car'! ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: bestie26 on 28 January 2011, 23:48:30
 ;D ;D prezzie will have to wait until mot on tues.if the mot goes ok it will be booked in for cambelt and crank seal doin then off for the rear 1/4 and door blowing over in the right shade of silver :y good valet and i rekon thats a decent amount of prezzies dont you? just hope it appreciates it :y
Title: Re: Stupid car , scrap yard or ebay for you !!
Post by: Vamps on 29 January 2011, 00:30:17
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;D ;D prezzie will have to wait until mot on tues.if the mot goes ok it will be booked in for cambelt and crank seal doin then off for the rear 1/4 and door blowing over in the right shade of silver :y good valet and i rekon thats a decent amount of prezzies dont you? just hope it appreciates it :y
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I am sure it will.... :y