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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tigers_gonads on 08 February 2011, 17:54:10
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the towbar on my estate has twin electric's but only the lighting socket is conected.
the other one ( charging ) has never been conected up.
i've been told that towbars are now on the vosa mot hit list.
do they test both sockets or just the lighting one ?
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the towbar on my estate has twin electric's but only the lighting socket is conected.
the other one ( charging ) has never been conected up.
i've been told that towbars are now on the vosa mot hit list.
do they test both sockets or just the lighting one ?
They only check that the towbar is structurally sound and don't test either of the electrics. :y :y
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cheers andy :y
saves me a job of removing the plug ;)
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the towbar on my estate has twin electric's but only the lighting socket is conected.
the other one ( charging ) has never been conected up.
i've been told that towbars are now on the vosa mot hit list.
do they test both sockets or just the lighting one ?
They only check that the towbar is structurally sound and don't test either of the electrics. :y :y
For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
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All I know at the moment is its to test the wiring in the plus ie all connected and connected correctly. It may be a case if its not connected at all its not testable but if it is and there's a fault then its a fail.
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
All I know at the moment is its to test the wiring in the plus ie all connected and connected correctly. It may be a case if its not connected at all its not testable but if it is and there's a fault then its a fail.
I'm sure it won't be a problem as my single 13 pin is frequently used ...... I'll just leave the detachable bit at home so he'll have to 'not test it' ;) ;) ;)
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
Been nothing about this in any caravan press I know of, and absolutely nothing on the VOSA site either.
A search of VOSA site on "towbar" only brings up the one article .. the one we know of ..
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2009pressreleases/1-04-09vosaannouncesnewmottestfees.htm
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
Been nothing about this in any caravan press I know of, and absolutely nothing on the VOSA site either.
A search of VOSA site on "towbar" only brings up the one article .. the one we know of ..
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2009pressreleases/1-04-09vosaannouncesnewmottestfees.htm
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Im a tester and we've just had a special notice through telling us we need the 13pin testers by 1/1/12 which is when we start testing the sockets. So its definitely going to happen
Here's the link to the notice we got http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Special%20Notice%2001-11.pdf
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
Been nothing about this in any caravan press I know of, and absolutely nothing on the VOSA site either.
A search of VOSA site on "towbar" only brings up the one article .. the one we know of ..
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2009pressreleases/1-04-09vosaannouncesnewmottestfees.htm
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Im a tester and we've just had a special notice through telling us we need the 13pin testers by 1/1/12 which is when we start testing the sockets. So its definitely going to happen
Here's the link to the notice we got http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Special%20Notice%2001-11.pdf
Just wondering (as MOT's are in the topic) whether there is anything to the Chipped ECU and MOT's...
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For now. Vosa are starting to test the electrics as fron 01/01/2012.
That's worth knowing. Will that be to check that they actually work correctly or are just not potentially dangerous? And would your car fail if it wasn't actually wired up?
Been nothing about this in any caravan press I know of, and absolutely nothing on the VOSA site either.
A search of VOSA site on "towbar" only brings up the one article .. the one we know of ..
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2009pressreleases/1-04-09vosaannouncesnewmottestfees.htm
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Im a tester and we've just had a special notice through telling us we need the 13pin testers by 1/1/12 which is when we start testing the sockets. So its definitely going to happen
Here's the link to the notice we got http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Special%20Notice%2001-11.pdf
Thanks for that ... shame the great british public have not been informed as well ... :(
The other points that puzzle me .... a) most older cars (MOTable) will have 12N/12S sockets not 13-pin ones.... and b) Caravan 13 pin sockets come in 3 different varieties (although one is decidely more common)
I just wonder if this is an HGV requirement ??? are all HGV sockets 13 pin ??
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Just wondering (as MOT's are in the topic) whether there is anything to the Chipped ECU and MOT's...
Nothing that i've heard yet but there is talk of putting airbags and engine management in so if we're checking for management problems ecu's and chips would be an easy check
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Thanks for that ... shame the great british public have not been informed as well ... :(
Vosa never seem to let the public know - it just happens and us testers are left to take the flack.
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Thanks for that ... shame the great british public have not been informed as well ... :(
Vosa never seem to let the public know - it just happens and us testers are left to take the flack.
Thanks .. while you were posting that I was editing mine with some late thoughts .. your views would be appreciated :)
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Of course, the easy answer is to put a cover over the sockets... MOT testers are (currently) not allowed to remove anything for the test ;) ;)
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Thanks for that ... shame the great british public have not been informed as well ... :(
Vosa never seem to let the public know - it just happens and us testers are left to take the flack.
Thanks .. while you were posting that I was editing mine with some late thoughts .. your views would be appreciated :)
At the moment you now know as much as me we got that notice 2 weeks ago and we probably wont hear any more about it until September(that's when most changes seem to happen) so I'm afraid I cant help you much more
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Of course, the easy answer is to put a cover over the sockets... MOT testers are (currently) not allowed to remove anything for the test ;) ;)
But it could be made a requirement to be able to gain access like it is for petrol caps ect if we cant check it we refuse to test the car.
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Of course, the easy answer is to put a cover over the sockets... MOT testers are (currently) not allowed to remove anything for the test ;) ;)
But it could be made a requirement to be able to gain access like it is for petrol caps ect if we cant check it we refuse to test the car.
And I hope it does... Too many people driving around with faulty trailer lights :y
I always thought it was a stupid rule anyway, especially as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
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.... as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
So that means you're not allowed to lift the seat test the seat belts? :-? :-? :-?
Stupid rule. :-?
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.... as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
So that means you're not allowed to lift the seat test the seat belts? :-? :-? :-?
Stupid rule. :-?
I agree, they may be folded down but they are available for use, almost instantly, and surly seatbelts is one of the more 'sensible' things to test..... :-/
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.... as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
So that means you're not allowed to lift the seat test the seat belts? :-? :-? :-?
Stupid rule. :-?
Yep... Just note that the vehicle was presented with the seats folded flat >:( >:(
Thankfully I knew the guy and I also knew it was actually used as a van and never for carrying passengers, otherwise it would have been a real moral issue for me
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Just wondering (as MOT's are in the topic) whether there is anything to the Chipped ECU and MOT's...
Nothing that i've heard yet but there is talk of putting airbags and engine management in so if we're checking for management problems ecu's and chips would be an easy check
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Time to return to old skool motoring I think... :(
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But then the Annual MOT is a waste of time anyway... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
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.... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
Agreed, but better than no check at all. :-/
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.... as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
So that means you're not allowed to lift the seat test the seat belts? :-? :-? :-?
Stupid rule. :-?
Your aloud to lift seats now as long as no tools are needed we also check the rear seats on mpvs like the zafira.
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Does the socket legally need to be wired specifically to conform to a standard? I deliberately used to wire my caravan differently so if some one stole it the lighting system would not work correctly then had an adaptor if I borrowed a trailer. Would this now be illegal even if your own trailer lights performed correctly? :-/
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.... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
Agreed, but better than no check at all. :-/
What is with the angry faces.... ::) ::) ::)
My reference was to the electronic checks, old skool cars do not have this problem, I was not referring to dodgy MOT testers, which still abound.... :-X Not mine though, he is my ex brother in law, so no favours.... ::) ::) ::) and he was the person that bought my Mitsubishi..... :'( :'( :'( :'(
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.... as we had a customer when I was testing who always delivered the car with the rear seats folded... The seatbelt buckles were knackered >:(
So that means you're not allowed to lift the seat test the seat belts? :-? :-? :-?
Stupid rule. :-?
Your aloud to lift seats now as long as no tools are needed we also check the rear seats on mpvs like the zafira.
That's a relief :y :y
I've not been testing for about 8/9 years now so I'm sure plenty has changed ::) ::)
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.... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
Agreed, but better than no check at all. :-/
What is with the angry faces.... ::) ::) ::)
My reference was to the electronic checks, old skool cars do not have this problem, I was not referring to dodgy MOT testers, which still abound.... :-X Not mine though, he is my ex brother in law, so no favours.... ::) ::) ::) and he was the person that bought my Mitsubishi..... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Angry face ... No comment :-X ::)
Agree Andy, better than no checks :y
Vamps, there will, unfortunately, always be the demand for dodgy MOT's and therefore someone who's willing to try and make a quick buck by providing them... Although with the new computerised system at least it's not a person sat in the pub writing them out :y :y
I have a very good MOT tester... He knows he won't get work off me and is willing to be sensible about some things (with no reference to smelly things supplied by Kosovans :-X :-X :-X)
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.... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
Agreed, but better than no check at all. :-/
What is with the angry faces.... ::) ::) ::)
My reference was to the electronic checks, old skool cars do not have this problem, I was not referring to dodgy MOT testers, which still abound.... :-X Not mine though, he is my ex brother in law, so no favours.... ::) ::) ::) and he was the person that bought my Mitsubishi..... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Angry face ... No comment :-X ::)
Agree Andy, better than no checks :y
Vamps, there will, unfortunately, always be the demand for dodgy MOT's and therefore someone who's willing to try and make a quick buck by providing them... Although with the new computerised system at least it's not a person sat in the pub writing them out :y :y
I have a very good MOT tester... He knows he won't get work off me and is willing to be sensible about some things (with no reference to smelly things supplied by Kosovans :-X :-X :-X)
LD how very very dare you. Please admins, I had nothing to do with this..... :P :P :P
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.... Too many people use it as the only time the car gets checked >:(
Agreed, but better than no check at all. :-/
What is with the angry faces.... ::) ::) ::)
My reference was to the electronic checks, old skool cars do not have this problem, I was not referring to dodgy MOT testers, which still abound.... :-X Not mine though, he is my ex brother in law, so no favours.... ::) ::) ::) and he was the person that bought my Mitsubishi..... :'( :'( :'( :'(
Angry face ... No comment :-X ::)
Agree Andy, better than no checks :y
Vamps, there will, unfortunately, always be the demand for dodgy MOT's and therefore someone who's willing to try and make a quick buck by providing them... Although with the new computerised system at least it's not a person sat in the pub writing them out :y :y
I have a very good MOT tester... He knows he won't get work off me and is willing to be sensible about some things (with no reference to smelly things supplied by Kosovans :-X :-X :-X)
LD how very very dare you. Please admins, I had nothing to do with this..... :P :P :P
Well... I figure that after my last post count cull I'm in credit :-X ::)
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just as a side to this as driving to work today saw 3 different utility co vehicles towing trailers none had working trailer lights. Why surely these are the people to be targeted.
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just as a side to this as driving to work today saw 3 different utility co vehicles towing trailers none had working trailer lights. Why surely these are the people to be targeted.
Would these vehicles be "kept" long enough to actually be MOTable ???
Law exists to have them now .. but we just don't have enough Police out doing spot checks ... just think how many trailers they could nick, or chavs with foglights on .....
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also why test the car wiring when there is no test for the caravan,trailer,boat attached to it :-X
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vosa apparently have the power to conduct roadside checks whatever age of vehicle and commercial vehicle i believe dont have the 3 yr rule