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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: TheBoy on 30 March 2011, 11:47:33
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Here is the evaporator
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5095.JPG)
Looking again, would I be right in saying that the grey pipes are coolant (does it have an IN and an OUT, or does it not matter), the larger brass pipes are LPG out (1 per bank?), and the top brass is LPG in (or is that the vac?).
It came with what looks like a filter
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5096.JPG)
These is the valve set.
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5097.JPG)
I guess one on the right is the filler (as it has a hole in it ;D, one on left is gauge/sensor (no holes in it ;D), and top is the solenoid? If its 4 hole. what blocks the 4th hole?
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Here is the evaporator
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5095.JPG)
Looking again, would I be right in saying that the grey pipes are coolant (does it have an IN and an OUT, or does it not matter), the larger brass pipes are LPG out (1 per bank?), and the top brass is LPG in (or is that the vac?).
Can't see the gas connections being plastic so I'd say the plastic ones are for coolant. The small brass hose barb will be vacuum reference. Can't see the liquid inlet from here.
It came with what looks like a filter
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5096.JPG)
Yep, that will connect between the fuel line and the vapouriser. Is there a solenoid on that too? Or is it built into the vapouriser?
These is the valve set.
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/Silver_Dart/LPG/IMG_5097.JPG)
I guess one on the right is the filler (as it has a hole in it ;D, one on left is gauge/sensor (no holes in it ;D), and top is the solenoid? If its 4 hole. what blocks the 4th hole?
There should be a pressure relief valve in the other hole. That's in the other plastic bag next to the solenoid. (with a red bung in it)
You should have a right-angled union on the filler to take you out of the side of the valve box, then an adaptor to go into polyflex.
Kevin
EDIT: I can see the (blue) solenoid connector on the top of the vapouriser so I guess the liquid goes in near that somewhere.
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Found a threaded hole on one side of vapouriser, can see solenoid through it, so that'll be the inlet for LPG. Doh ;D
The right angle piece in the bag with the suspected pressure releif piece has right size thread to go into filler. Does the pressure relief have a pipe to take gas out of car, or is that just vented into gas box?
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
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I had that Vap, on my old 2.5
It always cut out at 6000 rpm, even at the highest pressure. Hopefully your 4 hole tank will help...
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TB, if you want an extra pair of hands let me know :y
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
So, I'm all ready to go then :D
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I had that Vap, on my old 2.5
It always cut out at 6000 rpm, even at the highest pressure. Hopefully your 4 hole tank will help...
Thats not a good sign. Maybe this one has a larger capacity?
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
So, I'm all ready to go then :D
Hmmm, maybe not. In the dim and distant past when we did the MV6, I seem to recall Teilo not providing long enough frame mounting bolts. Don't suppose he would have remembered longer ones this time ;D
Can anyone remember how long they need to be?
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
So, I'm all ready to go then :D
Hmmm, maybe not. In the dim and distant past when we did the MV6, I seem to recall Teilo not providing long enough frame mounting bolts. Don't suppose he would have remembered longer ones this time ;D
Can anyone remember how long they need to be?
I've got a big bag of bolts I used for my frame mounting, yours if you need :y
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I would just get some M10?(IIRC) threaded rod and a load of nyloc nuts and washers and cut to length.
My 4 hole tank didn't come with bolts at all, nor spreader plates. I think I got both from the local B&Q whorehouse.
Kevin
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
So, I'm all ready to go then :D
Hmmm, maybe not. In the dim and distant past when we did the MV6, I seem to recall Teilo not providing long enough frame mounting bolts. Don't suppose he would have remembered longer ones this time ;D
Can anyone remember how long they need to be?
I've got a big bag of bolts I used for my frame mounting, yours if you need :y
Was yours mounted through chassis members can you remember?
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I would just get some M10?(IIRC) threaded rod and a load of nyloc nuts and washers and cut to length.
My 4 hole tank didn't come with bolts at all, nor spreader plates. I think I got both from the local B&Q whorehouse.
Kevin
Would I be better just getting some longer bolts? Does it have to be stainless, or anything like that?
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It just vents into the box, and is then taken out of the car by the ducting. :y
Kevin
So, I'm all ready to go then :D
Hmmm, maybe not. In the dim and distant past when we did the MV6, I seem to recall Teilo not providing long enough frame mounting bolts. Don't suppose he would have remembered longer ones this time ;D
Can anyone remember how long they need to be?
I've got a big bag of bolts I used for my frame mounting, yours if you need :y
Was yours mounted through chassis members can you remember?
Yup it was:
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/LPG/Day1/DSC00636.JPG)
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/LPG/Day1/DSC00639.JPG)
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Tunnie, given that they are nylock nuts, not sure I would have bothered with antishake washer, allowing the nylock to grip more...
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Tunnie, given that they are nylock nuts, not sure I would have bothered with antishake washer, allowing the nylock to grip more...
Blame Lazytinker, I was just a useless student doing what he was told :P
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Would you believe it, I can't find a rather ruler anywhere ;D
Found the bolts Teilo supplier, look to be around 8cm as a guess, so he's provided the same as last time.
Tunnie's certainly look longer, and without antishake washers, look to be long enough.
I might try to pick up some threaded rod as a backup, but its half day closing around these parts on a Wednesday...
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I might try to pick up some threaded rod as a backup, but its half day closing around these parts on a Wednesday...
I was right, local hardware shop shut ;D
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I might try to pick up some threaded rod as a backup, but its half day closing around these parts on a Wednesday...
I was right, local hardware shop shut ;D
I told you they were crap! Never, ever open when you want them to be :(
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I might try to pick up some threaded rod as a backup, but its half day closing around these parts on a Wednesday...
I was right, local hardware shop shut ;D
I told you they were crap! Never, ever open when you want them to be :(
Just don't go Wednesday afternoons, Saturdays after about 2:30 or Sunday then ;D
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I'm still not convinced that vaporisor is ideal for a 3.0 V6 :-/
I thought Tielo was going to be providing something more substantial, like this:
(http://autogas-lpg.co.uk/197-1042-large/vaporiser-reducer-omvl-901501k-r90-emax-139kw.jpg)
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I might try to pick up some threaded rod as a backup, but its half day closing around these parts on a Wednesday...
I was right, local hardware shop shut ;D
I told you they were crap! Never, ever open when you want them to be :(
Just don't go Wednesday afternoons, Saturdays after about 2:30 or Sunday then ;D
I would only get up at 12 on Saturdays, so that was part of the problem ::) ;D
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I'm still not convinced that vaporisor is ideal for a 3.0 V6 :-/
I thought Tielo was going to be providing something more substantial, like this:
(http://autogas-lpg.co.uk/197-1042-large/vaporiser-reducer-omvl-901501k-r90-emax-139kw.jpg)
Its probably around the same size as my existing one in the MV6, and thats trouble free - certainly not seen the lag issues that Lazytinker and chrisgixer see, just a horrid gearchange at 6750rpm (very horrid at 3rd to 4th).
chrisgixers lag is a different kettle of fish to lazytinkers, and due, I reckon, to the later engine ECUs - the lag is there, to a lesser extent, on petrol.
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I would only get up at 12 on Saturdays, so that was part of the problem ::) ;D
Once a student, always a useless student....
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I would only get up at 12 on Saturdays, so that was part of the problem ::) ;D
Once a student, always a useless student....
Problem is, even if you get up on time, it gives you just long enough to get into a DIY job and then realise you've lost / mullered a vital part. ::)
Kevin
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I would only get up at 12 on Saturdays, so that was part of the problem ::) ;D
Once a student, always a useless student....
Problem is, even if you get up on time, it gives you just long enough to get into a DIY job and then realise you've lost / mullered a vital part. ::)
Kevin
Sounds like a perfect excuse not to do any DIY around the house :y. Besides, I like magnolia more than Mrs TheBoy does, obviously ::)
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I've got a load of bolts... The thread on them is a bit close, hence the anti shake washers to pad it out a smidge ;)
Vaporiser... Not sure which one you got in the end. Does it say? Whichever way, we're testing it on yours ;) If it has the lag he will replace it if required :y It is a faster reacting vaporiser and tested (not just rated) to 312bhp IIRCC
As per PM, I'm available pretty much any time and willing to come and take the piss watch help do whatever I can... Not a lot TBH
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Lag is indeed there on petrol on my current car, mostly evident on lift off from wot.
Also drove that BRC LPG 3.2 last week that I mentioned elsewhere, it has very slight lag on wot gear changes, but very slight and very gentle. The BRC has a feature that introduces injectors one at a time so any jolts or power increases when switching over are ironed out, seems to work in that it gets round the problem rather than solving it. Certainly not a jolt as experienced previously.
I'd be happy with lag at that level.
Vap is BRC's own branded and there some other little black boxes around the engine bay, plus extra vac references to the plenum. Injectors lead to what appears to be straws in the top of the plenum. :-?
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Lag is indeed there on petrol on my current car, mostly evident on lift off from wot.
Also drove that BRC LPG 3.2 last week that I mentioned elsewhere, it has very slight lag on wot gear changes, but very slight and very gentle. The BRC has a feature that introduces injectors one at a time so any jolts or power increases when switching over are ironed out, seems to work in that it gets round the problem rather than solving it. Certainly not a jolt as experienced previously.
I'd be happy with lag at that level.
Vap is BRC's own branded and there some other little black boxes around the engine bay, plus extra vac references to the plenum. Injectors lead to what appears to be straws in the top of the plenum. :-?
So does the Stag 300. :y
Kevin
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BRC also have timing processors, which I may well be fitting to mine soon to see if it resolves the problem/improves economy
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Lag is indeed there on petrol on my current car, mostly evident on lift off from wot.
Also drove that BRC LPG 3.2 last week that I mentioned elsewhere, it has very slight lag on wot gear changes, but very slight and very gentle. The BRC has a feature that introduces injectors one at a time so any jolts or power increases when switching over are ironed out, seems to work in that it gets round the problem rather than solving it. Certainly not a jolt as experienced previously.
I'd be happy with lag at that level.
Vap is BRC's own branded and there some other little black boxes around the engine bay, plus extra vac references to the plenum. Injectors lead to what appears to be straws in the top of the plenum. :-?
So does the Stag 300. :y
Kevin
Really? So was it working on my old car? There was a definate step in acceleration at wot if switching to petrol at say 4k, when the LPG button was pressed to switch LPG off. That wasn't present on the BRC system. :-/