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Title: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 14:44:23
The car isn't an Omega but the Cambelt Change is 4,000 miles over due...

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What car do you think it is?? :)


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Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 April 2011, 14:48:09
Looks like it was lucky it stopped before that broken-off valve head did terminal damage.

Kevin
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 April 2011, 14:50:15
Impressive, actually snapping a valve :o :o Check the pistons and bores carefully on that one ;) ;)

Car... Not entirely sure but don't think it's a Vauxhall... Can't decide between Rover and Ford as my guess :-/ :-/
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 14:52:55
A few small marks on the pistin tops, raised them all to the top of their stroke and they all seem to measure the same distance so fingers crossed  ;)

Lazytinker it isn't a Vauxhall  :-*
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 April 2011, 14:55:19
I think Daz those valves look rather pretty ! 8-) 8-) 8-)

You should paint the tops pink and plant them in a flower pot ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 14:56:38
Maybe so Lizzie  :D ;D
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 April 2011, 15:08:36
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Lazytinker it isn't a Vauxhall  :-*

Isn't that what I said ::) ::) ::)

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...don't think it's a Vauxhall

Leaning towards a Rover at the moment but still not 100%
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2011, 15:09:56
Is the intake on the cold side of that engine :o
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2011, 15:11:22
The inlet does look (BMW era) Roveresque, but not a K...
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 April 2011, 15:11:41
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Is the intake on the cold side of that engine :o

Yep... Which has just changed my mind... It's not a Rover (as I was leaning towards), it's a Ford
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 15:19:38
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Is the intake on the cold side of that engine :o

Yep... Which has just changed my mind... It's not a Rover (as I was leaning towards), it's a Ford


Is it ? . .
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 April 2011, 15:27:17
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Is the intake on the cold side of that engine :o

Yep... Which has just changed my mind... It's not a Rover (as I was leaning towards), it's a Ford


Is it ? . .

I dunno... You're the one working on it! ;D ;D ;D

Still can't decide 100%... Could be, as TB said, a non K-series Rover :-/ :-/
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 15:27:18
I have re lapped all the new 16 valves and refitted, cleaned everything up ready to build up tomorrow. New Cambelt Kit, Water Pump, Head Gasket & Bolts etc ready.   :y
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 15:28:38
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Is the intake on the cold side of that engine :o

Yep... Which has just changed my mind... It's not a Rover (as I was leaning towards), it's a Ford


Is it ? . .

I dunno... You're the one working on it! ;D ;D ;D

Still can't decide 100%... Could be, as TB said, a non K-series Rover :-/ :-/

I can't remember now.  ;D
It isn't a Rover either.   ;)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Lazydocker on 01 April 2011, 15:32:54
Hmmm... Got a vague recollection of VW having a similar inlet/exhaust layout at some point in the past :-/ :-/

But I don't care... I'm not playing your silly game unless you post a picture of the engine before you dismantled it :P ::) :D
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: sierrapaul on 01 April 2011, 15:45:08
looking at the clamp on the exhaust downpipe im thinking vw golf or polo.lucky it didnt do more damage.seen cambelts go and hole a piston before.i had an ols 2 litre dohc sierra and the timeing chain snapped when was doing nearly a ton that put holes in 2 pistons and snapped both cams.it was a right mess when i stripped it down.paul
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: aaronjb on 01 April 2011, 15:48:26
I have this vision of DLK phoning up the motor factors and having a conversation like;

"I need a cambelt kit"
"Certainly sir, what car?"
"Ah, I can't remember. Hang on, I'll post some pics on the internet and someone will tell me"
 ;D
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: mantagte on 01 April 2011, 16:02:19
Audi A3
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 April 2011, 16:42:22
Thats happened to the Omega I am just stripping but the Auxiliary belt tensioner siezed causing the aux belt to snap and bits went onto the bottom pully causing the cambelt to jump lots of teeth :(
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: albitz on 01 April 2011, 17:14:20
Peugeot 206 ? :-/
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: dbug on 01 April 2011, 17:24:34
Come on Daz - give us a clue - post a pic of the car up  :)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 April 2011, 19:28:41
My ugly odd mate Albs the Aweful has it right. . Peugeot 206 Gti. .  I did think about straightening these valves with me Grandads coal hammer lmao  ;D
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 April 2011, 19:57:36
I fear for those guides given how badly bent and goosed those valves are!
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 19:58:10
Good Heavens above that happened after only 4000 miles over the recommeded mileage!
I had better double check mine. .  :-?
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: SJKOO01 on 01 April 2011, 20:46:23
Just goes to show that some people who try to leave such service time to save a bit of money, can end up paying out a small fortune at the end of the day.

My 3.2 allegedly had a Cambelt change some 20,000 miles ago, but even though I had a police print out, I didn't chance it.  Good job I did get it done, as I choose to get the water pump changed at the same time.  I don't think it had been renewed since the car was sold to the Police force originally! :o .

The blades were shall we say, slightly worn down   ::) .  When I saw them it reminded me of when Rimmer (Red Dwarf) was locked in his cell for 600 years with those stress balls to use  ;D
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: albitz on 01 April 2011, 21:50:26
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Good Heavens above that happened after only 4000 miles over the recommeded mileage!
I had better double check mine. .  :-?

What do you drive then Ray ? ::)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 22:30:01
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Good Heavens above that happened after only 4000 miles over the recommeded mileage!
I had better double check mine. .  :-?

What do you drive then Ray ? ::)

A 2.2 cd Omega. What do you drive?  :)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: feeutfo on 01 April 2011, 22:44:17
Avoid alphas then,ESP the twin sparks, they have a 30 second fuse past the recommended mileage before the belt sheds it's teeth and ..... caboom.
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 22:53:09
Myra my wife has managed to find out our car papers. In the service section it has had a toothed belt changed at 40,000 miles. My car only has 74,000 odd on the clock so I am ok for a while longer. I am glad about that started to get worried. 
Thank you
Ray  :)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Andy B on 01 April 2011, 22:58:07
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Myra my wife has managed to find out our car papers. In the service section it has had a toothed belt changed at 40,000 miles. My car only has 74,000 odd on the clock so I am ok for a while longer. I am glad about that started to get worried. 
Thank you
Ray  :)
there's a 4 yrs limit too.  ;) It's 40 000 miles or 4 yrs which ever comes first.  :y
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 23:06:50
20th September 2005 it has a tick by the toothed belt on the service book. It has a few services with stamps after until I bought the car now my relation looks after it.
Ray  :)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Entwood on 01 April 2011, 23:12:56
If that is true it is 18 months overdue ... would have been due in September 2009 ....

The question you have to ask is .. are you willing to risk the £300 (ish) for a new belt fitted  against the cost of new heads etc if the belt goes ???

Personally I'd be giving Elite Pete or Daz (Darth Loo Knee) a PM very quickly ... or, if you are good with spanners .. buy the forum DVD on how to change if and DIY .. :)

Either way .. IMHO it needs needed doing some while back !!
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Andy B on 01 April 2011, 23:14:49
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20th September 2005 it has a tick by the toothed belt on the service book. ....

Is that when it was last done then? If so it needs doing ............ sooner rather than later.  ;)
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ken T on 01 April 2011, 23:15:34
Its not just the belt that needs changing, 

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3641.jpg)

My water pumpt at 55K, sheared the shaft, belt came off, and ..... you can guess the rest.  :'(

Ken
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 23:19:54
Oh. .  Can we get away with having the belt changed?
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Andy B on 01 April 2011, 23:22:28
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Oh. .  Can we get away with having the belt changed?
you need to change the kit ie the tensioner & eccentric rollers.
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Ray_Tupper on 01 April 2011, 23:25:58
There is a young man named Mark dtr he has very good ratings I will see if I can contact him.
Thanks again.
Ray.
Title: Re: What happens when the Cambelt Change is over due..
Post by: Entwood on 01 April 2011, 23:32:25
It's not the belt that fails usually .. it's the bearings in the tensioners/rollers .. but still has a disastrous effect ..

Daz .. Dart loo Knee ... who started this thread does the job (but you are forced to listen to weird music) .. as does Elite Pete ..

he started this thread

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1301483616

you can contact either by clicking the PM button by their signatures ..