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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: russ0205 on 18 April 2011, 19:22:30
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My brother had a volvo c30 1.6 diesel for a couple of hours yesterday as he is just buying one. well giving it loads of right foot it still returned 63mpg and only £30 a year road tax.not as comfortable as the mig i found but hey with that mpg,
;) ;) ;) ;)
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I think the Omegas a well past it when it comes to MPG tbh.
I had a 59 plate Passat 2.0 litre TDI highline, (top of the range)
As a hire car for 2 months after an accident (not at my own expense thank god)
It was the 130bhp one and was quick when needed, VERY comfortable, and on a run i could happily get 62mpg, and at least 49mpg with a heavy foot and around town.
All that in a car which i would say despite being Wrong wheel drive, had nearly as much space as the omega does.
I cant afford one of those yet though...lol ::)
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Modern diesels do appear to be very good on fuel, but my argument is they still cost, what £20,000 ?
With an Omega costing sub £1k, ok it may get crappy MPG (not on LPG :D) but even V6 petrol, its going to take a very long time to make back the savings.
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel
Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over ::)
My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.
Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k
Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel
Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over ::)
My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.
Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k
Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....
But that is something you can still do with any car ;) ;)
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel
Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over ::)
My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.
Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k
Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....
But that is something you can still do with any car ;) ;)
True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!
So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!
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this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.
You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...
A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k
Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel
Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over ::)
My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.
Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k
Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....
But that is something you can still do with any car ;) ;)
True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!
So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!
very true Tunnie,I had a look at a peugeot forum recently and it was useless :-X
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But that is something you can still do with any car ;) ;)
True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!
So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!
Can't argue with that... Although there's a lot of knowledge for other cars on this forum too ;) ;)
I am a member of quite a few different forums (fora?) and none of them are as friendly and helpful as this one :y I wouldn't even consider spending time with a complete stranger (as you were when I came down to do your conversion ;)) some 150 miles away for any of the other forums ;) ;)
As has been discussed many times, I have made many acquaintances and some good friends through this forum, something I can't say for any of the others I'm a member of :y :y
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Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!
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Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!
How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust :o ;D
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Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!
How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust :o ;D
10 plus minutes, consumption drops to about 20-30mpg tops.
They work by over fueling late into the cycle, the unburnt fuel then ignites in the cat and the DPF temperature then rockets.
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Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!
How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust :o ;D
10 plus minutes, consumption drops to about 20-30mpg tops.
They work by over fueling late into the cycle, the unburnt fuel then ignites in the cat and the DPF temperature then rockets.
Useful to know, thats :y
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I should add that on the Volvo lumps they have a little issue with bore wash as a result....this fills the sump and the result is an over revving engine (we had two die this way at work).
The trick is to recognise the regen is happening and drive accordingly but sadly, this is not always possible (and hence why I would not recommend a modern diesel to somebody who does mainly town/city driving).
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My old man has bought a 3 year old 307 turbo diesel with 25k on the clock that returns about 55mpg around town hammering it and its surprisingly quick.
You can put down £200 and then pay about 190 a month for one then hand the keys back after 3 years at my local, dealership although he payed 6500 for his outright which is good I reckon as that means no MOTs and the tax is cheap as well..
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My old man has bought a 3 year old 307 turbo diesel with 25k on the clock that returns about 55mpg around town hammering it and its surprisingly quick.
You can put down £200 and then pay about 190 a month for one then hand the keys back after 3 years at my local, dealership although he payed 6500 for his outright which is good I reckon as that means no MOTs and the tax is cheap as well..
190 a month for 3 years plus £200? That's over 7k just to "hand the keys back" after driving a pretty dull (IMHO) wrong-wheel-drive car for a few years. ;)
No doubt you'd get screwed at the end of it for doing too many miles or for any visible wear and tear. After all, you are, in effect, just hiring the car.
Nor for me, I'm afraid. £190 a month would more than pay for the extra fuel to drive my 3.2 and probably the parts and servicing too. I know what I'd rather be driving. ;)
Kevin
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I don't think I could sleep at night knowing I'm paying total of £7k just to have nothing to show for it at the end. Especially when you can get a nice v6 miggy for around 1k.