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Title: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 03 May 2011, 20:11:47
I work with its new owner, TheDaddy - some of the Mario Karters may know him by another name (spookily enough, there is a Mario Karter called TheDaddy, but thats someone else...  ...confused? Me too)

As regulars will recall, I am not a fan of Omega manuals, but I did have myself a little fun :D.  TheDaddy doesn't make a good passenger either ;D

The handling is OK, though has that MV6 high speed understeer, but I reckon we can get a few more GGs from the motor...
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Jimbob on 03 May 2011, 20:12:34
sounds good - so whats his Mario name then?
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 03 May 2011, 20:15:06
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sounds good - so whats his Mario name then?
"Tony"
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Jimbob on 03 May 2011, 21:18:28
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sounds good - so whats his Mario name then?
"Tony"
:y
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: feeutfo on 04 May 2011, 05:41:56
A Chip?
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: feeutfo on 04 May 2011, 05:43:29
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A Chip?
For the car, not......  ::).  ;D
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 07:45:53
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A Chip?
No, there is something else - it just feels a bit flat IME.  I think we will start with the basics.

Will probably start with putting the original airbox back on, with the standard cold feed.  I was in work gear yesterday, so didn't look at fuel filter etc...
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Elite Pete on 04 May 2011, 08:59:36
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A Chip?
No, there is something else - it just feels a bit flat IME.  I think we will start with the basics.

Will probably start with putting the original airbox back on, with the standard cold feed.  I was in work gear yesterday, so didn't look at fuel filter etc...[/quote]
The last thing you want is a ladder in your stockings ;D ;D
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 May 2011, 09:00:58
Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. :y

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 09:07:55
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Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. :y

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin
I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager.  Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 May 2011, 09:14:40
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Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. :y

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin
I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager.  Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter

It should already be compensating via the intake air temperature sensor but no harm in a check / reset of the BLMs anyway.
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Shimmy on 04 May 2011, 10:30:14
Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5.  There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2011, 10:32:21
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Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. :y

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin
I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager.  Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter

It should already be compensating via the intake air temperature sensor but no harm in a check / reset of the BLMs anyway.

No need, its measuring Mass Air Flow so temp is already taken into account  :y

I suspect the air temp sensor does little more than allow the ECU to get an estimate of fuel temp (and hence why buggering with it seems to do bugger all)
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 11:16:09
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Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5.  There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.
We talking about Omegas ;D
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 May 2011, 11:44:35
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No need, its measuring Mass Air Flow so temp is already taken into account  :y

I suspect the air temp sensor does little more than allow the ECU to get an estimate of fuel temp (and hence why buggering with it seems to do bugger all)

True.  :-[ I'm thinking speed-density as usual.

Kevin
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Shimmy on 04 May 2011, 11:48:43
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Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5.  There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.
We talking about Omegas ;D

Oops.

Saw Amigo mentioned and something about an MX5 and jumped right in.  :D :P
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 12:21:24
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Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5.  There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.
We talking about Omegas ;D

Oops.

Saw Amigo mentioned and something about an MX5 and jumped right in.  :D :P
Since buying an MX5, Amigo has called himself Amigo MX5 :y
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 May 2011, 12:45:39
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Since buying an MX5, Amigo has called himself Amigo MX5 :y

I think he should buy a Montego next. It rolls off the tongue much better. ;)
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: hotel21 on 04 May 2011, 13:25:21
 Reckon the fuel filter will be at worst, perhaps 4 years old, assuming guy didn't change it in his ownership. Car used to have an mtek chip in but was removed some time prior to sale. I liked the firmer rear springs and the resultant handling but agree it's not very persons idea of fun..... ;)
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 13:43:10
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fun.....
Oh, never fear, fun was had yesterday morning...  ...I'm happy in the knowledge that I scrubbed some tread from TheDaddy's tyres, and burned a gallon of his petrol ;D

Is it Irmscher sprung all round?

//TB scurries off, forming a plan to nick the springs...
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: hotel21 on 04 May 2011, 15:17:42
Lowered irmscher rear, standard mv6 front.

Or did I give you a pair of saloon irmscher rears?  Or standards, in an irmscher box?  Can't recall now..... :-[
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2011, 16:08:21
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Lowered irmscher rear, standard mv6 front.

Or did I give you a pair of saloon irmscher rears?  Or standards, in an irmscher box?  Can't recall now..... :-[
You gave me std MV6 springs (that I've failed twice to put on my saggy-assed MV6 now  :-[)
Title: Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Post by: hotel21 on 04 May 2011, 17:10:38
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Lowered irmscher rear, standard mv6 front.

Or did I give you a pair of saloon irmscher rears?  Or standards, in an irmscher box?  Can't recall now..... :-[
You gave me std MV6 springs (that I've failed twice to put on my saggy-assed MV6 now  :-[)
In that case, they are the original rear springs from The Big Black Beastie....   ;)