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Title: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 15:56:50
going to be lowering my omega soon and want to know what i am getting my self in to  :)

or if you are going to be lowering your car over the next few weeks could you write one for me please  :y
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 16:21:40
I may well be lowering my car tomorrow depending on the weather.
My springs just arrived today.

I will take pictures as and when i can. will let you know how i get on.
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: 51M0N on 23 May 2011, 16:22:47
I'd advise doing the shocks as well. unless you want your spine dislodging.

I have Bilsteins on mine
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 16:27:36
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I may well be lowering my car tomorrow depending on the weather.
My springs just arrived today.

I will take pictures as and when i can. will let you know how i get on.

sweet, good man...do the best you can as the thought of lowering mine is scarey  :-[
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 16:28:44
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I'd advise doing the shocks as well. unless you want your spine dislodging.

I have Bilsteins on mine

i know, thats what i would advise also....however, im only doing the springs until later in the year maybe  :)
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 16:33:05
toooooooo late lol.
Cant afford shocks as well hahah
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 16:37:30
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toooooooo late lol.
Cant afford shocks as well hahah
Strongly advise waiting until you can do all your work at once. You need to consider set up, camber, inner tyre edge wear ....

Someone explain, beginning to think it's just me.
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 16:42:17
Dont get preachy....

I know the outcome of my own actions chris.

I have been waiting to do the wishbones since ive had the car....It handles like a pig already, its all over the shop at the rear end because of bad camber setups and shot rear doughnuts......

Ive driven it 5000 miles like that.....because i had no money.

Now, i have all the parts...and I have the time.....
I'm going to do it all over the next couple of days, and then go to WIM.
I see nothing wrong with that statement.

As for the shocks...that's personal preference as far as i'm concerned. These springs are designed to work with standard shocks and as such the choice is mine. I may well experience a slightly harsh ride, but if my shocks are ok, then i see no reason to spend even more money.
 :-?
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 16:44:01
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toooooooo late lol.
Cant afford shocks as well hahah

sweet, well just a few photos of the front and back and a little write up if poss.

the guide section on this site looks okay, but there is nothing regarding springs, which is odd as i would have thought it is a fairly common mod with such a high riding car  :-?
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 16:47:08
There is a guide on rear spring removal though....which is all you would need to know in order to lower it. Sooooo technically lol.

As for the fronts...well if you've changed springs before then you have a rough idea like me, but I'll be mostly taking as it comes.

Spring compressors are most likely a must. and it will just be the same as removing the front shocks and compressing the springs, undoing top mounts blah blah.

Will let you know once i do it
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 16:53:18
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There is a guide on rear spring removal though....which is all you would need to know in order to lower it. Sooooo technically lol.

As for the fronts...well if you've changed springs before then you have a rough idea like me, but I'll be mostly taking as it comes.

Spring compressors are most likely a must. and it will just be the same as removing the front shocks and compressing the springs, undoing top mounts blah blah.

Will let you know once i do it

i was looking through the guides earlier but i couldnt find anything on rear springs.

i lowered my calibra myself, but this is a different car and i am not really comfortable in carring out the work without looking at what i will be getting myself into.

 :y
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 16:56:15
as seen here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170939305
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: 51M0N on 23 May 2011, 16:56:31
The camber is a pain in the arse mine still isnt right. but hey ho
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:05:05
Yeah my front left is well out at around 2.something, but the right hand side is correct.

The rears I'm not too sure about, they look out, but i experience no uneven wear at all....so who knows.

All i know is that since i've had it, it's handled OK, but it doesnt really like going in a straight line much, and there's a fair bit of body roll.

So will most likely need some antiroll bar bushes as well.
springs will help, but i'm not sure how much the camber can be corrected by WIM after i fit the lowered springs.

Hopefully enough to correct the drop. I'll take as close as they can get mind
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 17:09:32
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The camber is a pain in the arse mine still isnt right. but hey ho
i have seen a guid on here for that, so i will take messurements before i lower it.

i take it as there is a guide for camber that this can be adjusted with not mods needed...

as the calibra needs a camber correction kit iirc ?
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:13:34
correct, front camber can be adjusted using the two mounting bolts at the bottom of the shock absorber.
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 17:18:26
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Dont get preachy....

I know the outcome of my own actions chris.

I have been waiting to do the wishbones since ive had the car....It handles like a pig already, its all over the shop at the rear end because of bad camber setups and shot rear doughnuts......

Ive driven it 5000 miles like that.....because i had no money.

Now, i have all the parts...and I have the time.....
I'm going to do it all over the next couple of days, and then go to WIM.
I see nothing wrong with that statement.

As for the shocks...that's personal preference as far as i'm concerned. These springs are designed to work with standard shocks and as such the choice is mine. I may well experience a slightly harsh ride, but if my shocks are ok, then i see no reason to spend even more money.
 :-?
The point of my post athough addressed to you, was intended to open the conversation for the op, which you kindly did so there after.

Although arguably its not wise to lower more than 30 mill(some would say 15 max) the actual ride hight is not really relevant in the scheme of things, as the car needs setting up correctly after fitting as you say. If not set correctly, the car will handle terribly and destroy tyres in a 1/4 of their intended life.

This, although addressed to your good self, is written for the benefit of the op. I hope you understand. ;)
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:23:33
Yes chris,
and i apologise to you actually, because that was rather snappy of me.

I initially thought you were commenting on my other lowering springs thread that i posted at a similar time to this one. Bit of confusion, thinking you were denouncing my lack of shocks, preparation or something.

I was just reacting being told something I already knew...but like you say, this is not my topic. And the OP is the intended helpeeeeeeee here.

So,.....

sorry bout that. I know we all have the right intentions at heart.....it's just when you said "Someone explain, I'm beginning to think its just me!"......riled me up a bit lol
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 17:30:09
i found with my calibra, it helped to have the correct size tyres fitted for the car, otherwise the inside of the tyre just gets torn to shreds...

not that i mind to much as i can get tyres fairly cheap :)
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:32:08
yes that certainly does help lol.
Last thing you want i rubbing or scoring on the tyre.

the omega is bad enough at chewing through insides of front tyres purely because of the wishbone bushes failing over time.

Wouldn't want to complicate it lol
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 17:34:58
so is there no adjustment for the rear then? as mine are probably going to be off by a mile, im going to lower it -40mm.....
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:39:26
I dont think so.
There is toe adjustment on the rears, but I might be right in thinking there is no direct camber adjustment on the rears.....

Mine i going to be lowered 35mm. Not sure how bad that will affect rear camber tbh.
Like i said, it looks like its too negative now. but i have no uneven wear....so who knows.
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 17:42:04
stick another 10psi in the rear tyres so they dont wear on the shoulder  ;D

joking, dont do that lol
Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: o-meg-a on 23 May 2011, 17:44:55
well i run my estate loaded with equipment in the boot, on the motorway most days, so they are already on 40psi.

Another 10 might be a tad too much lol.

Title: Re: any guides on lowering?
Post by: mr carl on 23 May 2011, 17:47:28
haha awesome, yeah i think they may just burst  :D