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Title: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 10:46:21
Not ready for number plate filler yet, so thinking of fitting the filler to the tow bar for now.

Simple enough, but what do people use as a bracket? And I guess no cable ties allowed for the fuel pipe?
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 10:48:12
Should add it's a Kevin Wood style tow bar with square metal work under the petrol tank. Not a swan neck type.
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 May 2011, 11:00:50
I've got one of these from Teilo (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tow-Bar-LPG-Towbar-Mounting-Bracket-70mm-Filler-Pot-/250632635136?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5ade8300), but can't remember if yours has the "flange" type fixed towbar

As for cable ties... Fine as an addition to the proper clips but won't pass an inspection if the proper clips aren't fitted (at a maximum of 60cm apart) :y
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: tunnie on 23 May 2011, 11:09:19
you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 May 2011, 11:09:36
That's exactly the bracket that I was supplied with.

I used metal P clips with rubber cushioning to secure the pipe along the side of the tow bar.

Kevin
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 May 2011, 11:12:17
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you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D

1 LPG pump at the local garage. Choice of 2 fillers, one on either side of it.

One side is always taken up with some cretin filling up his tractor (why not use one of the other 19 diesel pumps?) then doing his weekly shop in the M&S attached to the garage.

Why would I want to limit myself to using only one of those pumps?
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 11:40:26
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you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D

1 LPG pump at the local garage. Choice of 2 fillers, one on either side of it.

One side is always taken up with some cretin filling up his tractor (why not use one of the other 19 diesel pumps?) then doing his weekly shop in the M&S attached to the garage.

Why would I want to limit myself to using only one of those pumps?
Best place from a mobility point of view is in the wing as it's higher surely? Not the bumper which is lower! Or the tow bar which is lower still....
So Twiglet the stick boy Tunnie is more unable than the rest of us on bending down to fillers and has also limited himself to pumps available as said. Bloody students, two seconds out of collage and they think they know it all. ;D :P
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 11:41:57
Thanks guys. Simple enough. :y
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: tunnie on 23 May 2011, 12:34:47
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you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D

1 LPG pump at the local garage. Choice of 2 fillers, one on either side of it.

One side is always taken up with some cretin filling up his tractor (why not use one of the other 19 diesel pumps?) then doing his weekly shop in the M&S attached to the garage.

Why would I want to limit myself to using only one of those pumps?
Best place from a mobility point of view is in the wing as it's higher surely? Not the bumper which is lower! Or the tow bar which is lower still....
So Twiglet the stick boy Tunnie is more unable than the rest of us on bending down to fillers and has also limited himself to pumps available as said. Bloody students, two seconds out of collage and they think they know it all. ;D :P

My car has a reverse gear  :P :P

Asda is full of idiots anyway, I maintain I could not pull far enough forward to make number plate pump work.

9/10 I fill up ok, if other one is free, i'll just spin it around and back in  :)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 12:55:24
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you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D

1 LPG pump at the local garage. Choice of 2 fillers, one on either side of it.

One side is always taken up with some cretin filling up his tractor (why not use one of the other 19 diesel pumps?) then doing his weekly shop in the M&S attached to the garage.

Why would I want to limit myself to using only one of those pumps?
Best place from a mobility point of view is in the wing as it's higher surely? Not the bumper which is lower! Or the tow bar which is lower still....
So Twiglet the stick boy Tunnie is more unable than the rest of us on bending down to fillers and has also limited himself to pumps available as said. Bloody students, two seconds out of collage and they think they know it all. ;D :P

My car has a reverse gear  :P :P

Asda is full of idiots anyway, I maintain I could not pull far enough forward to make number plate pump work.

9/10 I fill up ok, if other one is free, i'll just spin it around and back in  :)
If you'd done the job properly you wouldn't have to. :)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: tunnie on 23 May 2011, 12:58:44
Too much of a faf making those number plate things, I would have more issues with it. BP for example there is always some idiot in there doing their weekly shop, leaving car at the pump. Nose of my 2.2 almost touching bumper, still only just reached my filler.
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: TheBoy on 23 May 2011, 19:39:53
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you all know the near side rear bumper is the best place  ::) ....... no wait your all to fat, too old or crippled  :P :P :P  ;D ;D  :D

1 LPG pump at the local garage. Choice of 2 fillers, one on either side of it.

One side is always taken up with some cretin filling up his tractor (why not use one of the other 19 diesel pumps?) then doing his weekly shop in the M&S attached to the garage.

Why would I want to limit myself to using only one of those pumps?
Best place from a mobility point of view is in the wing as it's higher surely? Not the bumper which is lower! Or the tow bar which is lower still....
So Twiglet the stick boy Tunnie is more unable than the rest of us on bending down to fillers and has also limited himself to pumps available as said. Bloody students, two seconds out of collage and they think they know it all. ;D :P

My car has a reverse gear  :P :P

Asda is full of idiots anyway, I maintain I could not pull far enough forward to make number plate pump work.

9/10 I fill up ok, if other one is free, i'll just spin it around and back in  :)
I don't have that problem every time I use High Wycombe Asda. I do, though, have the choice of either pump ;)

IME, at Asda, no option to turn around, given that there is normally a rather great queue ;)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Broomies Mate on 23 May 2011, 19:44:38
Do LPG pumps have a much shorter hose than 'standard' fuel pumps then?

I can easily get the vast majority of standard pumps to reach either side of the car.

As you probably guessed, I'm not an LPG'er (yet).
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: TheBoy on 23 May 2011, 19:48:16
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Do LPG pumps have a much shorter hose than 'standard' fuel pumps then?

I can easily get the vast majority of standard pumps to reach either side of the car.

As you probably guessed, I'm not an LPG'er (yet).
Generally, yes
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 23 May 2011, 20:10:44
Given LPG fillers lock on, I presume they have to make provision for people forgetting and driving off with nozel attached, hence they nail the filler fuel line to the ground or fit a lanyard half way along the pump hose. All that means is the pump rips out if the car before the car rips the gas line out of the pump, going by the ones round here.

Result is shorter pump hose anyway, because of the tether ad I understand it.  :-/
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2011, 00:03:07
LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 May 2011, 19:35:37
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 May 2011, 19:43:17
When I was considering (Well I still am really!) LPG on my V6 I visted two local suppliers that allow you to have an account with them. No forecourt queues, just drive down the farm track!

Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 24 May 2011, 22:19:31
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When I was considering (Well I still am really!) LPG on my V6 I visted two local suppliers that allow you to have an account with them. No forecourt queues, just drive down the farm track!

Yeah, trying to find somewhere like that round here. No luck. :-/
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: TheBoy on 25 May 2011, 19:05:07
There is a Countrywide outlet in Chav Central (Banbury). Anyone know Countrywide's price?
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Entwood on 25 May 2011, 20:53:01
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There is a Countrywide outlet in Chav Central (Banbury). Anyone know Countrywide's price?

I'm presently paying 73.92p (inc VAT) a litre.

Local Shell was 77.9p last time I checked

Thats in Swidnod ...
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: feeutfo on 25 May 2011, 21:08:28
Country wide. But only covers quarter of the country... Smart!
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Lazydocker on 25 May 2011, 21:57:15
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Country wide. But only covers quarter of the country... Smart!

Indeed... Although, if I'm going to be going to Newent I may well sort and account with them ;) :y
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 May 2011, 10:08:40
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 May 2011, 11:36:06
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)


Last year Calor :-[
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 May 2011, 11:51:01
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)


Last year Calor :-[

Still don't really understand how anyone manages to do that ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 May 2011, 12:15:31
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)


Last year Calor :-[

I'm guessing you know about it when it happens. ;D One of those hoses must hold quite a bit of liquid?

Kevin
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 May 2011, 14:06:38
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)


Last year Calor :-[

Still don't really understand how anyone manages to do that ::) ::)


1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 May 2011, 14:07:03
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LPG filler hoses have a weak link a few inches before they attach to the pump itself, so most of the pipe comes off if you drive away with it attached.. apparently.

It's the stupid bits of retracting cord that are a major PITA, and always too short.  >:( (until they break off due to people yanking on them).

Still, all pumps I use reach my towbar from either side, and if I do manage to drive off with it attached, the bumper won't get left behind. Neither will the towbar. ;)

Kevin


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Didn't go to Fleet yesterday, did you, Martin?

Went to fill up and found one of the pumps had the pipe in 2 halves. ::)


Last year Calor :-[

I'm guessing you know about it when it happens. ;D One of those hoses must hold quite a bit of liquid?

Kevin


Not that loud suprisingly.
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: TheBoy on 26 May 2011, 20:36:00
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1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Why didn't you uncouple once you finished fuelling  :-/. Strikes me as daft not to... ...you wouldn't leave the petrol pump in your filler when you went to pay  :-/
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 May 2011, 20:41:26
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1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Why didn't you uncouple once you finished fuelling  :-/. Strikes me as daft not to... ...you wouldn't leave the petrol pump in your filler when you went to pay  :-/

Glad I'm not the only one that's still confused how it can be done ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 May 2011, 12:19:30
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1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Why didn't you uncouple once you finished fuelling  :-/. Strikes me as daft not to... ...you wouldn't leave the petrol pump in your filler when you went to pay  :-/


I was distracted and forgot

Don't use it anymore as it cannot fill a tank
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2011, 13:54:02
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1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Why didn't you uncouple once you finished fuelling  :-/. Strikes me as daft not to... ...you wouldn't leave the petrol pump in your filler when you went to pay  :-/


I was distracted and forgot

Don't use it anymore as it cannot fill a tank
Surely, that point when you release the dead mans handle, you must think the next task is to remove the hose  :-/
Title: Re: Tow bar mounted LPG filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 May 2011, 15:14:27
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1) Barrier between pump and car, can be awkwards to couple up
2) Have to trek quite a way to pay and back
3) Then forget
Why didn't you uncouple once you finished fuelling  :-/. Strikes me as daft not to... ...you wouldn't leave the petrol pump in your filler when you went to pay  :-/


I was distracted and forgot

Don't use it anymore as it cannot fill a tank
Surely, that point when you release the dead mans handle, you must think the next task is to remove the hose  :-/


Which is a walk around the barrier towards the office.

Yes it happens more there than a normal filling station