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Title: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 June 2011, 13:48:15
Has anyone here, done this LPG conversion????

This Omega is for sale on ebay, conversion looks like some effort has gone into it!! Nice towbar filler, tidy engine bay work.... looks like the stag/valtek setup

Note - I don't know or have any connections with the car - just stumbled upon it!


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ELITE-3-0-V6-AUTO-BLUE-LPG-/260797116534?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cb8b83076

Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 June 2011, 13:59:21
Plumbing to the LPG tank is a bit of a mess!

Still, that'd be easily sorted.

Kevin
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2011, 14:06:30
suprised how exposed that polyfex is on the filler, its hanging down quite a bit. Thought regulations say it should be secured every x amount of cm?

Still fairly respectable install that, although I would have gone donut route.
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 June 2011, 14:43:54
It's not polyflex... It's a JIC hose ;) Oh, and the regulation is every 600mm :o :o

Not the tidiest installation I've seen but not the worst by a long shot ;) ;)

I like the "Heat Shield" on the vapour lines by the EGR ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: henryd on 09 June 2011, 15:10:53
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suprised how exposed that polyfex is on the filler, its hanging down quite a bit. Thought regulations say it should be secured every x amount of cm?

Still fairly respectable install that, although I would have gone donut route.

Me too,don't see the point of having a big estate car and plonking a tank in the middle of the load area
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2011, 15:12:23
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suprised how exposed that polyfex is on the filler, its hanging down quite a bit. Thought regulations say it should be secured every x amount of cm?

Still fairly respectable install that, although I would have gone donut route.

Me too,don't see the point of having a big estate car and plonking a tank in the middle of the load area

Yeah it really compromises an Estate, more so than Saloon.
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Andy B on 09 June 2011, 16:00:31
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.... although I would have gone donut route.

Agreed. The present tank somewhat defeats the whole point in having an estate.  :-?
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2011, 16:46:20
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.... although I would have gone donut route.

Agreed. The present tank somewhat defeats the whole point in having an estate.  :-?

Uh-uh, we should not agree  :o  ;D

But yeah, in a Saloon it just means lost boot space, but with an Estate, seats down that huge load bay will be lost :(
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Entwood on 09 June 2011, 16:54:27
The "converter" may have been in the position that he always used the rear seats .... couple of kids maybe ?? and so fitted the large tank for economy reasons ... he still has a far bigger load space left than the saloon + lpg tank has....

Just 'cos you "wouldn't" do it .. does not make it "wrong" .. there are many different reasons for doing things differently ...

As we don't know his reasons, it is unfair to criticise...

Vive la difference

:)
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 June 2011, 17:01:47
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The "converter" may have been in the position that he always used the rear seats .... couple of kids maybe ?? and so fitted the large tank for economy reasons ... he still has a far bigger load space left than the saloon + lpg tank has....

Just 'cos you "wouldn't" do it .. does not make it "wrong" .. there are many different reasons for doing things differently ...

As we don't know his reasons, it is unfair to criticise...

Vive la difference

:)

I agree Nige, it's not "wrong"... But I don't really see the point in fitting a cylinder in the boot of an estate, hence the toroidal in my new car ;)

Mind you, that cylinder will give a good range (looks like a 100L tank) and I've only managed to get a 76L in the wheel well, including raising the boot floor enough that I've probably lost the same capacity from the boot, but still have the facility to load through :y :y
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Andy B on 09 June 2011, 19:17:28
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Uh-uh, we should not agree  :o  ;D ...

I did think that as I typed ........  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Plomien on 09 June 2011, 19:40:46
I would have gone for the donut style rather than that tank. the whole point of an estate would be more storage space. but I would think with the piping already there it should be an easy convert. (but prepares to be corrected)
btw nudge james read your PMs
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: kevb on 09 June 2011, 23:43:25
doesnt say if there is any paperwork relating to the installment of the lpg system also i thought there had to be some sort of certificate to go with it
all the other paperwork is mentioned/photographed
i may 100% wrong on this but was the case a few years ago on after market installs
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 June 2011, 01:40:44
Certificates/registration of LPG are not and never have been a legal requirement but some insurance companies require it ;)
Title: Re: Anyone here? DIY LPG on Estate?
Post by: feeutfo on 10 June 2011, 02:10:58
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doesnt say if there is any paperwork relating to the installment of the lpg system also i thought there had to be some sort of certificate to go with it
all the other paperwork is mentioned/photographed
i may 100% wrong on this but was the case a few years ago on after market installs
There is a a whole lot of bs and hoarse crap around all that.
Approved installers have to supply an LPGA certificate. LPGA being the driving force behind a jobs for the boys approach from the industry generally. Its a bit of a stitch up, claiming that diy installs are dangerous and should be legislated out of existence on safety grounds. Which all very conveniently works in the LPGA,'s favor. More work for them.
 But the laugh of it is most LPGA approved installs we see on here could have been done more professionally down the local zoo, and when diy installs are presented for safety certs(insurance requirement only) take a hard line overly fussy view on order to appear superior. Now we all make mistakes.  ::) but I've yet to see too many of these overly fussy faults make a blind bit of difference in practical terms.
  Yes there should be some regulation, but these guys need to look in the mirror before looking under a bonnet in most cases.
 Although to be fair, on diy installs, it is Gas, which is not to be messed with and these guys sign their name to our work, it's their lively hood, and our blood on their hands if it goes wrong. It has to be right, and if there's an issue I want to know about it.  :y