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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 28 July 2011, 20:44:09
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Tonight on an empty dual carriageway i had just joined from a roundabout, i had a T plate 328 tailgaiting very close. I thought 'we'll soon sort you out' and hit the sport mode.
I am gutted to say that from 30 to 80mph (at which point i levelled off my speed) the BMW stuck to my bumper like glue, easily gaining on me before speeding off into the distance, grinning, like i was stood still :(
maybe she is still not running at full potential. I need to drive another and compare.
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you hit the sport mode, so I guess yours is auto..
an 328 manual (193 hp as stock E36, E46 ) easily beat 330 auto (231 hp as stock E46).. so no worries imo..
also it can be modded in every way.. so dont think you are slow :y
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I agree you're being overly harsh on the mig if you had said 318 yes then you would have reason to worry.
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The Omega is also quite a bit heavier bear that in mind, auto box slows it down some, and 328i's were very quick in their day and still are, but a 3.2 manual would've been a different story :y
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328 E46
Auto 0-60 6.9 and quarter mile 15.2.
manual 0-60 6.2 and quarter mile 14.7
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328 E46
Auto 0-60 6.9 and quarter mile 15.2.
manual 0-60 6.2 and quarter mile 14.7
Didnt realise they were as quick as that. was thinking around the 7 second mark for the manual.
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According to BMW the 328i was 6.8 for the manual and 7.8 for the auto :-?
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According to BMW the 328i was 6.8 for the manual and 7.8 for the auto :-?
there are various resources on the net.. but I know they are well below 7 secs.. as one mechanic friend buys and sells them frequently..
ps : also specs change according to region due to emission standards etc..
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Yeah, a manual 328 should beat an auto 3.2 Omega.
As well as the loses in the autobox, for a wide speed range, the auto gears are too long for those sorts of silly beggers.
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Yeah, a manual 328 should beat an auto 3.2 Omega.
As well as the loses in the autobox, for a wide speed range, the auto gears are too long for those sorts of silly beggers.
yep.. but a manual 3.2 with some mods!! can really surprise people.. :)
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Shame the Omega never had a 5 speed auto fitted really, would've made a hell of a difference :(
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Shame the Omega never had a 5 speed auto fitted really, would've made a hell of a difference :(
not with a gm autobox thats sure.. but if its from ZF things will be really diferent imo..
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Yeah, a manual 328 should beat an auto 3.2 Omega.
As well as the loses in the autobox, for a wide speed range, the auto gears are too long for those sorts of silly beggers.
yep.. but a manual 3.2 with some mods!! can really surprise people.. :)
Yeah, the plod ones, esp with LSD (lowers gearing) is a hell of a beast for acceleration, if you can keep traction, and don't destroy the clutch in the process...
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Tonight on an empty dual carriageway i had just joined from a roundabout, i had a T plate 328 tailgaiting very close. I thought 'we'll soon sort you out' and hit the sport mode.
I am gutted to say that from 30 to 80mph (at which point i levelled off my speed) the BMW stuck to my bumper like glue, easily gaining on me before speeding off into the distance, grinning, like i was stood still :(
maybe she is still not running at full potential. I need to drive another and compare.
On a T plate would make it an E36 328.
Back in the day my mate had a E36 325 convertible, and that went the the proverbial!!! I'd be surprised if even a manual 3.2 mig would keep pace with a 328! :-/
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e36 328i its faster then omega 3.2 manual
not much but faster
328 - 1250kgs , 192ph and 280nm
0mega 3.2 - 1700kgs, 218ps and 290nm
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Yeah, the plod ones, esp with LSD (lowers gearing) is a hell of a beast for acceleration, if you can keep traction, and don't destroy the clutch in the process...
;D
Hardest part is changing gear smoothly and quickly enough to keep the momentum going. ::) Like me, it really doesn't like being rushed through the gears.
Have found mine swift enough to make motorbicyclists take a second look. :-X
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Tonight on an empty dual carriageway i had just joined from a roundabout, i had a T plate 328 tailgaiting very close. I thought 'we'll soon sort you out' and hit the sport mode.
I am gutted to say that from 30 to 80mph (at which point i levelled off my speed) the BMW stuck to my bumper like glue, easily gaining on me before speeding off into the distance, grinning, like i was stood still :(
maybe she is still not running at full potential. I need to drive another and compare.
On a T plate would make it an E36 328.
Back in the day my mate had a E36 325 convertible, and that went the the proverbial!!! I'd be surprised if even a manual 3.2 mig would keep pace with a 328! :-/
T plate would more than likely be an E46, they were introduced on an S plate.
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Yeah, the plod ones, esp with LSD (lowers gearing) is a hell of a beast for acceleration, if you can keep traction, and don't destroy the clutch in the process...
;D
Hardest part is changing gear smoothly and quickly enough to keep the momentum going. ::) Like me, it really doesn't like being rushed through the gears.
Have found mine swift enough to make motorbicyclists take a second look. :-X
I did that once with a motorbike in my 3.0 MV6 ex plodder, he was so stunned that I was still with him at 120 (km/h) of course ;)
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An e46 330ci convertible tried it on with me for a series of traffic light dashes. He didn't get in front which pleased me :)
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Yeah, a manual 328 should beat an auto 3.2 Omega.
As well as the loses in the autobox, for a wide speed range, the auto gears are too long for those sorts of silly beggers.
yep.. but a manual 3.2 with some mods!! can really surprise people.. :)
Yeah, the plod ones, esp with LSD (lowers gearing) is a hell of a beast for acceleration, if you can keep traction, and don't destroy the clutch in the process...
L.O.L i remeber when i was working for l.a.s as a trainee paramedic they had two plod spec omegas and clutches used to give up at an amazing rate... :y
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Tonight on an empty dual carriageway i had just joined from a roundabout, i had a T plate 328 tailgaiting very close. I thought 'we'll soon sort you out' and hit the sport mode.
I am gutted to say that from 30 to 80mph (at which point i levelled off my speed) the BMW stuck to my bumper like glue, easily gaining on me before speeding off into the distance, grinning, like i was stood still :(
maybe she is still not running at full potential. I need to drive another and compare.
On a T plate would make it an E36 328.
Back in the day my mate had a E36 325 convertible, and that went the the proverbial!!! I'd be surprised if even a manual 3.2 mig would keep pace with a 328! :-/
T plate would more than likely be an E46, they were introduced on an S plate.
If its a coupe could most likely be a E36 as they went upto V plates, but if saloon/estate than most probably be E46 :y
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I like to think of my mig as a luxury car not a racing car! :-*
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I like to think of my mig as a luxury car not a racing car! :-*
its not a racing car definitely,
but may give some lessons to boy racers :y
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Don't feel bad about it James. I had an E36 328i Coupe for 3 months while i still had the Beastie. It was an impulse buy, sold it 3 months later & re insured the Beastie but i'm loathe to admit they will out accelerate a V6 Mig on low & mid range pull..they are pretty frickin' quick. I took it to one of the Chester day meets so some of you will have seen it.
Having owned both at the same time i reckon the Mig would have longer legs but you'd have to reach silly speeds to find out!!! Guy. :y
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Yup the E36 will be half a tonne lighter.
Also there you can fit the inlet manifold from a 325i which gives another 20bhp iirc.
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hi guys,
been reading this thread with interest.
i dont normally race but one night i came up to a red light next to a passat. long straight ahead. we burnt off and neither of us got away. it was exactly the same. i have no idea what spec or engine he'd got.
however, the 0-60 time on my 2.5 v6 is 9.5 as it's auto. so that begs the question: what can my car beat?????
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hi guys,
been reading this thread with interest.
i dont normally race but one night i came up to a red light next to a passat. long straight ahead. we burnt off and neither of us got away. it was exactly the same. i have no idea what spec or engine he'd got.
however, the 0-60 time on my 2.5 v6 is 9.5 as it's auto. so that begs the question: what can my car beat?????
A lot and remember, the Miggy will be a lot better top end that many things. My Astra Van for example rapid and it hits 136 MPH with absolute ease, but it's limited (only due to tyres) the limiter will be removed soon though. The thing is, things have moved on so much in the past few years, the 2.5 V6 in an Omega has 170 BHP IIRC, my Astra Van emphasise the word van there has 185 BHP as standard (remapped from the factory), it then has a custom exhaust system and it's rolling roaded at 205.7 BHP thats a 1.9 4 pot diesel! Then there's the beemer, 0-62 in 7.9 seconds two tonne of car with a 3.0 diesel with 231 bhp. Things these days are just leaps and bounds ahead of what stuff was back in the 90's.
You think today the equivalent of a 90's 328i (193 BHP) is a 330i which is pushing out 272 BHP now, that's just a bog standard 3.0 N/A engine. The next Astra VXR promises to have 295 BHP, that's more than any Omega ever had, and the Omega was Vauxhall's flagship.
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hi guys,
been reading this thread with interest.
i dont normally race but one night i came up to a red light next to a passat. long straight ahead. we burnt off and neither of us got away. it was exactly the same. i have no idea what spec or engine he'd got.
however, the 0-60 time on my 2.5 v6 is 9.5 as it's auto. so that begs the question: what can my car beat?????
convert to manual use auto diff mod slightly list will get longer
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Ive got an ex plod with the LSD and various other Mods, compared to my previous MV6 manual the accelaration is blistering - It surprises a variety of much more exotic machinery
I still get the odd Corsa/Saxo trying it but tend not to bother with them - dont want to embarrase them infront of their girlfriends ;D ;D ;D :y
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Ive got an ex plod with the LSD and various other Mods, compared to my previous MV6 manual the accelaration is blistering - It surprises a variety of much more exotic machinery
I still get the odd Corsa/Saxo trying it but tend not to bother with them - dont want to embarrase them infront of their girlfriends ;D ;D ;D :y
I did once upset a body kitted up Punto off the lights on the way home from an OOFMEET in the Beastie (3.0 manual MV6) No surprise you might say, an easy fight but i had the caravan on the back & still creamed him!!!! 8-) ;D
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Ive got an ex plod with the LSD and various other Mods, compared to my previous MV6 manual the accelaration is blistering - It surprises a variety of much more exotic machinery
I still get the odd Corsa/Saxo trying it but tend not to bother with them - dont want to embarrase them infront of their girlfriends ;D ;D ;D :y
I did once upset a body kitted up Punto off the lights on the way home from an OOFMEET in the Beastie (3.0 manual MV6) No surprise you might say, an easy fight but i had the caravan on the back & still creamed him!!!! 8-) ;D
I've done the same with an 8m long glider trailer on the back. Lots of time for reflection as you sit there watching that lot going past. ;D
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Ive got an ex plod with the LSD and various other Mods, compared to my previous MV6 manual the accelaration is blistering - It surprises a variety of much more exotic machinery
I still get the odd Corsa/Saxo trying it but tend not to bother with them - dont want to embarrase them infront of their girlfriends ;D ;D ;D :y
I did once upset a body kitted up Punto off the lights on the way home from an OOFMEET in the Beastie (3.0 manual MV6) No surprise you might say, an easy fight but i had the caravan on the back & still creamed him!!!! 8-) ;D
I've done similar a couple of times on the roundabouts near me ::) ;D
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I did a Scenic while towing and he was trying ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I did a c70 t5 on the a19!! Must've been a crap driver though as my old t5=fast!
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I did a c70 t5 on the a19!! Must've been a crap driver though as my old t5=fast!
I would have to say, it had to be a crap driver. T5's are stupidly quick.
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Top & Tail of it the Omega is not a sports car.......
If you want something to beat people off the lights get yourself a westfield or something similar
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Top & Tail of it the Omega is not a sports car.......
If you want something to beat people off the lights get yourself a westfield or something similar
Or an MX5!!! A good V6 Mig can still hold it' own though. :y
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Or a motorbike.Anything over 4 seconds 0-60 is considered very slow on two wheels.
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Top & Tail of it the Omega is not a sports car.......
If you want something to beat people off the lights get yourself a westfield or something similar
Or an MX5!!! A good V6 Mig can still hold it' own though. :y
Got to admit, I'd love a Ariel Atom ( supercharged ) as a play thing :y ;D
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Top & Tail of it the Omega is not a sports car.......
If you want something to beat people off the lights get yourself a westfield or something similar
Or an MX5!!! A good V6 Mig can still hold it' own though. :y
you mr amigo are absolutely spot on. i drove an mx5 in texas (ironically......and ironically manual) and it was a dream to drop a gear and fly. absolutely loved it :)
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did a c70 t5 on the a19!! Must've been a crap driver though as my old t5=fast!
I would have to say, it had to be a crap driver. T5's are stupidly quick.
Not stupidly quick, especially not on bends either, lots of body roll, crash and bang, not confidence inspiring at all.
Even with the suspension on my walllowy Elite, I find it is very forgiving and absorbing. I can accelerate foot flat flat to the floor around most bends, and exiting roundabouts, and still maintain control, not like a T5.
T5s aren't that quick above 80-90 either. I think my Elite is faster. :y
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Or a motorbike.Anything over 4 seconds 0-60 is considered very slow on two wheels.
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did a c70 t5 on the a19!! Must've been a crap driver though as my old t5=fast!
I would have to say, it had to be a crap driver. T5's are stupidly quick.
Not stupidly quick, especially not on bends either, lots of body roll, crash and bang, not confidence inspiring at all.
Even with the suspension on my walllowy Elite, I find it is very forgiving and absorbing. I can accelerate foot flat flat to the floor around most bends, and exiting roundabouts, and still maintain control, not like a T5.
T5s aren't that quick above 80-90 either. I think my Elite is faster. :y
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They're not good in corners totally agree, but I honestly think a T5 would easily out accelerate an Omega at any speed, and Miggys are very fast :y
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Or a motorbike.Anything over 4 seconds 0-60 is considered very slow on two wheels.
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e36 328i its faster then omega 3.2 manual
not much but faster
328 - 1250kgs , 192ph and 280nm
0mega 3.2 - 1700kgs, 218ps and 290nm
It is indeed the weight thing|!
Remember the Carlton GSi 24v - that was only about 1300kg and had 204ps and would do about 6.3 seconds - what power does a 1700kg mig need to get down to that sort of figure. (granted the carlton was 5spd manual).
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e36 328i its faster then omega 3.2 manual
not much but faster
328 - 1250kgs , 192ph and 280nm
0mega 3.2 - 1700kgs, 218ps and 290nm
It is indeed the weight thing|!
Remember the Carlton GSi 24v - that was only about 1300kg and had 204ps and would do about 6.3 seconds - what power does a 1700kg mig need to get down to that sort of figure. (granted the carlton was 5spd manual).
think will need more then 250bhp :y