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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Del Boy on 19 August 2011, 19:37:09
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Been having a little drive of my dads Corsa SE the past couple of days, the 1.3 CDTi Start/Stop model it is, very good little engine, and the car itself is pure class really is, has everything anyone could need, heated seats, half leather trim, heated steering wheel, MP3 CD Player, AUX input, auto lights, wipers, very comfortable for little car too! Average MPG is 55 MPG, and as it's not even run in yet, so that'll be class when it's all loosened up nicely.
One thing I don't like is this Start/Stop malarky, it's so odd it's unreal, out of gear into neutal it conks out, dip the clutch and it starts back up, now as I've been driving since 1986, this is too odd for my liking and I always turn it off (which is good that you can), but I think things are changing too much just for emissions anyone else agree on that :-?
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i think with all this stop ,start stuff could be acidents waiting to happen with people not use to it and some ting else to go wrong,if goes wrong and does not work in the middle of nowhere stranded :( :( :(
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Yes, does stop /start (don't know much about it me) not put extra strain on the battery/starter etc. Could it not shorten the life of the cats potentially? Can you disable it if the battery is low on charge so you don't get stranded? Does it work for automatics?
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many cars will stop at the lights and and wont go any more ;D and we will need to push >:(
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many cars will stop at the lights and and wont go any more ;D and we will need to push >:(
totally agree a lot of people will be stranded with a dud one the does not work :( :( :(
i don't see the point of all this stop start stuff it's just absulotely stupid, dam eco friendly save the planet cars >:( >:( >:(
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many cars will stop at the lights and and wont go any more ;D and we will need to push >:(
totally agree a lot of people will be stranded with a dud one the does not work :( :( :(
i don't see the point of all this stop start stuff it's just absulotely stupid, dam eco friendly save the planet cars >:( >:( >:(
soon they will give up for that after customer complaints.. personally I wouldnt buy a car like that, or short it out as soon as I buy.. ;D
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Yes, does stop /start (don't know much about it me) not put extra strain on the battery/starter etc. Could it not shorten the life of the cats potentially? Can you disable it if the battery is low on charge so you don't get stranded? Does it work for automatics?
If the battery is low it won't conk out, when it's charged enough it'll start stopping if that makes sense ;D BMW have only just started putting it on the 520d automatic, so that's not widely available yet.
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see the goverment want you to save money eco friendly cars,but you'll spend more dam break down repairs,people should just buy pre 2001 cars and all pay the same tax,i think the new road tax system just takes the piss out of drivers
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i don't care how eco friendly a car is or mpg or road tax,i'll never drive about in some little shit box,the goverment will not tell me what to drive :y :y :y
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I think it all boils down to the fact that as a race we're using too much too soon and it can't be replaced. I'm makng the most of my v6 beasts before we're all walking again.
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One thing I don't like is this Start/Stop malarky, it's so odd it's unreal, out of gear into neutal it conks out, dip the clutch and it starts back up, now as I've been driving since 1986, this is too odd for my liking and I always turn it off (which is good that you can)...............
I agree it does take some getting used to. I tend to switch it off like you, although it does actually work. I like to be 'ready to go' when the lights change and as you said, it goes against our driving style. ::) ::) :y ( Incidentally, what does come after Amber??? ) ::) ::) ;D ;D
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Yes, does stop /start (don't know much about it me) not put extra strain on the battery/starter etc. Could it not shorten the life of the cats potentially? Can you disable it if the battery is low on charge so you don't get stranded? Does it work for automatics?
Apparently so, not sure how, unless it is when you put it in neutral, as with a manual.... :-/ :-/
One of the cars I was enquiring about has this on it's auto, Pug 3008, however reading the Vx leaflets I picked up today seems to suggest that you can turn it off, apparently you get used to it, but that was from a young lad who has only been driving a few years...... ::) ::)
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I wonder if the way to turn it off is simple and straightforward so that the man in the street can do it without too much hassle. Why is all this crap forced upon us by people who think they know what's best for us and try to tell us what to do?
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I wonder if the way to turn it off is simple and straightforward so that the man in the street can do it without too much hassle. Why is all this crap forced upon us by people who think they know what's best for us and try to tell us what to do?
It really is simple to turn off. You just press a button on the dash (or by gearstick) and a light comes on to say it is de-activated. :y :y
It defaults to on again when you re-start the car.
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I want to see the face of driver when the button pops off ;D ;D ;D
or its stuck ;D
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Time to invest in starter motor refurb companies
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These systems will overide themselves based on a number of conditions such as:
1) Battery voltage low
2) Engine not at opertating temp
3) Outside air temp below a certain limit
4) Aircon on
Also, if the system has been cycled a number of times within a certain period, eg 10 times in 3 minutes - then it will also overide itself to avoid a flat battery.
The only reason these systems have caught on is that the official MPG tests have an idling period, if you can use zero fuel during that time then you will improve the test result.
Also, in some countries (Germany I think), it is mandatory to switch your engine off whilst stationary at a level crossing - hence these systems being introduced by the Germans initially as a selling point. I think that BMW were the first in 2007 with the 1 and 3 series.
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I wonder how long a car spends idling during it's life? I guess the boffins will have an average figure....
...or is this one of those stupid arithmetic exercises that never works out. Ex amount sat at the lights, ex amount warming up on the drive in winter while the owner has breakfast, ex amount sat at round abouts, ex amount sat waiting in traffic jams, ex amount sat waiting at level crossings, ex amount at pelicans crossings...
....ad it all up and and you get go drive the car for 10 mins then the car dies. :D
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Btw, do all new diesels have this particulate filter in the exhaust now? Dpf is it?
Pootle around town and the owner thinks the exhaust is going to catch fire... Or something? :-/
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Btw, do all new diesels have this particulate filter in the exhaust now? Dpf is it?
Pootle around town and the owner thinks the exhaust is going to catch fire... Or something? :-/
I'm pretty sure most do now, I know my Beemer has one, not that you really notice, other than when it's doing a DPF regen in which it'll produce a hell of a lot of heat, and smells like burning caramel. My van though for example doesn't have one.
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the new Colt i had in Portugal had it too, very disconcerting, sitting at a busy road trying to launch into 60mph flow, with the engine off ::)
I found the off button to stop it :)
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Had a mate of mine a bit red in the face when he hired an audi A4 that had this after 10 mins he took it back raging that the car they rented him was faulty,
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Had a mate of mine a bit red in the face when he hired an audi A4 that had this after 10 mins he took it back raging that the car they rented him was faulty,
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D FFS ;D
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but I think things are changing too much just for emissions anyone else agree on that :-?
the path forward for emissions is decided for us by a committee of the EU. (Cars 21 from memory). They dictate and we must follow - we don't have the legal right to disagree.
Cars 21 is currently studying an outright ban on the internal combustion engine
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I remember seeing the hamster moaning about stop/start on top gear a while back. He was driving a new Panamera Turbo!!
Can't really see the point of trying to reduce emmisions on a car like that! :-/ ::)
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but I think things are changing too much just for emissions anyone else agree on that :-?
the path forward for emissions is decided for us by a committee of the EU. (Cars 21 from memory). They dictate and we must follow - we don't have the legal right to disagree.
Cars 21 is currently studying an outright ban on the internal combustion engine
That's OK. Once they've banned vacuum cleaners we'll have plenty of spare motors kicking around for our electric cars. ::)
;)
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but I think things are changing too much just for emissions anyone else agree on that :-?
the path forward for emissions is decided for us by a committee of the EU. (Cars 21 from memory). They dictate and we must follow - we don't have the legal right to disagree.
Cars 21 is currently studying an outright ban on the internal combustion engine
Sounds rather stupid.
Which external combustion system do we use?
Old cars will be worth a fortune then
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but I think things are changing too much just for emissions anyone else agree on that :-?
the path forward for emissions is decided for us by a committee of the EU. (Cars 21 from memory). They dictate and we must follow - we don't have the legal right to disagree.
Cars 21 is currently studying an outright ban on the internal combustion engine
That's OK. Once they've banned vacuum cleaners we'll have plenty of spare motors kicking around for our electric cars. ::)
;)
Electric motors are too heavy and need too many batteries, 4 tons is too heavy for a decent motor
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This got me looking - and fell across 0-60 times of trains.
19 seconds 0-60
Electric loco 0-100 in under 1/2 minute, 18 seconds 0-60
Right bunch of nutters
All were just locos
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Stop/start technology is a complete waste of time! I had a Beemer courtesy car a while ago with stop/start - hated it and had to switch it off. Surely the factories that will need to turn out more batteries and starter motors will chuck out far more emmissions than what is saved by the engine going off for a few seconds. :-?
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the new Colt i had in Portugal had it too, very disconcerting, sitting at a busy road trying to launch into 60mph flow, with the engine off ::)
I found the off button to stop it :)
:-? :( thats a disaster..
and they call this engineering :o :-? :P bloody idiots!