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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: RobG on 24 August 2011, 16:08:08
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I know this has been covered before but............................
MOT expires Sept 27 `11. Just booked one for Aug 30th. Was told that if it fails on anything the car is then no longer legal to be on the road unless being taken for a pre-booked re-MOT or pre-booked repairs. Has the law changed recently????????????
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Original MOT is still valid unless it is rescinded by a prohibition notice, AFAIK.
You would be unwise to drive it if you had been informed that in the tester's opinion it was dangerous to drive, of course, but a valid MOT is still in force.
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Thing is, what offence could you be booked for?
If you were in court for "no mot" and you produced an MOT document covering you, then it would get squashed.
My understanding (which may not be right) is that you still have a valid MOT until the ticket expires
If, during the new test, they class something as dangerous then yes, you would probably commit an offence in driving it, but, that would still be unrelated to any "driving without MOT offences"
I am sure it's OK, but honest answer is I don't rightly know!
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Rob,
Check these out
http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9QX_tFlVOyh8AIxBLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OHI0M2tvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyZAR2dGlkA1NNRVVLMDRfNzY-/SIG=124fupj32/EXP=1314228077/**http%3a//www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/
Not sure if the information helps? :y
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Thing is, what offence could you be booked for?
If you were in court for "no mot" and you produced an MOT document covering you, then it would get squashed.
My understanding (which may not be right) is that you still have a valid MOT until the ticket expires
If, during the new test, they class something as dangerous then yes, you would probably commit an offence in driving it, but, that would still be unrelated to any "driving without MOT offences"
I am sure it's OK, but honest answer is I don't rightly know!
According to the MOT tester (manager) a fail invalidates your existing MOT. New one on me :-/
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Thing is, what offence could you be booked for?
If you were in court for "no mot" and you produced an MOT document covering you, then it would get squashed.
My understanding (which may not be right) is that you still have a valid MOT until the ticket expires
If, during the new test, they class something as dangerous then yes, you would probably commit an offence in driving it, but, that would still be unrelated to any "driving without MOT offences"
I am sure it's OK, but honest answer is I don't rightly know!
According to the MOT tester (manager) a fail invalidates your existing MOT. New one on me :-/
Personally I think he is talking the brown smelly stuff. Unless it gets a dangerous prohibition notice then you can still drive it until the end of the MOT Cert :y
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Personally I think he is talking the brown smelly stuff. Unless it gets a dangerous prohibition notice then you can still drive it until the end of the MOT Cert :y
Indeed. There's an element of "he would say that, wouldn't he?" about it, too. If you can't drive it away after a failed test who is going to get the business repairing the faults that they will no doubt uncover? :-?
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Thing is, what offence could you be booked for?
If you were in court for "no mot" and you produced an MOT document covering you, then it would get squashed.
My understanding (which may not be right) is that you still have a valid MOT until the ticket expires
If, during the new test, they class something as dangerous then yes, you would probably commit an offence in driving it, but, that would still be unrelated to any "driving without MOT offences"
I am sure it's OK, but honest answer is I don't rightly know!
According to the MOT tester (manager) a fail invalidates your existing MOT. New one on me :-/
Personally I think he is talking the brown smelly stuff. Unless it gets a dangerous prohibition notice then you can still drive it until the end of the MOT Cert :y
That`s what I thought G, but then you have a grey area whereby if you get a pull by the plod you may be in possession of a "valid" MOT which expires within the month but the computer records will show the plod that the car is registered as an MOT failure. Therein lies the dilemma
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Personally I think he is talking the brown smelly stuff. Unless it gets a dangerous prohibition notice then you can still drive it until the end of the MOT Cert :y
Indeed. There's an element of "he would say that, wouldn't he?" about it, too. If you can't drive it away after a failed test who is going to get the business repairing the faults that they will no doubt uncover? :-?
Thats one thing they have right in France. Garages cannot do MOTs and MOT centers cannot do repairs, it makes it a lot more fair :y
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http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9QX_tFlVOyh8AIxBLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OHI0M2tvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyZAR2dGlkA1NNRVVLMDRfNzY-/SIG=124fupj32/EXP=1314228077/**http%3a//www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/
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Its the whole point of the 13 month MOT..
you have a month in which to produce the car for MOT
Rectify any faults,
Retest
all while the old MOT remains valid.
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It is a grey area and open to interpretation. I guess it would depend on the copper that stopped you. Yet I reckon if it went to trial it would get qwashed due to the contradictory rules
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For what it is worth, my local MoT tester told me that he has asked this question and received conflicting answers from those who are supposed to know.
But his take on the issue agrees with many of the posts on OOF. He says that all reasons to refuse an MoT are, by definition, safety issues. Driving your vehicle when you know it is unsafe is an offence and, if you are involved in an accident, you leave yourself open to prosecution and your insurance company has an excuse not to cough up.
What nobody has been able to tell me as yet is whether the pink refusal causes your reg to trigger the police ANPR system.
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Thing is, what offence could you be booked for?
If you were in court for "no mot" and you produced an MOT document covering you, then it would get squashed.
My understanding (which may not be right) is that you still have a valid MOT until the ticket expires
If, during the new test, they class something as dangerous then yes, you would probably commit an offence in driving it, but, that would still be unrelated to any "driving without MOT offences"
I am sure it's OK, but honest answer is I don't rightly know!
According to the MOT tester (manager) a fail invalidates your existing MOT. New one on me :-/
Personally I think he is talking the brown smelly stuff. Unless it gets a dangerous prohibition notice then you can still drive it until the end of the MOT Cert :y
That`s what I thought G, but then you have a grey area whereby if you get a pull by the plod you may be in possession of a "valid" MOT which expires within the month but the computer records will show the plod that the car is registered as an MOT failure. Therein lies the dilemma
I tried that when the MR2 failed - I checked the online MOT database.
It shows as having a valid MOT with a notice that there has been a subsequent test 'with notes' or words to that effect.
Now granted I'm checking the public database, but I'm pretty sure it would show the same on the police database.. i.e. the car has a valid MOT but there has been a subsequent test.
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http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9QX_tFlVOyh8AIxBLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OHI0M2tvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyZAR2dGlkA1NNRVVLMDRfNzY-/SIG=124fupj32/EXP=1314228077/**http%3a//www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/
Interesting Mike, but it begs the question, if your car fails on say the idler arm, what would be the time scale for a repair because according to the letter of the law you are knowingly driving an unroadworthy vehicle. Ambiguous or what ;D
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It has always been a grey area TBH... As a tester we were told that the most recent test takes precedence ::) i.e. If it's presented and failed then that superseded the valid cert.
But, if you have a valid cert, it's still MOT'd ::)
I'm always cautious about it and would be giving it a thorough check before submitting it ;)
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Clearly you can't be done for not having an MOT, since, unless the previous certificate has been rescinded, the car has an MOT.
You might be breaking C&U regs, but, then again, you might not. You could replace an illegal tyre with the spare and drive away. No problem. Emissions failure at MOT? Frankly, you won't be stopped at the roadside and done for that either. You fail on a headlamp bulb? Well, if you're not driving it at night, again, not likely to be an issue.
As said, unless the MOT tester notes the car as dangerous to drive, I reckon there would be no issue with driving it.
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
Yes.. While you're there, Albs, do those tea leaves say anything bad about my car? ;D
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
Yes.. While you're there, Albs, do those tea leaves say anything bad about my car? ;D
Methinks his Altzheimers kicked in again :-X :D
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
Yes.. While you're there, Albs, do those tea leaves say anything bad about my car? ;D
Methinks his Altzheimers kicked in again :-X :D
As a medic I think he has a bad case of moronwhoclickedthewrongthreadalitis ;D
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Your diagnosis is spot on Dr.Guffer.It was late, I was tired and thought I had cllicked on the Newent jobs thread. :-[ ::) ;D
Still, it gave you lot a laugh. :P ::) ;D
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
Yes.. While you're there, Albs, do those tea leaves say anything bad about my car? ;D
Yes - they say it is a very dangerous contraption and will bring very bad luck to anyone who drives it. you must give it to Albs to dismantle and scatter the parts far and wide to ensure no-one ever drives it again. :y :P :D
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I have a suspicion that Guffer might also want an exhaust fitting. ::)
And how's that relevant to this MOT thread? ::) ::) :D :D
Yes.. While you're there, Albs, do those tea leaves say anything bad about my car? ;D
Yes - they say it is a very dangerous contraption and will bring very bad luck to anyone who drives it. you must give it to Albs to dismantle and scatter the parts far and wide to ensure no-one ever drives it again. :y :P :D
That figures. ::)
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http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A7x9QX_tFlVOyh8AIxBLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OHI0M2tvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2lyZAR2dGlkA1NNRVVLMDRfNzY-/SIG=124fupj32/EXP=1314228077/**http%3a//www.mottest.net/mot/mot-failure-question/
Interesting Mike, but it begs the question, if your car fails on say the idler arm, what would be the time scale for a repair because according to the letter of the law you are knowingly driving an unroadworthy vehicle. Ambiguous or what ;D
Yeah I know :)
You could always carry a box of freshly made doughnuts around in the car, in case you pulled and offer one nicely to the officer then ::) .
But then, what do I know, I'm still leading a sheltered life remember
::) :P ;D :y