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Title: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 24 August 2011, 22:25:00
Thinking along the lines of...

Front.
EBC dimpled discs. Try trade club pads on them, find their crap and fit oe  ::)

Rear.
EBC discs, but the rears aren't dimpled, no biggy. Pads same as front.

Because I believe EBC disc don't rust as badly, is this correct?
don't particularly rate EBC pads. Not tried them but they don't seem to do the right grade. Green too soft, red don't work cold on the motorway...?

Goodridge braided hoses all round to replace the rubber lines that must be spongy by now.

DOT 5.1 fluid(the stuff that mixes with DOT4 with no issues.)


Obviously the question is, will GM pads work on EBC discs...  :-/
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: TheBoy on 24 August 2011, 22:29:42
My gut reaction is that its the caliper that causes the odd wear on the inner side of the disc.  Can't prove it, as GM discs are:

a) adequate, so I haven't experiemnted beyond really cheap shite discs
b) cheap ;D
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 24 August 2011, 22:33:32
Seen it(inner edge rust line) on other Marques as well...
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: serek on 24 August 2011, 22:33:47
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Thinking along the lines of...

Front.
EBC dimpled discs. Try trade club pads on them, find their crap and fit oe  ::)

Rear.
EBC discs, but the rears aren't dimpled, no biggy. Pads same as front.

Because I believe EBC disc don't rust as badly, is this correct?
don't particularly rate EBC pads. Not tried them but they don't seem to do the right grade. Green too soft, red don't work cold on the motorway...?

Goodridge braided hoses all round to replace the rubber lines that must be spongy by now.

DOT 5.1 fluid(the stuff that mixes with DOT4 with no issues.)


Obviously the question is, will GM pads work on EBC discs...  :-/
where you can buy them from ??
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 24 August 2011, 22:35:04
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Thinking along the lines of...

Front.
EBC dimpled discs. Try trade club pads on them, find their crap and fit oe  ::)

Rear.
EBC discs, but the rears aren't dimpled, no biggy. Pads same as front.

Because I believe EBC disc don't rust as badly, is this correct?
don't particularly rate EBC pads. Not tried them but they don't seem to do the right grade. Green too soft, red don't work cold on the motorway...?

Goodridge braided hoses all round to replace the rubber lines that must be spongy by now.

DOT 5.1 fluid(the stuff that mixes with DOT4 with no issues.)


Obviously the question is, will GM pads work on EBC discs...  :-/
where you can buy them from ??
Hoses. Buy parts by had best price last I looked.
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: 2woody on 25 August 2011, 08:50:06
want me to make some hoses for you ?
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: aaronjb on 25 August 2011, 09:36:57
The EBC discs I have on the MR2 don't rust anywhere near as fast as the OE discs (though there are 'better' discs out there for rusting - they usually come pre-coated with paint, though), and so far they haven't warped/exploded/killed me.

In the past I've tried Green & Red Stuff on other cars - running Yellow on the MR2 at the moment and the bite from cold is perfect and it's impossible to make them fade.. I was wary initially (given previous heart stopping experiences with Red Stuff!) but they've clearly done some major reformulations..

The Omega is much heavier, of course, but they certainly work well on the MR2 - you wouldn't know they were a 'track only' pad.
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2011, 20:31:11
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Seen it(inner edge rust line) on other Marques as well...
All on floating caliper setups?

Only ever seen it on my Vauxhalls (but then the Fords have been company vehicles, and all my others have been Rover)
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 25 August 2011, 22:57:18
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Seen it(inner edge rust line) on other Marques as well...
All on floating caliper setups?

Only ever seen it on my Vauxhalls (but then the Fords have been company vehicles, and all my others have been Rover)
Panda, fiesta, focus, Bmw....probably all all single pot floating caliper set ups, although didn't note it tbh.  :-/

I put it down to the inboard face being more exposed to damp and splashing under the car...  :-/.  The tin guard doesn't extend to the bottom of the disc, so some is exposed...???  :-/
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: tunnie on 25 August 2011, 23:00:52
Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 25 August 2011, 23:06:30
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P

Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: Gaffers on 25 August 2011, 23:09:42
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y

Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 August 2011, 23:12:33
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y


Yeah, been there. Got the tee shirt (it's a little tight now) ::).
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: feeutfo on 25 August 2011, 23:18:06
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y


Yeah, been there. Got the tee shirt (it's a little tight now) ::).
...I remember the day I went "over square" ....  :(
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2011, 08:17:16
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y

Up until my mid 20s, I was 28" and 9.5st.

I hate to say 'I told you so', but I have told the useless student several times over the years that all of a sudden the weight would go on  ::)
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 August 2011, 08:18:47
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y

Up until my mid 20s, I was 28" and 9.5st.

I hate to say 'I told you so', but I have told the useless student several times over the years that all of a sudden the weight would go on  ::)

It certainly will :-[ :-[ ::) ::) :D :D
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2011, 08:19:59
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I put it down to the inboard face being more exposed to damp and splashing under the car...  :-/.  The tin guard doesn't extend to the bottom of the disc, so some is exposed...???  :-/
I don't buy that - the brakes will knock off the rust long before it can pit.

The rears don't suffer the same fate.


I wonder if its related to floating caliper, esp as it ages, and probably a bit of wear on the caliper pins, and the forces exerted on them  :-/
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 August 2011, 09:02:01
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I put it down to the inboard face being more exposed to damp and splashing under the car...  :-/.  The tin guard doesn't extend to the bottom of the disc, so some is exposed...???  :-/
I don't buy that - the brakes will knock off the rust long before it can pit.

The rears don't suffer the same fate.


I wonder if its related to floating caliper, esp as it ages, and probably a bit of wear on the caliper pins, and the forces exerted on them  :-/

More likely I would have thought... On older FC setups you can see the caliper move slightly towards the front (in the "wrong" direction) when the brakes are applied ;)
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2011, 09:11:08
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y

Up until my mid 20s, I was 28" and 9.5st.

I hate to say 'I told you so', but I have told the useless student several times over the years that all of a sudden the weight would go on  ::)

It certainly will :-[ :-[ ::) ::) :D :D

Both Cripple & the fat admin have met my Dad, he is what a good.. 1/4 stone heavier than me?  :P :P  :D
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2011, 09:12:43
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


As I could not post anything positive on your thread, I thought I would take the pish  ;D

I've only ever fitted standard GM (TC not OEM) to mine, they do the job. But then again its not got enough power to really use the brakes.
Title: Re: Brakes next...
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 August 2011, 09:20:55
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Its well known fat people need good brakes  :y
;D Now remind me, where did I tell you to stick your stands again...? Big head!   ;D
 :P


Just you wait.  I was a 32" waist in uni :y

Up until my mid 20s, I was 28" and 9.5st.

I hate to say 'I told you so', but I have told the useless student several times over the years that all of a sudden the weight would go on  ::)

It certainly will :-[ :-[ ::) ::) :D :D

Both Cripple & the fat admin have met my Dad, he is what a good.. 1/4 stone heavier than me?  :P :P  :D

Doesn't mean you'll definitely be like it though ;) ;)