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Title: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 21 November 2009, 15:47:17
Here are some photos of my installation. It took a while, plus some mods to keep the inspector happy but I think its worth it, esp with the forth coming petrol prices rises.

The 2nd hand kit as received : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT2888.jpg)

Now where do all these wires go ? (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3105.jpg)

I started with cleaning and fitting the manifold. Once its on I could continue to use the car as normal. (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT2893.jpg)

Ready to fit, Watch out for the live terminal on the back of the starter : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT2896.jpg)

Sliding the manifold nuts into place : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT2902.jpg)

Connecting the vapouriser to the solenoid/filter. I initially got it wrong, the incoming LPG feed should go to the filter first. Easier to do this plumbing out here than in the engine compartment : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3104.jpg)

And in situ : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3111.jpg)

Here are the tank vent pipes. The feed pipe position was good, but the filler pipe position could have been better. : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3123.jpg)

The Feed out is via the hole already there : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3117.jpg)

The filler pipe is in the corner, difficult cause it got in the way of the tank straps : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3118.jpg)

Pipe run : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3126.jpg)

The inspector said the distance was now 150mm from exhaust so I added a heatshield  (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3129.jpg)

 (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3119.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3125.jpg)

Beside suspension mtg, sleeved : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3130.jpg)

along the floor : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3131.jpg)

and into the engine bay via the front wing. I left a loop of pipe just in case ......  (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3120.jpg)

Then the filler pipework. I had to add a clip at the beginning and sleeve the pipe to filler later  : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3121.jpg)

My tank didn't come with straps, so I made them from 40mm/2mm galvanised steel : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3137.jpg)

All wiring tucked into trunking ( spare vent hose), nice and neat, keeps the inspector happy. The ECU is on the bulkhead behind the power steering reservoir : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3133.jpg)

A close up of the injector wiring. I had to extend the loom to site the pressure switch under the power steering reservoir where there is an unused stud. (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3134.jpg)

And lastly the changeover switch : (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/lapbits/PICT3141.jpg)

It would have been nice to go out and ordered everything new, but some don't have lots of funds.

Cost of installation :
2nd hand equipment £140 this included a cylinder tank I didn't use.
Vertical toroid, NOS from Tinsley tech £100
Sheet metal for straps £20
programming cable £20
new filler £20
odds and sods £25
Inspection £84
so total about £409.

Current prices around here are 108.9 for petrol, and 49.9 for LPG  :y :y :y

Ken




Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: tunnie on 21 November 2009, 16:26:08
Excellent photos  :y

Come in handy for when i do my install  :) - What a shocking install by the previous owner!  :o

i see you had issues with the fuel lines and put a heat shield on? Think i will go for a standard tank, and take the feed out on the drivers side, avoiding the exhaust.

How did you fix that plate to the cam cover for the injectors? It looks screwed on?  :-/
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 21 November 2009, 16:58:40
I screwed the injectors to a plate and then secured using the cam cover screws. They are long enough to accomodate an extra couple of mm for the plate thickness.

You may still have fun, remember the 2.2 has 2 back boxes, one each side. The heatshield is just a piece of aluminium between the pipe and exhaust. Its unlikely the pipe would have ever got to the 125deg C temp specified in COP, but it keeps the inspector happy and that's what we want  :y

Ken
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 21 November 2009, 17:02:11
The injector plate is handy, cause the injector heat sensor wires are very thin and fragile, so I could physically mount the sensor cable onto the plate and so less force on the sensor wires.

ken 
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: tunnie on 21 November 2009, 17:13:59
Cheers  :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 November 2009, 19:31:33
Looks nice and neat Ken.... Well done :y :y :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: cruisetopoland on 21 November 2009, 19:55:06
Extremely useful, Ken-thanks for your efforts  :y :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 21 November 2009, 20:45:47
Thanks,

I learned a useful lesson, always keep the elastoplast handy !.

Ken
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: PhilRich on 26 November 2009, 14:12:58
Smashing job Ken, very clear & concise writeup, it removes a lot of the trepidation I have about having a go myself, Thanks :y :y :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Stevie-blunder on 26 November 2009, 20:44:48
Cheap motoring has now started for you  :y Well done  :y :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: feeutfo on 27 November 2009, 01:07:52
Well done Ken. :-)
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: albitz on 27 November 2009, 01:19:04
Looks impressive Ken. :y :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 November 2009, 18:52:45
Good job and also cost effective :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: R.C. ™ on 27 November 2009, 21:29:50
Well done mate .. very useful thanks
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: pedroMV6 on 28 November 2009, 09:08:50
Nice, neat work, Ken - well done fella! :y

Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 November 2009, 12:56:48
Splendid job K - well done 8-) 8-) :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 04 December 2009, 16:38:18
Smart job, excellent pictures.  :y Not that you need LPG out here. ;D
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Gaffers on 06 December 2009, 23:34:55
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Smart job, excellent pictures.  :y Not that you need LPG out here. ;D

;D is water still more expensive than fuel out there?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Rin-Mega-B on 08 December 2009, 13:55:13
good job Ken ,Let me for there trial in Thailand
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: p j morgan on 08 December 2009, 18:06:54
well done ken its amazing what you can do when you put your mind to it ! :y
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 08 December 2009, 19:02:09
Yeah, there is a slight hesitation when you take a drill and hammer to your car, but it all worked out OK.

What's really nice is filling up, other people are handing over £50, I pay just £20  :y :y :y

Ken
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Andy B on 08 December 2009, 19:08:03
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.... other people are handing over £50,  .....

They're not filling an Omega then!  :-? It was about £70 when I last filled mine ..... & it needs filling again at the moment.   :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: davethediver on 09 December 2009, 17:14:24
Yep 72 from dead the other day and 6 for a packet of smokes  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Ken's LPG install
Post by: Ken T on 09 December 2009, 23:56:07
2nd hand is a cheap way to go, but MAKE SURE you got the un-knobbled software. The AEB ECU sold by OMVL/Bigas etc needs a dongle to access all parameters. There an autotune available without dongle but it lacks the ability to fine tune the system. There are a few bits I would like to change, for example it tends to flag up a running lean on pot 1 at high revs ( ?).

Haing said that it is still usable, and some 2nd hand sets are fairly cheap, just make sure what you buy is not unusable rubbish, things like checking tank manufactured dates, as they have a theoretical 10 year life.

I hear a rumourer that Tunnie/Kevin/ James V6 are doing a "how to "video ?.

Ken