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Title: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 22 February 2010, 21:54:24
having sold my fully marked 1998 omega, its time to build a facelift one, ready for the forthcoming show season, where the club i am a member off, takes all the old police cars to raise money for help the heroes.
The club has old cars from mgb's, allegro, austin1100, volvo v70s, all sorts!

Heres the vehicle i am replicating,
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/omegapolicesaloon1-1.jpg)

Heres the donor car as it stands currently
(spoiler coming off and leather coming out, all for sale later)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/ov3.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 22 February 2010, 22:34:23
Looks Good, was that car on ebay a few days ago
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: oceansoul on 23 February 2010, 20:43:33
Top ones a facelift tho? How can that be a 1998? Or am i reading wrong lol

How do you drive around with police markings and not get stopped??
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Amigo on 23 February 2010, 21:00:46
I believe you can drive around with police markings provided you don't try to immitate an officer. I know you can buy & run classic panda cars.
    Maybe the decals have to out of date? :-/
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: fullatherack on 23 February 2010, 21:03:37
thats a lovely lookin white omega with leather and elite wheels dont do it!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: alunonhisown on 23 February 2010, 21:07:25
Simon,
If that was your Miggy in police uniform I saw on eBay a few months ago, did eBay remove the advert a couple of times and the third time you threaten to sue Ebay?
Also, where the hell are you going to get a bonnet badge from, look at the size of it!
I cannot imagine the Chief Constable have a press conference handing one over to you.
D.
Good Job on the last one by the way.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: joshwyatt on 23 February 2010, 21:10:11
Simon and I are both a member of PVEC, the Police Vehicle Enthusiast's Club, as I intend to produce a TVP saloon fairly soon.
ACPO (Association of Chief Police Officers)with imput from various other clubs have formed a code of practice you could say;
That modern vehicles have 'NOT IN SERVICE' displayed to the rear and O/S, all 'POLICE' wording and force crests are covered. It is technically an offence to drive a vehicle with a blue light fitted, even if it's covered or disconnected. But ACPO agreement states it's ok if it's covered and is inoperable i.e fuses removed etc.
But battenburg is permitted and rear chevrons etc uncovered.
But of course these aren't run about cars, you now have to fill in a log book when you take the vehicles on road for battery charging, MOT, servicing and going to and from shows.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: VXL V6 on 23 February 2010, 21:12:05
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How do you drive around with police markings and not get stopped??

As I understand it:-

All strobes etc have to be disabled (not just pulling fuse, wig wag drivers have to be disconnected) no force logo or police wording to be visible (I think you were allowed to cover it up at one time but the rules now mean that you have to remove them totally).

I know James Waddington's estate has magnetic logos and police wording which is just placed on the car when it's at a show.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 24 February 2010, 18:41:08
I have elites and Mv6s, using a spare saloon isnt a problem lol.

I sold mine on ebay at xmas
and no it was not removed and yes it sold on ebay as it was legal.


Dont worry about the legal side of the car as it gets disguised and legalised for use on the road, but will be in full livery and on show stands and exhibition displays once i have restored it.

And yes, i do have permission for the car, and abide by what josh said, we have never had a problem.
Infact it aided road safety, when 5 of us where in convoy up the M5 going to worcester HQ (by invitation), and NOT 1 CAR would pass our convoy, despite "NOT IN SERVICE" people still werent sure, but then, if a 1998 S reg omega, a 1994 L reg Escort, a 1998 Astra, and a 1991 Senator, look like they are still in service then people arent the sharpest tools in the box.

Some times for local shows they send a bike to take you there to save hours of covering up.


but thats all by the by.

the point is,  the car is coming in standard, and will be returned to spec shortly, which will be interesting little project!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 24 February 2010, 18:41:50
and, this car lives under lock and key in the warm when not at a show!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: joshwyatt on 24 February 2010, 18:46:12
Certainly is interesting Simon, I intend on producing a marked TVP Omega saloon in the next 2 months or so...so would definitely welcome any imput you have or experiences  :y
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 24 February 2010, 21:48:13
well if you do it before saturday you will have beaten me lol.
Mine is TVP battenburg, there is an older jam sandwich one on pcuk, M... KNP,  but, the early facelifts had orange stripe. try one of them then complete with my roadwars omega and vectra (my mate now owns) will have the full SKY ONE compliment!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: tunnie on 24 February 2010, 23:39:47
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Top ones a facelift tho? How can that be a 1998? Or am i reading wrong lol

How do you drive around with police markings and not get stopped??

They are both facelifts, his previous project a 1998 has already been sold.

Fine to drive around with battern berg design as long as it does not show the police crest, and have word police covered.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 25 February 2010, 00:45:16
cant drive battenburg as the blue gives off blue light all thought its a reflection.
unless solid blue not reflective tho
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Lazydocker on 25 February 2010, 20:52:26
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I have elites and Mv6s, using a spare saloon isnt a problem lol.

I sold mine on ebay at xmas
and no it was not removed and yes it sold on ebay as it was legal.


Dont worry about the legal side of the car as it gets disguised and legalised for use on the road, but will be in full livery and on show stands and exhibition displays once i have restored it.

And yes, i do have permission for the car, and abide by what josh said, we have never had a problem.
Infact it aided road safety, when 5 of us where in convoy up the M5 going to worcester HQ (by invitation), and NOT 1 CAR would pass our convoy, despite "NOT IN SERVICE" people still werent sure, but then, if a 1998 S reg omega, a 1994 L reg Escort, a 1998 Astra, and a 1991 Senator, look like they are still in service then people arent the sharpest tools in the box.

Some times for local shows they send a bike to take you there to save hours of covering up.


but thats all by the by.

the point is,  the car is coming in standard, and will be returned to spec shortly, which will be interesting little project!

When I worked Breakdown and Recovery in Hampshire my Astra Van had Red Diamond Bright Chevrons on the rear, Orange stripes down the sides between 2 thinner (1") Blue Diamond Bright strips, a large crest, "Police Approved Operator" stickers (as well as Green Flag, AA and RAC) as well as the garage name/number and roof Lights... People always slowed down/moved over at night ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 26 February 2010, 08:59:37
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/P250110_1513.jpg)

here's a view, i took a screen shot off my vascar video
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 27 February 2010, 08:32:29
I'm looking forward to seeing the end result :y
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 28 February 2010, 09:35:13
 (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/interior1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 28 February 2010, 10:37:20
Is that the vascar from the devon & cormwall omega
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 28 February 2010, 10:38:53
yeah sold that car so cheap it came with nothing but a light on the roof and the stickers on the car. its now in the 02
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: pedroMV6 on 28 February 2010, 10:47:32
My mate has a Plod Omega, IIRC he found out that blue lights on a car are OK (check out how many trucks are lit up like a fairground with blue lights) as long as they do not have the capability to flash.
Saying that, blue sidelights are an MOT fail as they have to be white.

Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: v6fletch on 01 March 2010, 20:45:16
my mrs borrowed my car the other week to take the kids to scunny, on the way there she was baffled as to why everybody on the motorway etc kept moving out of her way, she wasnt speeding just plodding along.but everybody cleared the way for her, it wasnt until she parked up outside her mums house an took a walk round the front of the car an the penny dropped, ive got a pair of blue led sidelights fitted. not flashers just bright an make the car highly visible.my mrs wasnt chuffed .
 ive checked with the vosa at the mot station and they say provided they dont flash they are legal , but sidelights must be white to pass the mot so i shall be fitting them behind the grill !!! ive had knebhods run in to me in the past an its the usual "didnt see you " now im seen !!!!

ps would love to see the police replicas at one of the shows,can u send info as to where they can be seen pls?
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 01 March 2010, 23:55:35
yeah sure,   but, vosa are wrong, blue lights are not legal.  and people wont move just cos a solid blue light is on.

generaly, in lane 3 in a black or white omega people move, no idea why but with xenons on they do.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 04 March 2010, 21:47:57
so far...

TRACKER STOLEN CAR FINDER
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs465.snc3/25525_376479500852_511200852_5352265_738511_n.jpg)

DAM GOOD CLEAN
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs465.snc3/25525_376479535852_511200852_5352267_3088455_n.jpg)

ZERO MILES ON THE CLOCK? LOOKS THAT WAY!
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs445.snc3/25525_376479590852_511200852_5352272_4387839_n.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 04 March 2010, 21:55:07
Looken Good 8-)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Foxycav on 04 March 2010, 22:11:23
That looks great, cant wait to see it when its all done. Btw how did you get the engine bay That clean (products used) Mine could do with a good clean :)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 06 March 2010, 12:08:13
Further Detailing of engine bay
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1738.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1737.jpg)

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1736.jpg)


New Track Rod Ends, sod of a job, but a pair to pass an mot, and nothing else, quite a result. Retail at £48 a unit (or 100 ish main dealer) got them trade for £6.12 each thats a bargain!
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1734.jpg)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1733.jpg)


The MV6 Wheels are now off, and are for sale on ebay, have not posted them on here as dont have enough posts, 2 had inner edge wear on tyres (proven fault with ball joints!) pm me if interested in the wheels.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1744.jpg)

Police control unit for equipment being installed.
(http://
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/IMG_1742.jpg)

Thats it for now, more updates later in the week, although i have now wired in the siren and alternate headlights which was amusing.
Note, this car isnt in use on the road anylonger so dont give the usual about legality lol
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 09 March 2010, 22:36:57
just ordered the kit just over £900 incl vat and delivery, christ, same price as a re-spray!

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/battenburg.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 09 March 2010, 22:48:46
Does the kit come pre-cut made to measure as per the picture
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 09 March 2010, 22:54:53
yeah fitting was extra, i will do that at my workshop. Its all labled and numbered and ready to roll
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 17 March 2010, 11:48:22
Well, so far today, i have got the wheels wrapped and packed ready for courier to collect,   ripped the leather interior out of the car and got that ready for someone who is coming to collect it, and i have also re fitted an original police interior into it.

Not bad for 2 1/2 hours work. i think i will put the kettle on and then hunt round for the biscuits that got hidden when rumour broke loose i was on a diet for a few weeks!

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs364.snc3/23507_407003005852_511200852_5445200_4709013_n.jpg)

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs364.snc3/23507_407002985852_511200852_5445198_4074853_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs424.ash1/23507_407003025852_511200852_5445202_7858125_n.jpg)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Xplicit 2.0 on 17 March 2010, 13:21:24
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My mate has a Plod Omega, IIRC he found out that blue lights on a car are OK (check out how many trucks are lit up like a fairground with blue lights) as long as they do not have the capability to flash.
Saying that, blue sidelights are an MOT fail as they have to be white.


and on that note, so are white LED side lights... was told it would fail the MOT as they are not white (hint of blue apparently.... jus like xenon headlights, of the LED sides on audi's???)  :-/ :-/ :-/
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Xplicit 2.0 on 17 March 2010, 13:26:17
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just ordered the kit just over £900 incl vat and delivery, christ, same price as a re-spray!

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/vehicledisposalsuk/battenburg.jpg)
think i might have a word with my old man. we do vinyl cuts and can probs get them colours in reflective. see what price we can come up with (jus for future reference of course... note that im not advertising anything, jus simply passing comment)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: joshwyatt on 17 March 2010, 23:58:25
Simon, are you able to get hold of any other sun visor mounted tracker units? I'd like to put one in VTL and start the ball rolling on that. I'll put a post on PVEC, but thought you'd be the best guy to ask first  :y
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 18 March 2010, 00:13:27
doubtful but will make enquiries for you mate.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: joshwyatt on 18 March 2010, 00:23:30
Cheers Simon  :y
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: batmobile on 18 March 2010, 23:00:06
Simon / Josh, are you PVEC or PCUK? Are either of you taking the 'projects' to Brooklands in May?
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 19 March 2010, 13:32:11
pvec and yes, check the events section.  I am the only one on OOF with cars in the club.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: batmobile on 20 March 2010, 12:38:00
See you at Brooklands, if you went last year I'll be round the back with the big white vans  ;)
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 24 March 2010, 23:03:09
off to collect the battenburg tomorrow and have some special graphics made up.  I think by the end of the weekend there will be a photo upload unlike any other!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 24 March 2010, 23:35:53
another update, i flattened the paint with 1200 grade yesterday, and then mopped it and hand polished it twice to make the paint like brand new, it is like a brand new car now!
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Jim on 25 March 2010, 07:39:59
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another update, i flattened the paint with 1200 grade yesterday, and then mopped it and hand polished it twice to make the paint like brand new, it is like a brand new car now!
Looking forward to seeing the end result, what polish did you use to mop it was it g3 or g4
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: Simon72 on 25 March 2010, 21:05:42
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My mate has a Plod Omega, IIRC he found out that blue lights on a car are OK (check out how many trucks are lit up like a fairground with blue lights) as long as they do not have the capability to flash.
Saying that, blue sidelights are an MOT fail as they have to be white.


and on that note, so are white LED side lights... was told it would fail the MOT as they are not white (hint of blue apparently.... jus like xenon headlights, of the LED sides on audi's???)  :-/ :-/ :-/

Just had my Miggy MOT'ed at Vauxhall Yesterday and mine is fitted with White/Blue tint Sidelight bulds, also Blue tint head light bulbs in the Projectors...

Vauxhall Masterfit PASSED the car with out a query  :y

So it must depend on if they are BLIND when testing or just don't care.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: david_omega on 26 March 2010, 00:51:59
blue TINT isnt a problem, BLUE BULBS ARE.
pleae do a seperate thread about bulbs anyway. this is ongoing posts about project car.
Title: Re: New Project car
Post by: mowerman71 on 28 March 2010, 19:54:46
looks very clean , bet it looks great when shown , nice one   :y