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Title: manual/auto
Post by: bjc on 24 July 2007, 23:10:29
does the 3.0l with a manual box perform better than the auto.
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Post by: ffcgary1 on 24 July 2007, 23:12:54
Blimey, does it!!!!! :) :) :)
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Post by: Andy B on 24 July 2007, 23:14:32
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does the 3.0l with a manual box perform better than the auto.
Depends whether or not you're in stop start traffic ...... my auto is far better then!  ;D
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Post by: ffcgary1 on 24 July 2007, 23:16:53
208BHP ON A STICK REALLY DOES FLY.Truly a mad engine and will make you grin like a cheshire cat for days. I have a man box car that i am breaking and the drive back was an absolute rush. :y
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: bjc on 24 July 2007, 23:21:21
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Blimey, does it!!!!! :) :) :)
its just i am looking at getting a 3.0l manual as the 3.0l auto feels very sluggish
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Post by: rcaws on 24 July 2007, 23:31:28
it has to be a manual box, ive driven slushboxes and they are fine in traffic or at a steady plod on the m way but hit a driving road and there is no contest.
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Post by: rcaws on 24 July 2007, 23:33:05
unless of course your clutch is on its way like mine, then its a pain in the....................... >:(
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Post by: ffcgary1 on 24 July 2007, 23:40:15
Convert it to a man box my man and save some dosh. It just so happens that i have all the parts for sale to do it if your interested You would need to remove said items yourself.It has been done just recently by someone on here and they will give you more details. :y
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Post by: miggy on 24 July 2007, 23:41:52
Manual every time

 :y :y :y
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 July 2007, 23:44:33
nah....what you want is a 4 pot auto running on lpg  ;D Thats power  ;D
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Post by: miggy on 24 July 2007, 23:47:10
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nah....what you want is a 4 pot auto running on lpg  ;D Thats power  ;D

Especially if you put a match to it.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: bjc on 24 July 2007, 23:47:29
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Convert it to a man box my man and save some dosh. It just so happens that i have all the parts for sale to do it if your interested You would need to remove said items yourself.It has been done just recently by someone on here and they will give you more details. :y
i have already decided to break mine and puttting cash towards something newer
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Post by: bjc on 24 July 2007, 23:48:54
looks like its deffinetely going to be manual
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Post by: miggy on 24 July 2007, 23:50:18
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Convert it to a man box my man and save some dosh. It just so happens that i have all the parts for sale to do it if your interested You would need to remove said items yourself.It has been done just recently by someone on here and they will give you more details. :y
i have already decided to break mine and puttting cash towards something newer

I know where there is a nice 52 plate for sale, she is only a DTI 2.2 but she has many extras, more like a cdx apart from the cruise control.

 :y :y
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: bjc on 25 July 2007, 06:40:36
3.0l im after
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Post by: TheBoy on 25 July 2007, 08:48:04
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Convert it to a man box my man and save some dosh. It just so happens that i have all the parts for sale to do it if your interested You would need to remove said items yourself.It has been done just recently by someone on here and they will give you more details. :y
i have already decided to break mine and puttting cash towards something newer

I know where there is a nice 52 plate for sale, she is only a DTI 2.2 but she has many extras, more like a cdx apart from the cruise control.

 :y :y
i presume cruise can be enabled with a little chat with tech2
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: TheBoy on 25 July 2007, 08:50:31
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Blimey, does it!!!!! :) :) :)
its just i am looking at getting a 3.0l manual as the 3.0l auto feels very sluggish
Depends on your definition of faster - at some speeds, auto is quicker due to gearing differences. Generally, though, manual would be quicker.  later autobox firmware does improve the situation, removing some of the 'slip'
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Post by: Paul M on 26 July 2007, 13:55:23
Manual every time, aside from the performance difference (which is significant -- you can get a manual 3.0 from 0 to 60 in 7 secs in the right conditions) it's just so much more involving, which makes it much more fun and much quicker on B roads.

If I'm going to be wading through traffic I take the bike, gets there in about a tenth of the time.
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Post by: Golfbuddy on 26 July 2007, 14:08:30
It all depends on whether or not you want a left leg that is disproportionate to your right. This will mean that you walk everywhere in circles, meaning that you will be late for everything, lose your job, house and family in fact everything you hold dear to yourself.

Of course it's your call; buy a manual if you want but don't say you weren't warned!! :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 26 July 2007, 18:30:05
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Manual every time, aside from the performance difference (which is significant -- you can get a manual 3.0 from 0 to 60 in 7 secs in the right conditions) it's just so much more involving, which makes it much more fun and much quicker on B roads.

If I'm going to be wading through traffic I take the bike, gets there in about a tenth of the time.
as opposed to 7.7 in auto, and still think I can do better ;)
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: amigov6 on 26 July 2007, 22:37:58
 :)I prefer manuals as a rule, although autos are ok in big cars & heavy traffic & a good kickdown is a giggle. It's horses for courses really :y
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Post by: Paul M on 27 July 2007, 13:25:18
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Manual every time, aside from the performance difference (which is significant -- you can get a manual 3.0 from 0 to 60 in 7 secs in the right conditions) it's just so much more involving, which makes it much more fun and much quicker on B roads.

If I'm going to be wading through traffic I take the bike, gets there in about a tenth of the time.
as opposed to 7.7 in auto, and still think I can do better ;)

Oh I know I can do better, it's just a case of finding enough traction to do it with ;). An LSD would be nice and would show up the benefits of a manual even more, but that's a luxury few of us get.

The gearing on the manual is much better suited to low-speed acceleration, as is the fact that you can rev the engine to 4,000 RPM before launching. It's still geared too high for a car this heavy with a peaky 24V engine, but then these weren't designed as drag racers.

Quicker straight-line acceleration is one thing, but it's on the B-roads when you can select the right gear before entering a corner that it really shines. And if you're right on the limit of adhesion with the rear wheels, having a direct link between the throttle and rear wheels (i.e. no slippage due to torque convertor) makes it much safer and easier to control.
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Post by: TheBoy on 27 July 2007, 13:46:15
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but it's on the B-roads when you can select the right gear before entering a corner that it really shines. And if you're right on the limit of adhesion with the rear wheels, having a direct link between the throttle and rear wheels (i.e. no slippage due to torque convertor) makes it much safer and easier to control.
manuals are more controllable, but the later firmware and sport mode makes a pretty big difference. On the local B roads round here, if I'm feeling that way inclined, I tend to lock it in 2nd anyway (not much chance to go over 85/90mph round the B roads here anyway (apparently ::)))
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Post by: rcaws on 27 July 2007, 14:17:26
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Manual every time, aside from the performance difference (which is significant -- you can get a manual 3.0 from 0 to 60 in 7 secs in the right conditions) it's just so much more involving, which makes it much more fun and much quicker on B roads.

If I'm going to be wading through traffic I take the bike, gets there in about a tenth of the time.
as opposed to 7.7 in auto, and still think I can do better ;)

Oh I know I can do better, it's just a case of finding enough traction to do it with ;). An LSD would be nice and would show up the benefits of a manual even more, but that's a luxury few of us get.

The gearing on the manual is much better suited to low-speed acceleration, as is the fact that you can rev the engine to 4,000 RPM before launching. It's still geared too high for a car this heavy with a peaky 24V engine, but then these weren't designed as drag racers.

Quicker straight-line acceleration is one thing, but it's on the B-roads when you can select the right gear before entering a corner that it really shines. And if you're right on the limit of adhesion with the rear wheels, having a direct link between the throttle and rear wheels (i.e. no slippage due to torque convertor) makes it much safer and easier to control.

Couldnt agree more, it takes a bit of getting used to hussling such a big barge down a B road, but once you have it mastered and select the correct gear its an immensely satisfiying device. and even if it does get a bit twitchy its so progressive and controlable, its what makes these cars such understated gems!!  :y
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: Tony H on 27 July 2007, 22:07:21
Auto great mile munching motorway cruiser and good in stop start city driving. This is my second auto however my next one will be a manual due to the lack of driver involvement pack. as I've put in a post on here before a way of improving the drive in an auto on the twisty stuff is traction "off" sport "on" and set the shift in second gear this gives you some engine breaking a top end of 80 mph and the facility to kick down into first
Title: Re: manual/auto
Post by: davlad22 on 28 July 2007, 03:56:56
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she is only a DTI 2.2 but she has many extras, more like a cdx apart from the cruise control.
Put cruise control on yours, piece of piss. Vx won't be particularly keen but hey it's one of the best mods you can make! None of this V6 nonsense ;D ;)