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Title: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 August 2007, 20:21:31
I've taken the sump off the Veccy.. .not a bad job at all, once I'd located a hidden bolt!

Thread is well and truely gone.

Now, do I go out and spend on a tap/die/helicoil/drill set - or, do I get a local engineering place to rethread it for me?
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 August 2007, 20:43:48
Easy realy James - if it is ally get it helicoiled - not worth rethreading
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: theolodian on 20 August 2007, 20:48:45
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Easy realy James - if it is ally get it helicoiled - not worth rethreading
Someone should have brought that up before he removed the sump . . .  ::) :)
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 August 2007, 20:57:45
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Easy realy James - if it is ally get it helicoiled - not worth rethreading
Someone should have brought that up before he removed the sump . . .  ::) :)

They did.

But I wanted to pull the sump off anyway, as it was leaking a tad at the front.

Reckon if I phone somewhere in the morning, they'll do it same day if I bung them some cash?
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Dazzler on 20 August 2007, 21:00:26
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Easy realy James - if it is ally get it helicoiled - not worth rethreading
Someone should have brought that up before he removed the sump . . .  ::) :)

They did.

But I wanted to pull the sump off anyway, as it was leaking a tad at the front.

Reckon if I phone somewhere in the morning, they'll do it same day if I bung them some cash?

I would mate, alot cheaper than buying the kit ;)
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 August 2007, 21:02:34
We have been discussing it for a while - helicoiling is best
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2007, 21:03:20
Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 August 2007, 21:04:47
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: TheBoy on 20 August 2007, 21:05:51
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...
Oh forget the lpg rubbish. No point in having Omega, then losing the boot. May as well get a smaller car.
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 August 2007, 21:09:15
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...

You should have got the 2.0 running on it then sold it for a grand after getting the Elite working - you know where I live and the offer of help with LPG
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 21 August 2007, 07:34:17
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...
Oh forget the lpg rubbish. No point in having Omega, then losing the boot. May as well get a smaller car.

Thats why you need to get an estate  ;)
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 August 2007, 08:11:07
Given that you are doing a bit of mobile mechanic work, a sump plug helicoil set is going to be a very useful asset.......so get the kit.

On a sump, the old trick used to be to grease the tap etc well so the swarf sticks to it and put the old oil through it again to flush it out. That way it can stay on the car and you dont have the nightmare task of trying to re-seal the dam thng when re-fitting it!
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 21 August 2007, 09:48:51
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Given that you are doing a bit of mobile mechanic work, a sump plug helicoil set is going to be a very useful asset.......so get the kit.

On a sump, the old trick used to be to grease the tap etc well so the swarf sticks to it and put the old oil through it again to flush it out. That way it can stay on the car and you dont have the nightmare task of trying to re-seal the dam thng when re-fitting it!

Points noted - and I think it's a good idea. I would hate to be helping someone with a car, and have the sump thread break!

I always always use a torque wrench on such things - that way you can't be blamed for being ham handed (unless you cross it!)

I reckon my sump's been overtightened before.

Can you recommend a decent tap and helicoil set I should buy?

And while I'm on the case, what's the best sealant for resealing my sump?
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 August 2007, 13:44:04
The sealent used on the V6 sump is the same as that used for the oil cooler plate which should be well upto the job.

I dont know off hand the thread pitch and size of the sump plug, I would think its about an M14 but what the pitch is I dont know...

Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Paul M on 22 August 2007, 11:29:20
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...
Oh forget the lpg rubbish. No point in having Omega, then losing the boot. May as well get a smaller car.

Sounds like a good idea.... if you can find a smaller car that's rear wheel drive, can carry 4 (or even 5) people comfortably, has reasonable performance (less than 8 secs 0-60), while managing a petrol/diesel equivalent of 60+ MPG, all for £1500 or less, sign me up please.

Until then I guess I'm stuck with this Omega with only half its boot space available, even though I've still never managed to actually fill the boot :y

Not everyone uses their car as a glorified van :P I mostly use mine for carrying people, and unless a law change allows me to carry passengers in the boot of a saloon car, having any substantial boot space is irrelevant to me ;)
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 August 2007, 11:43:56
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Now remove the engine, and put in v6, then remove bodyshell and put Omega one on...

Would like nothing more than a V6 Gas Omega...
Oh forget the lpg rubbish. No point in having Omega, then losing the boot. May as well get a smaller car.

Whos boot would be even fuller with tank!
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2007, 18:29:35
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 even though I've still never managed to actually fill the boot :y

Not everyone uses their car as a glorified van :P  ......

Take my wife shopping to Tesco/Asda/etc She'd show you how you can easily fill it!  ;D
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2007, 20:43:22
I find 5 adults in Omega a squeeze due to tunnel.  In my case, passengers invariably come with lugguage, hence why I need big boot.  Also, our camping trips, of south of France trips, we fill the boot.

Decent load carrying is more important to me that RWD etc.  So much so, I am seriously considering a Veccy-C, 03 plate, 37k, 50mpg, which I've known from new.
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 22 August 2007, 21:12:56
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I find 5 adults in Omega a squeeze due to tunnel.  In my case, passengers invariably come with lugguage, hence why I need big boot.  Also, our camping trips, of south of France trips, we fill the boot.

Decent load carrying is more important to me that RWD etc.  So much so, I am seriously considering a Veccy-C, 03 plate, 37k, 50mpg, which I've known from new.

Wouldnt you like a dual fuel one  ;)

On autotrader.....do a search coz im lost on how to post a link from autotrader  :-[

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=2&nU=0&make=VAUXHALL&model=VECTRA&min_pr=3000&max_pr=4000&postcode=SN1%204EB&miles=40&max_records=200&modelexact=1&photo=1&hassearched=Y

Its the 6th car down on the list  :y




Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 August 2007, 22:36:40
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I find 5 adults in Omega a squeeze due to tunnel.  In my case, passengers invariably come with lugguage, hence why I need big boot.  Also, our camping trips, of south of France trips, we fill the boot.

Decent load carrying is more important to me that RWD etc.  So much so, I am seriously considering a Veccy-C, 03 plate, 37k, 50mpg, which I've known from new.

No problems filling the back full of children and when we go on holiday we put a lot of stuff in the van.

As to South of France - towing limit in France is 82.5mph :y
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2007, 22:44:01
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I find 5 adults in Omega a squeeze due to tunnel.  In my case, passengers invariably come with lugguage, hence why I need big boot.  Also, our camping trips, of south of France trips, we fill the boot.

Decent load carrying is more important to me that RWD etc.  So much so, I am seriously considering a Veccy-C, 03 plate, 37k, 50mpg, which I've known from new.

No problems filling the back full of children and when we go on holiday we put a lot of stuff in the van.

As to South of France - towing limit in France is 82.5mph :y
110kph i believe, not 130kph
Title: Re: The sump is off - next steps
Post by: Martin_1962 on 23 August 2007, 10:23:40
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I find 5 adults in Omega a squeeze due to tunnel.  In my case, passengers invariably come with lugguage, hence why I need big boot.  Also, our camping trips, of south of France trips, we fill the boot.

Decent load carrying is more important to me that RWD etc.  So much so, I am seriously considering a Veccy-C, 03 plate, 37k, 50mpg, which I've known from new.

No problems filling the back full of children and when we go on holiday we put a lot of stuff in the van.

As to South of France - towing limit in France is 82.5mph :y
110kph i believe, not 130kph


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So long as the gross train weight does not exceed 3.5 tonnes, the French don't differentiate between cars and cars towing caravans, so it's 130km/h on autoroutes (110km/h in the rain), 110km/h on roads with a central divide (100km/h in the rain) and 90km/h all other roads outside built-up areas (80km/h in the rain).
If the gross train weight exceeds 3.5 tonnes, the speed limits are 110km/h, 100km/h, 80km/h, respectively.
For full details from the official website see: Code de la Route - Limitations de vitesse

My train weight is under 3 tons!! :y