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Title: replacement exhaust
Post by: jonathanh on 09 September 2006, 18:03:49
Hi guys.  The exhaust on my 2.5ltr has finally given up and I'm trying to decide between the VX dealer (over £300 for the three parts) or a Walker replacement at £170.  

What is you experience - I've had aftermarket exhausts before on another car ( Bosal) and they were really awful and I don't want to make the same mistake again.

Any thoughts you guys have would be much appreciated as I seem to be running out of luck at the moment (new discs pads, shocks and rear springs in the last two weeks!)

Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Auto Addict on 09 September 2006, 18:07:00
Hi Jonathan, welcome to the forum.

I think you may find the recommendation on this site is for a genuine Vx exhaust.

If you hang around a bit, others with more knowledge than myself will be along.
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: STMO123 on 09 September 2006, 18:26:14
Hi Jonathon and welcome. You dont say in your post how old your car is and what condition it is in.

I think the very basic answer to your question is that Vx exhausts are by far the best, but, obviously, the most expensive. So, if your car is worth it, go for genuine Vx every time. If your car has seen better days, you may not want to pay top price for an exhaust. You pays your money...........
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: tunnie on 09 September 2006, 19:13:37
Johnathon,

Ring AutoVaux, details here:

http://www.autovaux.co.uk/Contact.asp

They sell genuine Vauxhall parts at trade prices, make sure you ask for genuine GM parts.

Get them delivered and put on by your local guy.

For my 2.2 cat back Vx parts is £200
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Admin on 10 September 2006, 09:13:23
On Omegas the quality of exhausts goes in this order.

Genuine Vx. Very good quality, double walled so quiet too. Will last way beyond the 2 year guarantee period.

Bosal. Good aftermarket manufacturer and maker of many OE systems. However, their stuff is not as good, and often only single walled.

Timax/Walker. This is the stuff Kw*k F*t and other well known exhaust companies will sell.
You might as well make an exhaust yourself out of toilet roll holders and tin foil!
Truly awful kit. Cheaper than the rest and for a damn good reason!

What part of the country are you in?

Trade club price for a full (2 centre sections and back box) genuine system is around £230. If you are anywhere near Derby I could meet up with you and get the system at TC price for you.

Be careful with Autovaux. What they quote as a genuine Vx system will probably be a Bosal system.
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 September 2006, 09:31:55
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On Omegas the quality of exhausts goes in this order.

Genuine Vx. Very good quality, double walled so quiet too. Will last way beyond the 2 year guarantee period.

Bosal. Good aftermarket manufacturer and maker of many OE systems. However, their stuff is not as good, and often only single walled.

Timax/Walker. This is the stuff Kw*k F*t and other well known exhaust companies will sell.
You might as well make an exhaust yourself out of toilet roll holders and tin foil!
Truly awful kit. Cheaper than the rest and for a damn good reason!

What part of the country are you in?

Trade club price for a full (2 centre sections and back box) genuine system is around £230. If you are anywhere near Derby I could meet up with you and get the system at TC price for you.

Be careful with Autovaux. What they quote as a genuine Vx system will probably be a Bosal system.

Sound advice Dave. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2006, 10:46:34
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On Omegas the quality of exhausts goes in this order.

Genuine Vx. Very good quality, double walled so quiet too. Will last way beyond the 2 year guarantee period.

I think mine lasted 6 years and almost 100k miles, there is no record in the service history of mine being changed.

Its still the GM on it, so 6 years and 100k miles? for £200 i'll get another GM zorst  ;)
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: jonathanh on 10 September 2006, 12:18:51
THanks all of you for your response.  I'll go for the Vx kit.  The idea of tin foil and toilet roll holders sums up my previous experience (10 years ago) and I just don't want to go there again.

To answer a few questions in the thread: car is 1999 with 50k on the clock.  Makes me a bit envious to see tunnie get 100k from his zorst - I guess I'm just unlucky...  

laidback - thanks for the offer.  I'm near coventry so not far away from Derby.  I'm going to try to blag TC prices tomorrow but if that doesn't work I'll be in touch.  

Thanks once again guys
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: tunnie on 10 September 2006, 12:45:16
Jonathan,

50k miles is fine really from an exhaust, it all depends what kind of journeys you do. As i said i got nearly 100k out of mine, its on 96k at the moment, but blowing slightly.

I have seen ex-police 5 Series BMW's with 230k miles with its orginal exhaust!!!  :o - It just never cooled down, the heating up and cooling down is what does the damage. So if you do lots of short runs, it will shorten the life of the exhaust.
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: RonaldMcBurger on 10 September 2006, 13:48:16
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On Omegas the quality of exhausts goes in this order.

Genuine Vx. Very good quality, double walled so quiet too. Will last way beyond the 2 year guarantee period.

Bosal. Good aftermarket manufacturer and maker of many OE systems. However, their stuff is not as good, and often only single walled.

Timax/Walker. This is the stuff Kw*k F*t and other well known exhaust companies will sell.
You might as well make an exhaust yourself out of toilet roll holders and tin foil!
Truly awful kit. Cheaper than the rest and for a damn good reason!

What part of the country are you in?

Trade club price for a full (2 centre sections and back box) genuine system is around £230. If you are anywhere near Derby I could meet up with you and get the system at TC price for you.

Be careful with Autovaux. What they quote as a genuine Vx system will probably be a Bosal system.

Sound advice Dave. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Great choice of words, except I think the whole exercise was to get 'lack of sound' advice! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: mr des on 10 September 2006, 14:31:56
dont rule out the scrappy i got a stainless steel oem exhaust for GF primera for buttons it was brand new too
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: EddieX on 10 September 2006, 21:35:41
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THanks all of you for your response.  I'll go for the Vx kit.  The idea of tin foil and toilet roll holders sums up my previous experience (10 years ago) and I just don't want to go there again.

To answer a few questions in the thread: car is 1999 with 50k on the clock.  Makes me a bit envious to see tunnie get 100k from his zorst - I guess I'm just unlucky...  

laidback - thanks for the offer.  I'm near coventry so not far away from Derby.  I'm going to try to blag TC prices tomorrow but if that doesn't work I'll be in touch.  

Thanks once again guys


Thats interesting, mine needs a new exhaust and it is 7 years and 75k old. It looks like years are more relevant than miles.

Also, I've been quoted £275 plus VAT. at a VX dealer and it said "trade club" on the cover of the book he was reading from. Does VX think we are all mega rich in Essex and set prices accordingly?  >:(

Eddie.
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: omegaV6CD on 10 September 2006, 22:56:58
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Hi guys.  The exhaust on my 2.5ltr has finally given up and I'm trying to decide between the VX dealer (over £300 for the three parts) or a Walker replacement at £170.  

What is you experience - I've had aftermarket exhausts before on another car ( Bosal) and they were really awful and I don't want to make the same mistake again.

Any thoughts you guys have would be much appreciated as I seem to be running out of luck at the moment (new discs pads, shocks and rear springs in the last two weeks!)


Blueflame stainless steel for 325£
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Auto Addict on 11 September 2006, 06:54:28
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On Omegas the quality of exhausts goes in this order.

Genuine Vx. Very good quality, double walled so quiet too. Will last way beyond the 2 year guarantee period.

Bosal. Good aftermarket manufacturer and maker of many OE systems. However, their stuff is not as good, and often only single walled.

Timax/Walker. This is the stuff Kw*k F*t and other well known exhaust companies will sell.
You might as well make an exhaust yourself out of toilet roll holders and tin foil!
Truly awful kit. Cheaper than the rest and for a damn good reason!

What part of the country are you in?

Trade club price for a full (2 centre sections and back box) genuine system is around £230. If you are anywhere near Derby I could meet up with you and get the system at TC price for you.

Be careful with Autovaux. What they quote as a genuine Vx system will probably be a Bosal system.

Sound advice Dave. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Great choice of words, except I think the whole exercise was to get 'lack of sound' advice! ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 11 September 2006, 06:59:35
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Also, I've been quoted £275 plus VAT. at a VX dealer and it said "trade club" on the cover of the book he was reading from. Does VX think we are all mega rich in Essex and set prices accordingly?  >:(

Eddie.

Ive seen my dealer do that....look at the TC book for a price.....i suspect what they are really doing is giving you a discount, but not the price it says in the TC book....they are just using it to see roughly how much it costs them and then giving you a price somewhere between what it says in the TC book and RRP.
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 September 2006, 08:55:25
Trade club book lists retail. trade and trade club prices so its a good reference for them
Title: Re: replacement exhaust
Post by: jonathanh on 11 September 2006, 11:37:44
Progress so far:

Two dealers quote 367 but will give me 10% discount if I ask for it - remember this guys if you don't get TC

Interestingly, I asked for part numbers 'so they didn't have to look them up if I called back'

One dealer quoted 93181157,93181162 & 9157100 and the other

93181187, 90528005 &90528009

I wonder which one is right....