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Title: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 December 2006, 09:13:54
Took Mrs AA out last night.

I always run the air con on auto, never drive without it on, but last night when we went out it seemed like ages before the fan started (set at 23), and there was slight misting up inside the car before the fan cut in (around 4 minutes of driving).

When we came back to the car, been parked for about 3 hours, it was all steamed up inside.

Ran the car for several minutes until the fan cut in, took ages to clear the windscreen and front passenger windows, side rear windows didn't seem to want to clear at all.

Never had the problem of it misting up before, and fan normally comes on after about 30 secs.

I changed the pollen filter on Friday (charcoal filter) arrows facing towards the rear of car, checked the scuttle drain, perfectly clear.

Air con was re-gassed about 4/5 months ago.

Any ideas please.




Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 December 2006, 09:17:27
Weel, you have to consider that using the aircon causes condesation to form on the condensator, if the car is then turned off, the condensation will remain in the cabin area.

A short journey(s) is likely to be worse as the heater matrix never realy egts to warm and the condsation wont clear.

As a test, next time you do a journey, put the heater on full in eco mode to dry the condensator out, I bet it wont be steamed up afterwards.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 December 2006, 09:18:44
Will do, cheers Mark.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: rpont on 10 December 2006, 09:39:35
Also does the ECC aircon compressor shut of if the outside temp is below 4 degrees as it does with the manual aircon?
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 10 December 2006, 11:04:46
When the engine is cold its normal for the fans to take a while to speed up, no point blowing cold air in, so it waits until there is some heat in the heater matrix. If its really chilly outside then the time for the fans to cut in will be longer.
Pressing the demist windscreen button will overide this and blow max air on the windscreen.
This may help as well.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 December 2006, 11:38:47
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Also does the ECC aircon compressor shut of if the outside temp is below 4 degrees as it does with the manual aircon?

Don't know.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 December 2006, 11:39:48
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When the engine is cold its normal for the fans to take a while to speed up, no point blowing cold air in, so it waits until there is some heat in the heater matrix. If its really chilly outside then the time for the fans to cut in will be longer.
Pressing the demist windscreen button will overide this and blow max air on the windscreen.
This may help as well.

I tried that TD, but didn't make a lot of difference, never had a problem with it before.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: tunnie on 10 December 2006, 15:29:48
noticed the same with mine on shorter journeys, however the front screen always clears quickly.

I'll try Mark's trick with Eco on full....
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Chopsdad on 10 December 2006, 17:19:36
Me too.  Seems to be a problem for all us 2.2 CD owners  :'(

Last year I ran with a small dehumidifyer thingy used for caravans which fits neatly under the passenger seat.  It pulled out about 2 cupfulls over the winter months and I thought is was wet feet, wet coats etc ( it rains a lot up here) but could just have been the condensation from the air con.

I'm off to woolies to get another one cos for £3 I had no probs last year at all  :y
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 10 December 2006, 17:59:59
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Me too.  Seems to be a problem for all us 2.2 CD owners  :'(

Last year I ran with a small dehumidifyer thingy used for caravans which fits neatly under the passenger seat.  It pulled out about 2 cupfulls over the winter months and I thought is was wet feet, wet coats etc ( it rains a lot up here) but could just have been the condensation from the air con.

I'm off to woolies to get another one cos for £3 I had no probs last year at all  :y

£3? They haven't got one on their web site.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: TheBoy on 10 December 2006, 18:35:27
I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 10 December 2006, 18:54:51
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When the engine is cold its normal for the fans to take a while to speed up, no point blowing cold air in, so it waits until there is some heat in the heater matrix. If its really chilly outside then the time for the fans to cut in will be longer.
Pressing the demist windscreen button will overide this and blow max air on the windscreen.
This may help as well.

I tried that TD, but didn't make a lot of difference, never had a problem with it before.

I find mine mists up, but only if im sat in it, parked up and its raining......sometimes i have to sit there when i startup for a few mins waiting for windows to clear.....i never get it when im not in the car.....but then i rarely have the aircon on......except i did today just to give it some 'exercise'

Another answer could be......dont take Mrs AA out on a saturday night  ;D
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Chopsdad on 10 December 2006, 20:12:57
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Me too.  Seems to be a problem for all us 2.2 CD owners  :'(

Last year I ran with a small dehumidifyer thingy used for caravans which fits neatly under the passenger seat.  It pulled out about 2 cupfulls over the winter months and I thought is was wet feet, wet coats etc ( it rains a lot up here) but could just have been the condensation from the air con.

I'm off to woolies to get another one cos for £3 I had no probs last year at all  :y

£3? They haven't got one on their web site.

Must have replaced shelf stock with Christmas gifts - try here
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Me too.  Seems to be a problem for all us 2.2 CD owners  :'(

Last year I ran with a small dehumidifyer thingy used for caravans which fits neatly under the passenger seat.  It pulled out about 2 cupfulls over the winter months and I thought is was wet feet, wet coats etc ( it rains a lot up here) but could just have been the condensation from the air con.

I'm off to woolies to get another one cos for £3 I had no probs last year at all  :y

£3? They haven't got one on their web site.

Must have replaced shelf stock with Christmas gifts - try here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kontrol-Streamline-Moisture-Trap-Condensation-Crystals_W0QQitemZ330059835022QQihZ014QQcategoryZ108845QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  I'm sure you could find cheaper but £6 delivered isn't bad and will last the winter. 
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: tunnie on 10 December 2006, 20:13:28
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I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))

I am guessing since you have leather, there is less moisture thats going to soak into the seats.

AA, Me, Chop all have cloth seats.

Think when i come back for xmas and get another key programed up, i might borrow that if u don't mind. Was 5 of us in the car about a month ago we all got in after it was raining so imagine where is a fair bit of moisture in there.
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Chopsdad on 10 December 2006, 20:17:10
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I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))

I am guessing since you have leather, there is less moisture thats going to soak into the seats.

AA, Me, Chop all have cloth seats.

Think when i come back for xmas and get another key programed up, i might borrow that if u don't mind. Was 5 of us in the car about a month ago we all got in after it was raining so imagine where is a fair bit of moisture in there.

What you doing with my Chop in your car?
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: tunnie on 10 December 2006, 20:26:39
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I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))

I am guessing since you have leather, there is less moisture thats going to soak into the seats.

AA, Me, Chop all have cloth seats.

Think when i come back for xmas and get another key programed up, i might borrow that if u don't mind. Was 5 of us in the car about a month ago we all got in after it was raining so imagine where is a fair bit of moisture in there.

What you doing with my Chop in your car?

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: TheBoy on 10 December 2006, 20:42:25
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I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))

I am guessing since you have leather, there is less moisture thats going to soak into the seats.

AA, Me, Chop all have cloth seats.

Think when i come back for xmas and get another key programed up, i might borrow that if u don't mind. Was 5 of us in the car about a month ago we all got in after it was raining so imagine where is a fair bit of moisture in there.
Too much 'heavy petting' going on in your cars..... ;)
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 11 December 2006, 07:05:24
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I use a proper dehumifier that pulls out several cupfulls a night...  (Haven't had to use in my Omega though :))

I am guessing since you have leather, there is less moisture thats going to soak into the seats.

AA, Me, Chop all have cloth seats.

Think when i come back for xmas and get another key programed up, i might borrow that if u don't mind. Was 5 of us in the car about a month ago we all got in after it was raining so imagine where is a fair bit of moisture in there.
Too much 'heavy petting' going on in your cars..... ;)

With 5 in the car  :o That must have been cosy  ;D
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: TheBoy on 11 December 2006, 09:30:51
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With 5 in the car  :o That must have been cosy  ;D
Whatever floats your boat ;)
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: tunnie on 11 December 2006, 14:40:29
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With 5 in the car  :o That must have been cosy  ;D
Whatever floats your boat ;)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

It was to our paintballing trip... acutally when i got there i was very worried.

The car park was acually in a forest, and the road well... was a mud track, very thick mud with lots and lots of leaves on. I was quite worried it would bottom out, or get stuck.

But have to say was very impressed, i should have got a picture of the track, but loads of mud quite deep and loads of leaves, for a 2.2 without TC it handled it very, very well.

When i was leaving too, no probs. but the guy in a 300c was not getting any grip!  ;D
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Auto Addict on 11 December 2006, 15:13:54
Run around on Eco today, seems a lot better.......
Title: Re: I'm all steamed up
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 11 December 2006, 18:04:17
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Run around on Eco today, seems a lot better.......


Thats probably your answer then AA  :y

Just switch ECO off/aircon on when you go on a long run or just once a fortnight for 20 mins, you'll even get a few more mpg  :y