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Title: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 17:52:39
Just browsing on E-Gay as you do and found a couple of rear sunscreens as well as crusie modules and stalks for my 1998 model.

(I think on the mini-facelift 1998 models cruise is just a plug a play affair, no ECU re-programming though please correct me if I have been given duff info)

The 'spare' lead(s) inside the left side of the boot, are they the power leads for the sunscreen?

and as for cruise I have been told and read that the module/actuator lives on the inner wing but I cant find the harness connector....will it be lurking under the windscreen scuttle/tray?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Still waiting for late Jan early Feb to fit the 3.0 cams. Ride is good on the new irmscher springs and shocks. Need to go back to Wheels In Motion soon for the 2000mile final fine tune.

Also probably looking for a set of 17" or 18" rims...but cant find any in sensible money....most seem to be cicra £700+
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 17:54:32
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Just browsing on E-Gay as you do and found a couple of rear sunscreens as well as crusie modules and stalks for my 1998 model.

(I think on the mini-facelift 1998 models cruise is just a plug a play affair, no ECU re-programming though please correct me if I have been given duff info)

The 'spare' lead(s) inside the left side of the boot, are they the power leads for the sunscreen?

and as for cruise I have been told and read that the module/actuator lives on the inner wing but I cant find the harness connector....will it be lurking under the windscreen scuttle/tray?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Still waiting for late Jan early Feb to fit the 3.0 cams. Ride is good on the new irmscher springs and shocks. Need to go back to Wheels In Motion soon for the 2000mile final fine tune.

Also probably looking for a set of 17" or 18" rims...but cant find any in sensible money....most seem to be cicra £700+
Cruise loom is bolted to top of drivers side front suspension turret.

Rear blind loom is a 3 pin plug, up under shelf on left hand side...
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 17:57:50
Thanks fella

I just cant find the wiring plug that goes to the cruise 'doofer' that bolts to inner wing/strut turrett
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 17:59:16
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Thanks fella

I just cant find the wiring plug that goes to the cruise 'doofer' that bolts to inner wing/strut turrett
Quite big, 10 pin plug, some people confuse it for the diagnosics plug....
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 17:59:52
Take a piccy of your engine bay, and post it here....
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 18:24:31
Will do tomorrow...bit dark now :y
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Jay w on 29 December 2006, 18:24:37
i have a working cruise unit for a miggy with cable as well, PM me if interested.....

Sorry for thread hijack
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 18:27:51
Remember, the stalk needs to be the 4 wire stalk (about £30 +VAT new, not worth buying 2nd hand).

I seem to recall the cruise throttle cables are different between the different engine sizes...
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 December 2006, 18:45:32
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Remember, the stalk needs to be the 4 wire stalk (about £30 +VAT new, not worth buying 2nd hand).

I seem to recall the cruise throttle cables are different between the different engine sizes...


LEss than that from Autovaux
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 18:48:55
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Remember, the stalk needs to be the 4 wire stalk (about £30 +VAT new, not worth buying 2nd hand).

I seem to recall the cruise throttle cables are different between the different engine sizes...


LEss than that from Autovaux
inc p&p?
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 20:16:11
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i have a working cruise unit for a miggy with cable as well, PM me if interested.....

Sorry for thread hijack

PM sent
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 29 December 2006, 20:37:27
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Remember, the stalk needs to be the 4 wire stalk (about £30 +VAT new, not worth buying 2nd hand).

I seem to recall the cruise throttle cables are different between the different engine sizes...


LEss than that from Autovaux
inc p&p?


I think so
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 20:42:44
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Remember, the stalk needs to be the 4 wire stalk (about £30 +VAT new, not worth buying 2nd hand).

I seem to recall the cruise throttle cables are different between the different engine sizes...


LEss than that from Autovaux
inc p&p?


I think so
Worth knowing, esp if they are brand new, and not recon stuff should by other companies. Recon ones don't last (assuming they work at all)
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: rpont on 29 December 2006, 20:54:02
Here's a picture of where it should be sitting. It's the plug between the turrett and the brake fluid bottle.

(http://www.infohitsystems.ltd.uk/Gallery/Car/P1010054-2.JPG)
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 21:13:46
Also, the cruise unit is the cube shaped unit under brake reservoir, to left of exhaust in that piccy...
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 21:14:28
Right been outside with my torch and found the multiplug by the strut top...someone looped it under the master cylinder and back under the windscreen scuttle

However a couple of things to sort though:-

1) I have the extra electric coolant/heating pump mounted on drivers side inner wing so I need some adaptor plate from vauxhall to mount cruise actuator and electric coolant/heating pump
2) I need the cruise control type brake pedal and clutch pedal switches (i'm guessing the other plugs and wiring are present under the dash/steering colum area)

Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 21:16:50
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Right been outside with my torch and found the multiplug by the strut top...someone looped it under the master cylinder and back under the windscreen scuttle

However a couple of things to sort though:-

1) I have the extra electric coolant/heating pump mounted on drivers side inner wing so I need some adaptor plate from vauxhall to mount cruise actuator and electric coolant/heating pump
2) I need the cruise control type brake pedal and clutch pedal switches (i'm guessing the other plugs and wiring are present under the dash/steering colum area)

 
Yes, all wiring is in place...
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 21:21:24
any idea on part number or name of the adpated fitting bracket/plate for omegas that have the additional electric coolant pump?

Thanks everyone...beers and bacon sarnies waiting when you lot turn up and help me do the cam swap and fir new belt and flush out breather pipes.....keep early feb clear :y
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: rpont on 29 December 2006, 22:20:28
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Also, the cruise unit is the cube shaped unit under brake reservoir, to left of exhaust in that piccy...
Not quite, that's the steering box. I haven't got the cruise module fitted in that pic.

I have the additional coolant pump fitted and Vauxhall didn't fit the pump when cruise control was fitted (we discussed this some time back and no one who had air conditioning and cruise had the pump). Some have bought a pump holder and drilled holes in the cruise bracket to fit it. I used the existing pump bracket but bent back on itself to get the pump in. The URL below and the next 4 pics show what I did, I wasn't happy with the attempt in the first two pics so redid it for the next two. It's a bit of trial and error to get the bracket just right so that the pump isn't touching the engine pipes and is clear of the air filter box.

http://www.infohitsystems.ltd.uk/Gallery/dirwrap_photo.sh?rt=wrap&path=Car/P1010054.JPG
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2006, 22:25:36
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Also, the cruise unit is the cube shaped unit under brake reservoir, to left of exhaust in that piccy...
Not quite, that's the steering box. I haven't got the cruise module fitted in that pic.

I have the additional coolant pump fitted and Vauxhall didn't fit the pump when cruise control was fitted (we discussed this some time back and no one who had air conditioning and cruise had the pump). Some have bought a pump holder and drilled holes in the cruise bracket to fit it. I used the existing pump bracket but bent back on itself to get the pump in. The URL below and the next 4 pics show what I did, I wasn't happy with the attempt in the first two pics so redid it for the next two. It's a bit of trial and error to get the bracket just right so that the pump isn't touching the engine pipes and is clear of the air filter box.

http://www.infohitsystems.ltd.uk/Gallery/dirwrap_photo.sh?rt=wrap&path=Car/P1010054.JPG
Doh! Serves me right for only glancing at picture  :-[
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: rpont on 29 December 2006, 22:56:52
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Doh! Serves me right for only glancing at picture  :-[
:)
You had me scratching my head for a bit there. I was sure I hadn't got the module when I took the pic of where the breather box went before I took it off. With the heads missing from the engine I can see how a quick glance could come up with that idea though.
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 December 2006, 23:01:43
ok next question(s).....

rear sunblind thingy....nothing in my haynes manual about fitting/removing etc

Is it an easy retro-fit upgrade...anyone got a switch going?

Thanks again
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Chopsdad on 29 December 2006, 23:14:59
You could Email this guy selling a leather interior from an Elite - switch may still be in the dash if you're lucky http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Leather-Interior_W0QQitemZ300065124586QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: hotel21 on 30 December 2006, 10:24:46
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Also, the cruise unit is the cube shaped unit under brake reservoir, to left of exhaust in that piccy...
......I have the additional coolant pump fitted and Vauxhall didn't fit the pump when cruise control was fitted (we discussed this some time back and no one who had air conditioning and cruise had the pump). .....


Sorry to butt in - check out the howtoo for fitting cruise to a prefacelift.  Shows where the various bits are and what they look like.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1166374649            :y

VX DID fit cruise, climate control aircon and the extra pump from the factory.  All parts to retrofit are available.  

Mark DTM tells me that the mounting rubber on the end of the radiator for the similar pump that is there is available from a scrappies and can be fitted to the cruise frame to do the same job.

HtH

B
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2006, 12:28:58
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Also, the cruise unit is the cube shaped unit under brake reservoir, to left of exhaust in that piccy...
......I have the additional coolant pump fitted and Vauxhall didn't fit the pump when cruise control was fitted (we discussed this some time back and no one who had air conditioning and cruise had the pump). .....


Sorry to butt in - check out the howtoo for fitting cruise to a prefacelift.  Shows where the various bits are and what they look like.

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I might be missing something here but ..... My mini face lift Elite has cruise & A/C but the electric aux pump isn't fitted under the header tank, it's at the top of the rad - passenger side.
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: rpont on 30 December 2006, 13:07:42
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I might be missing something here but ..... My mini face lift Elite has cruise & A/C but the electric aux pump isn't fitted under the header tank, it's at the top of the rad - passenger side.
That's the one for radiator cooling, all the v6's have it I believe.
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 30 December 2006, 13:31:47
I lost out on one of the sunscreens on e-gay and having taken a second look at the parcel shelf and under tray seems like a lot of messing about for something not really going to use much....was thinking about bright sunlight on my young son's eyes.

Any tips on retro fitting?
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2006, 14:20:44
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I lost out on one of the sunscreens on e-gay and having taken a second look at the parcel shelf and under tray seems like a lot of messing about for something not really going to use much....was thinking about bright sunlight on my young son's eyes.

Any tips on retro fitting?
The only time I lower mine is when I'm reversing up to a wall (when my tow ball isn't fitted  ;) )
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2006, 14:22:42
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I might be missing something here but ..... My mini face lift Elite has cruise & A/C but the electric aux pump isn't fitted under the header tank, it's at the top of the rad - passenger side.
That's the one for radiator cooling, all the v6's have it I believe.
:-/ So what's the electric pump under the header tank for then? I thought it was just an age thing that dictated where the aux cooling pump went.  :-/
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 16:11:33
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I lost out on one of the sunscreens on e-gay and having taken a second look at the parcel shelf and under tray seems like a lot of messing about for something not really going to use much....was thinking about bright sunlight on my young son's eyes.

Any tips on retro fitting?
As per Haynes, though you may or may not have to remove trim from pillars (its tight, but can sometimes be done without....
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2006, 16:17:24
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I lost out on one of the sunscreens on e-gay and having taken a second look at the parcel shelf and under tray seems like a lot of messing about for something not really going to use much....was thinking about bright sunlight on my young son's eyes.

Any tips on retro fitting?
As per Haynes, though you may or may not have to remove trim from pillars (its tight, but can sometimes be done without....
Last summer I eventually removed the blind/rear parcel shelf to look at why my screen wasn't rolling up properly. I had everything possible removed from the back of the car and the bugger still wouldn't come out. It came out when I lost my temper with it and really pulled it. A bit of the window glue was holding the parcel shelf in!  >:(
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Essex_Andy on 30 December 2006, 16:27:53
Sorry for being a dumb arse but cant find the sunblind section/removal and re-fit in my haynes manual?
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 16:54:30
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Sorry for being a dumb arse but cant find the sunblind section/removal and re-fit in my haynes manual?
Sorry, look at rear parcel shelf removal...  ...difference it 3 bolts that protrude into boot space if you have a blind as well....
Title: Re: Worthwhile upgrades?
Post by: Jay w on 30 December 2006, 17:33:20
this may help a bit.....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152745304