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Title: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 January 2007, 15:01:09
Not the HBV but the rather oil cooler cover has a 4mm x 4mm hole in it just by the front banjo bolt.

Is it possible to buy just the cover or perhaps get the hole welded over?
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 January 2007, 16:07:54
Blimey, that must be one hell of a leak!

....must be a few on here who have a spare cover as the kit comes with one when you do a replacement,

Be warned though....its not un-common for the rear cooler to plate fixing nut to become seized and strip the threads when you remove it resulting in you needing a new cooler as well....
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 January 2007, 16:26:34
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Blimey, that must be one hell of a leak!

....must be a few on here who have a spare cover as the kit comes with one when you do a replacement,

Be warned though....its not un-common for the rear cooler to plate fixing nut to become seized and strip the threads when you remove it resulting in you needing a new cooler as well....

The car dumped nearly all the coolant over City Road in about 10 seconds!!

Finish stripping everthing off tomorrow ready for the weekend when everything goes back together.

I have the DVD re cambelt but any tips on removing and refitting cams?
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: tunnie on 29 January 2007, 18:33:32
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Blimey, that must be one hell of a leak!

....must be a few on here who have a spare cover as the kit comes with one when you do a replacement,

Be warned though....its not un-common for the rear cooler to plate fixing nut to become seized and strip the threads when you remove it resulting in you needing a new cooler as well....

Or snapping the bolt off, which I did to TB's project  :(

Andy - If you take the oil cooler out, my advice fit new bolts  :y
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 January 2007, 18:38:24
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Blimey, that must be one hell of a leak!

....must be a few on here who have a spare cover as the kit comes with one when you do a replacement,

Be warned though....its not un-common for the rear cooler to plate fixing nut to become seized and strip the threads when you remove it resulting in you needing a new cooler as well....

Or snapping the bolt off, which I did to TB's project  :(

Andy - If you take the oil cooler out, my advice fit new bolts  :y

New banjo bolts?
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 January 2007, 18:40:54
cant remember if I asked but anyone got a trade card I can use to get cambelt kit and water pump plus other sundries like inlet mainfold seals etc?

On a side note are the gates belt kits and other brand water pumps on e-gay worthwhile?
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 29 January 2007, 18:40:59
yup, new banjos, and new seals for coolant bridge.

soz, i chucked my spare plate away about 3 weeks ago...
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 29 January 2007, 18:46:38
the original banjo bolts came out fine

So far my shopping list looks:

Oil filter (had to remove old one to loosen oil cooler lines)
Cooler cover
Cooler banjo washers
Coolant bridge banjo washers
Cam cover bolt O-rings
Oil filler O-ring
Inlet manifold seals
Plenum O-rings
Various tubes of sealant
Spark plugs
Antifreeze
Waterpump
Complete cam belt kit

Ready to go are:
3.0 cams
Cam oil seals
cam cover gaskets
Aux drive belt

Egg Credit card people love me :(
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: tunnie on 29 January 2007, 18:52:53
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the original banjo bolts came out fine

They come out fine, but going in can snap. We were lucky on TheBoys project they did'nt got that far in, I was able to get them out again, after having a lamp smashed over my head  ::)
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 29 January 2007, 18:54:08
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the original banjo bolts came out fine

They come out fine, but going in can snap. We were lucky on TheBoys project they did'nt got that far in, I was able to get them out again, after having a lamp smashed over my head  ::)
i've fixed that leadlamp now - you head ain't as solid as i thought... ;D
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 January 2007, 20:45:37
Never known a banjo bolt snap......so no need to replace....

Its not these that strip the cooler threads....its the bigger flat nut that secures the cooler to the plate...
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 29 January 2007, 21:39:35
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Never known a banjo bolt snap......so no need to replace....

Its not these that strip the cooler threads....its the bigger flat nut that secures the cooler to the plate...
You know what Tunnie is like shearing bolts ;D

Still, I can't blame Tunnie - he hasn't the strength to shear a bolt intentionally.... ;)
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: rpont on 29 January 2007, 22:25:59
Isn't there a stretch on the banjo bolts for the oil cooler? If so and they have been out before they could shear.
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: tunnie on 29 January 2007, 23:30:27
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Never known a banjo bolt snap......so no need to replace....

Its not these that strip the cooler threads....its the bigger flat nut that secures the cooler to the plate...
You know what Tunnie is like shearing bolts ;D

Still, I can't blame Tunnie - he hasn't the strength to shear a bolt intentionally.... ;)

I just look at a bolt and it falls to pieces!  :'(
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 January 2007, 10:33:41
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Isn't there a stretch on the banjo bolts for the oil cooler? If so and they have been out before they could shear.

No stretch....there is an angle tighten but, this is to crush the sealing washer...
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 February 2007, 17:03:52
Here's the pic of the old cooler cover...spot anything unusual?!?!?!

Just waiting on the 30mm spanner to arrive from e-bay then can get the cam belt back on(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/Road-Riders/Omega/oilcoolercover.jpg)
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 02 February 2007, 18:08:42
Its only supposed to have 2 holes....
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 February 2007, 18:14:07
all round that corner the underside is very corroded....but seeing the car is 8 1/2 years old not bad I guess?
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 02 February 2007, 18:16:39
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all round that corner the underside is very corroded....but seeing the car is 8 1/2 years old not bad I guess?
My guess is the coolant has been neglected....
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 February 2007, 18:21:11
The unknown joys of buying a used a car but has got fully stamped book with receipts. I know the garage too
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: TheBoy on 02 February 2007, 19:03:32
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The unknown joys of buying a used a car but has got fully stamped book with receipts. I know the garage too
and now you know their workmanship....
Title: Re: Found the failure re coolant leak
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 February 2007, 21:15:51
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Never known a banjo bolt snap......so no need to replace....

Its not these that strip the cooler threads....its the bigger flat nut that secures the cooler to the plate...

I had a banjo bolt snap under v little pressure on my project Elite...

Thankfully managed to get one of those rounded bolt sockets tight over he snapped body of the bolt and remove it...