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Title: Omega Lowering
Post by: sjc59 on 20 February 2007, 18:59:29
Hi guys looking to uprate the suspension on the omega got a few questions can anyone recomend a good set up on a budget, plus its an esate are the setups different between saloon and estate? Also will a 2000 reg ex police mv6 estate have the self leveling rear suspension?

Any help would be good?
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: sounds2k on 20 February 2007, 20:22:04
to my knowledge, the front springs are the same - but the back ones are different between estate and saloon. Shocks might be self-levelling - have a look for the air pipe connected to them ...
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: sjc59 on 20 February 2007, 21:15:40
Cheers mate any info one where i can get a cheap but still good setup from?
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: Admin on 20 February 2007, 22:37:20
Depends on your budget really....

The shocks and springs are very different on the saloon & estate.
It all depends on whether you want to go with original height or lower.

If lowering, look at some Eibach springs (£150 ish for a set).

As for shocks, well I have ordered some Bilsteins at £172 delivered for all 4 from Balance Motorsport.
Once fitted I will report on them (they are going with a set of Irsmscher springs on a 98 MV6).

Oh and a 2000 ex plod may well have self levelling rear shocks. Just look at them, the giveaway is the air pipe going on to the side.

Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: theolodian on 21 February 2007, 11:37:25
What front struts would you use with levelling rears?  I'm getting that diagonal wobble  >:(
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: sjc59 on 22 February 2007, 11:38:54
Ok let mw know how your setup goes, wont be doing mine just yet, just getting the facts so when i do have the money i can get it sorted asap.
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 February 2007, 11:42:43
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What front struts would you use with levelling rears?  I'm getting that diagonal wobble  >:(

Bilsteins.....or Vx....the wobble is probably becasue the strutts are buggered....
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: elvin315 on 22 February 2007, 17:25:57
How do lowering springs affect the camber? More to the positive or the negative? Are those Alignment Bolts I see on eBay necessary? And are those springs stiffer than stock, ot are they the same? I'd like to lower my car but don't want to give up the ride and handling I enjoy now. I have a 2001 Catera Sport which is supposed to have a suspension similar to the MV6. Is that the sport version of the Omega?

I'll shut up now.

Elvin
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: theolodian on 22 February 2007, 22:33:35
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What front struts would you use with levelling rears?  I'm getting that diagonal wobble  >:(

Bilsteins.....or Vx....the wobble is probably becasue the strutts are buggered....
Cheers, I guess I'll start checking prices.  The back feels ok, but the front is very soft.  Especially the ns, which makes sense.  Are there strut mounts/bearings to worry about?  The bolts are all that won't be replaced at this rate!  ::)
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 February 2007, 08:50:23
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How do lowering springs affect the camber? More to the positive or the negative? Are those Alignment Bolts I see on eBay necessary? And are those springs stiffer than stock, ot are they the same? I'd like to lower my car but don't want to give up the ride and handling I enjoy now. I have a 2001 Catera Sport which is supposed to have a suspension similar to the MV6. Is that the sport version of the Omega?

I'll shut up now.

Elvin

Depends on the springs....the irmscher spring rates are similar to standard but 30mm shorter so would not have a major impact on the ride quality......similarly the Bilsteins give a similar ride quality to....hence the recommendation.

Basicaly, better handlig due to lower centre of gravity and the new shocks (most are past their best by the time they have done 50K miles).

Front camber can be set on the car (using the bottom strutt bolts) and the rear is not massively affected due to the position of the spring on the trailing arm.
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 February 2007, 08:51:00
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What front struts would you use with levelling rears?  I'm getting that diagonal wobble  >:(

Bilsteins.....or Vx....the wobble is probably becasue the strutts are buggered....
Cheers, I guess I'll start checking prices.  The back feels ok, but the front is very soft.  Especially the ns, which makes sense.  Are there strut mounts/bearings to worry about?  The bolts are all that won't be replaced at this rate!  ::)


There are top bearings, if you can get them cheap enough then change them.....they dont tend to cause to much trouble though.
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: theolodian on 25 February 2007, 09:10:46
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What front struts would you use with levelling rears?  I'm getting that diagonal wobble  >:(

Bilsteins.....or Vx....the wobble is probably becasue the strutts are buggered....
Cheers, I guess I'll start checking prices.  The back feels ok, but the front is very soft.  Especially the ns, which makes sense.  Are there strut mounts/bearings to worry about?  The bolts are all that won't be replaced at this rate!  ::)


There are top bearings, if you can get them cheap enough then change them.....they dont tend to cause to much trouble though.
Thanks for the help, the steering seems much better now with the tightened steering box.  Maybe my wishbones aren't as bad as I thought!  

The bad news is all my shocks are shot.  So the Q becomes,

1) Vx fronts and Vx air rears (£230),
2) Bilstein fronts and Vx air rears (£260), or
3) all Bilsteins and disconnect air system (£175)?

I like a good handling car, it is REALLY floaty at the moment, but I don't toss it around a lot and I want it to be comfortable on the motorway.  I bought it for long trips.  I am tempted by option #2.  I am worried that #3 would be too stiff.  
Title: Re: Omega Lowering
Post by: theolodian on 02 March 2007, 13:07:21
BTT

Now I'm thinking option 1