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Title: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 March 2007, 18:10:54
Some may recall my posts, about when everytime I came to a stop, the autobox would "jerk" the whole car, like it was throwing itself into 1st gear too fiercely.. it wasn't good.

Well, I have just resolved the problem in ten minutes, and now it's as smooth as a baby's bum, the problem has totally gone away.

Basically, just checked fluid level. Jacked up drivers side, placed bowl under grearbox and undid the filler. Whoooooosh! Lots of fluid came out, which obviously it shouldn't have done. Once it had stopped trickling, I squeeezed best part of a 1 litre bottle in there, and then lowered the car to level ground, so it would drain off to the correct level and settle.

It turns out, that some muppet had previously put 1+ litres too much in the box! The problem's now totally gone away, I'm really chuffed  ;D

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Post by: tunnie on 09 March 2007, 18:13:01
Nice one James  :D
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Post by: Admin on 09 March 2007, 18:18:28
About time you had a positive result mate!  :)
Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: TheBoy on 09 March 2007, 18:33:07
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Some may recall my posts, about when everytime I came to a stop, the autobox would "jerk" the whole car, like it was throwing itself into 1st gear too fiercely.. it wasn't good.

Well, I have just resolved the problem in ten minutes, and now it's as smooth as a baby's bum, the problem has totally gone away.

Basically, just checked fluid level. Jacked up drivers side, placed bowl under grearbox and undid the filler. Whoooooosh! Lots of fluid came out, which obviously it shouldn't have done. Once it had stopped trickling, I squeeezed best part of a 1 litre bottle in there, and then lowered the car to level ground, so it would drain off to the correct level and settle.

It turns out, that some muppet had previously put 1+ litres too much in the box! The problem's now totally gone away, I'm really chuffed  ;D

If it was old fluid, that behaviour is expected - the oil volume increases as it breaks down....
Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: Dave-C on 09 March 2007, 18:33:24
Did you take the plug out with the engine NOT running?  If so, then fluid should run out.  Reason, fluid level is checked with engine running, after taking the lever from P to 1 several times, therefore the valve body, torque converter, pump cooler pipes n' all take up the fluid from the sump.. So when checked the level should only be level at the bottom of the filler plug...  if not running, fluid settles to the sump and runs out when you wizz the plug out..

Hope this helps..

DC
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 09 March 2007, 21:51:22
Well done James....excellent result  :y
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2007, 08:26:54
I trust you followed the How to....i.e. engine warm and running....

Note, as oil breaks down its volume tends to increase......its a sign the oil does need changing if the level is to high.
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Post by: theolodian on 10 March 2007, 08:34:13
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I trust you followed the How to....i.e. engine warm and running....

Note, as oil breaks down its volume tends to increase......its a sign the oil does need changing if the level is to high.
I took mine to get the oil changed.  They refused.  Said it was filled for life and the dealer needs to go in with Tech2 to do something.  I'm assuming that at 152K the oil isn't great, but I don't want to cause problems.
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Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 March 2007, 08:58:48
The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
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Post by: theolodian on 10 March 2007, 09:04:43
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....they dont know what they are talking about....
Yeah, well, can't really get it changed if they refuse the work.  :-?  Tough finding a decent repair shop.  >:(
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Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2007, 10:23:41
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The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a level sensor (if there was surely it would flag up g/box on MID?), so how the hell is a Tech2 going to help....  ....I love dealers  >:(
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Post by: theolodian on 10 March 2007, 10:27:14
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The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a level sensor (if there was surely it would flag up g/box on MID?), so how the hell is a Tech2 going to help....  ....I love dealers  >:(
Wasn't about a level sensor, something about putting it into service mode?!?  They wanted me to go to the dealer, but I'm worried I'll come out with more problems than when I go in if I go to a dealer.
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Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2007, 10:37:47
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The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a level sensor (if there was surely it would flag up g/box on MID?), so how the hell is a Tech2 going to help....  ....I love dealers  >:(
Wasn't about a level sensor, something about putting it into service mode?!?  They wanted me to go to the dealer, but I'm worried I'll come out with more problems than when I go in if I go to a dealer.
The gearbox has a service mode  :o

My Tech2 must be faulty then....

Muppets.
Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 March 2007, 12:08:26
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I trust you followed the How to....i.e. engine warm and running....

Note, as oil breaks down its volume tends to increase......its a sign the oil does need changing if the level is to high.

Yup, engine was warm and running..

the ATF that came out, was very red, and clean..
Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: Gaffers on 10 March 2007, 18:46:37
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The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a level sensor (if there was surely it would flag up g/box on MID?), so how the hell is a Tech2 going to help....  ....I love dealers  >:(
Wasn't about a level sensor, something about putting it into service mode?!?  They wanted me to go to the dealer, but I'm worried I'll come out with more problems than when I go in if I go to a dealer.
The gearbox has a service mode  :o

My Tech2 must be faulty then....

Muppets.

I spoke to Vx about this and they said it was to make sure the temperature was correct when they checked the level.  Does anyone know if they are full of s%*t?

Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: Dave-C on 10 March 2007, 18:58:52
Oh! Yes my friend, Oh! Yes, they are full of it, over many instances,  it's like management training, "Think Latterally find another angle to the common, then enforce it" It's a power thing! Tar Sirs..

DC

Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2007, 20:05:52
A short drive will get oil up to temp...
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 March 2007, 23:17:45
According to Mr. Haynes the fluid should ideally be at 60 deg.c but can be between 45 and 85. I can only assume that a computer is required to tell them the temperature because their staff have no common sense.

Why not just touch the sump? If it's only warm to the touch, it's too cold. If it takes the skin off your hand it's too hot. Anything in between is fine...  ::)

Kevin


Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: BigCat on 11 March 2007, 01:07:17
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The oil will be pretty bad....as for Tech 2.....they dont know what they are talking about....
I'd have to double check, but I don't think there is a level sensor (if there was surely it would flag up g/box on MID?), so how the hell is a Tech2 going to help....  ....I love dealers  >:(
I was quoted £300 to change the auto trans oil from Phoenix VX - apparently its no good just changing the fluid, you need to give it a complete service - thats what the receptionist said  ;)
Title: Re: Omega Autobox - today's easy repair!
Post by: Dave-C on 11 March 2007, 07:58:51
So now receptionists are autobox mechanics too are they?

The lads on the forum know best, it's been proven so many times, even since I recently joined..

DC