Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Markie on 10 March 2007, 15:56:50

Title: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Markie on 10 March 2007, 15:56:50
Okay some of you will know ive had a v6 vectra for about 3 months now and posted a few times about removing oil cooler ( without bending pipes )

The projec has been delayed due to being involved in selecting people for redundancy and a more pressing rover turbo project.

But its back to the veccy today and the cooler is out - and boy what a mess. Most definately failed  :y :y

So im now at the point of cleaning and rebuilding. With fingers crossed it starts (smoothly)

So whats the most effective method of cleaning - should i just remove all the gunk that i can physically and proceed to rebuild - allowing the many coolant and oil changes i plan to do almost daily when i get it started to clear it out.....

Or is there another more sensible method like removing as many parts and hand cleaning rather than the coolant flush process and oil change process churning the goo out ?

Thanks

Markie


ps ive removed and replaced the thermostat, removed and cleaned header tank and all radiator hoses but theres a tremendous amount of goo in the radiator - i do have a brand new one should i just fit it or ( seeing as its physically in good nick) try flushing?
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 March 2007, 16:08:30
Only fit the new rad, once the rest of the system is as clean as you can get it, or the new one could get shagged too ;D
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Dave-C on 10 March 2007, 17:06:33
Yeah!  save the best 'til last..  It will be nice to have the piece of mind, new rad' totally un polluted, there's no telling what all the gunk n' stuff might do to the silver solder..  theoretically nothing , but why chance it?

DC

Keep cleaning!  Cinderella.. Then Ye shall go to the ball..

Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Markie on 10 March 2007, 17:40:04
...yep the cleaning continues......

Just in case any one doubts its cooler failure..or anyone has not seen what oil cooler failure looks like....

 :o

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/markiec23/DSCF3058.jpg)

and once the cooler is out here is the left behind mess

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/markiec23/DSCF3059.jpg)



Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: tunnie on 10 March 2007, 18:12:19
looks like choccie sauce!  ;D ;D

Good luck on the cleaning up job Markie  :y
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Markie on 10 March 2007, 18:36:25
Quote
looks like choccie sauce!  ;D ;D

Good luck on the cleaning up job Markie  :y

cheers Tunnie

I can assure you it doesnt taste like it  :(
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: TheBoy on 10 March 2007, 20:04:06
Quote
...yep the cleaning continues......

Just in case any one doubts its cooler failure..or anyone has not seen what oil cooler failure looks like....

 :o

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/markiec23/DSCF3058.jpg)

and once the cooler is out here is the left behind mess

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/markiec23/DSCF3059.jpg)



Now theres a familiar sight....
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 10 March 2007, 20:53:28
Having only done 2 of these oil coolers one on an 3litre Omega and the other on  3litre calibra, on both of these to clean the system out we poured a bottle of bleach in the cooling system topped up with water, ran engine for twenty mins, then drained the entire water system and flushed it through with clean water a couple of times again running for twenty mins, the system on both cars was clear of all oily gunk then and on the Omega it actually got the digital climate cntrol functioning properly again,
lot of people will shout and scream you cant put bleach in but its worked for us!!!
Omegatoy
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Markie on 10 March 2007, 21:01:24
Quote
Having only done 2 of these oil coolers one on an 3litre Omega and the other on  3litre calibra, on both of these to clean the system out we poured a bottle of bleach in the cooling system topped up with water, ran engine for twenty mins, then drained the entire water system and flushed it through with clean water a couple of times again running for twenty mins, the system on both cars was clear of all oily gunk then and on the Omega it actually got the digital climate cntrol functioning properly again,
lot of people will shout and scream you cant put bleach in but its worked for us!!!
Omegatoy

yeah heard this a few times as a solution - only running for 20 minutes as you say before flushing with good vx red stuff  :y
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Andy B on 10 March 2007, 21:30:21
Quote
......
lot of people will shout and scream you cant put bleach in but its worked for us!!!
Omegatoy

You can't put a straight 6 in an Omega B either!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Dave-C on 10 March 2007, 21:45:03
Just had a flash back to the 80's, we had used to use bleach to flush the shite out of Fords, replenish with anti freeze 50% and add an egg cup of brake fluid to protect the hoses and to lubricate the water pump bearing...  Never had this problem with my beetles though  ;D ;D ;D ;D
DC
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 10 March 2007, 22:55:32
Quote
Quote
......
lot of people will shout and scream you cant put bleach in but its worked for us!!!
Omegatoy

You can't put a straight 6 in an Omega B either!  ;)  ;D

 ;D :y ;D :y
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: tunnie on 10 March 2007, 23:19:09
Quote
3litre calibra,
Omegatoy

3.0 Calibra? Take it that was a custom job I thought they only ever put the 2.5 V6 in that?

As Omegatoy says try some bleach in there Markie, should have done it on TheBoys project, that was chucking out oil in the coolant for days!
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Omegatoy on 10 March 2007, 23:21:26
Quote
Quote
3litre calibra,
Omegatoy

3.0 Calibra? Take it that was a custom job I thought they only ever put the 2.5 V6 in that?

As Omegatoy says try some bleach in there Markie, should have done it on TheBoys project, that was chucking out oil in the coolant for days!

It was a 2.5 till it went bang so the 3 litre Omega lump was installed!!!!
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: MaxV6 on 10 March 2007, 23:32:54
Quote
Quote
3litre calibra,
Omegatoy

3.0 Calibra? Take it that was a custom job I thought they only ever put the 2.5 V6 in that?


Remember which nice man (or nut job,  to anyone NOT terminally afflicted with 6 cylinderitis) you're talking to....

Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: Andy B on 11 March 2007, 09:41:19
Quote
.....
 and add an egg cup of brake fluid to protect the hoses and to lubricate the water pump bearing...  
Wahey! So I'm not the only one that's heard of it!  :)  :y
Title: Re: That oil cooler is off !!!
Post by: hotel21 on 11 March 2007, 12:05:41
Quote
Quote
.....
 and add an egg cup of brake fluid to protect the hoses and to lubricate the water pump bearing...  
Wahey! So I'm not the only one that's heard of it!  :)  :y

Nope, done that a few times as well....