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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: stuvaux on 21 March 2007, 12:39:27
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i have found this tech 2 on e-bay
just wondering what you think of it......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110102259231&rd=1&rd=1
i presume it can only read the codes, not update the autobox software/remove fault codes from the system
thanks, stu
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standard cheapo tech2.
s/w is dire, but mostly works (not always in english though), and you must have a proper com port on laptop, usb adapters rarely work.
can read most codes, and attempt to clear them.
cannot do upgrades etc...
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As the dealers wil charge £70 or so to plug their proper Tech II they're cheap enough to pay for themselves if you diagnose and repair any fault.
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As the dealers wil charge £70 or so to plug their proper Tech II they're cheap enough to pay for themselves if you diagnose and repair any fault.
OTOH there is the paperclip, and it can cost up to £100 for a usable serial port card if your laptop doesnt have one.
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thanks for the advice
is it only the genuine tech 2 that can do upgrades then? or is there a just as good, but none genuine version?
stu
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thanks for the advice
is it only the genuine tech 2 that can do upgrades then? or is there a just as good, but none genuine version?
stu
User Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
A real Tech2 is not finacially viable to buy.
Upgrades, such as autobox/cruise/etc, need a valid TIS subscription as well under real Tech2, so I imagine still required under any other cheapo device that may possibly be able to do it.
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OTOH there is the paperclip, .
Depends how old your car is as to whether you can.
and it can cost up to £100 for a usable serial port card if your laptop doesnt have one .
Fair point. I just borrowed my oldish Dad's lap top that already has a serial port.
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so the best way really (esp. for upgrades), is to pay someone who knows what they're doing.......
stu
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so the best way really (esp. for upgrades), is to pay someone who knows what they're doing.......
stu
From the tools I have seen, yes. And I looked at a lot of tools before getting the proper one...
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so the best way really (esp. for upgrades), is to pay someone who knows what they're doing.......
stu
From the tools I have seen, yes. And I looked at a lot of tools before getting the proper one...
so how much did the genuine one cost you then....?
stu
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so the best way really (esp. for upgrades), is to pay someone who knows what they're doing.......
stu
From the tools I have seen, yes. And I looked at a lot of tools before getting the proper one...
so how much did the genuine one cost you then....?
stu
They are several thousand new....
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stu
User Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
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stuUser Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
Can it do 'tech1' type cars that have 16 pin connector. I'm thinking specifically early Omegas?
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stuUser Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
Can it do 'tech1' type cars that have 16 pin connector. I'm thinking specifically early Omegas?
If thats the Aldl type connector - yes - I dont have the lead and so can not try it, but its on the menu. THe guy I got it from had the leads just I never got one - yet]
It lists Omega A from 87 - only engine management, later years more options show.
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Mine has paid for itself today by clearing the airbag light of my Astra - eventually! :-?
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OTOH there is the paperclip, .
Depends how old your car is as to whether you can.
If you can't do the paperclip then you should be able to use many generic OBD2 scanners, and those are readily available in USB.
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stuUser Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
Can it do 'tech1' type cars that have 16 pin connector. I'm thinking specifically early Omegas?
If thats the Aldl type connector - yes - I dont have the lead and so can not try it, but its on the menu. THe guy I got it from had the leads just I never got one - yet]
It lists Omega A from 87 - only engine management, later years more options show.
The early Omegas have the same connector as later ones - the OBD/EOBD type, not the earlier ALDL type. The real Tech2 can read most systems on earlier ones, but not early 2.0l ECUs or IR type alarm. Just wondered if yours could?
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OTOH there is the paperclip, .
Depends how old your car is as to whether you can.
If you can't do the paperclip then you should be able to use many generic OBD2 scanners, and those are readily available in USB.
Most of the generic stuff, esp the cheaper stuff, can only do engine....
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stuUser Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
Can it do 'tech1' type cars that have 16 pin connector. I'm thinking specifically early Omegas?
If thats the Aldl type connector - yes - I dont have the lead and so can not try it, but its on the menu. THe guy I got it from had the leads just I never got one - yet]
It lists Omega A from 87 - only engine management, later years more options show.
The early Omegas have the same connector as later ones - the OBD/EOBD type, not the earlier ALDL type. The real Tech2 can read most systems on earlier ones, but not early 2.0l ECUs or IR type alarm. Just wondered if yours could?
Menu for 1991 Shows : Engine Management, Auto Trans, Info Display, Anti-Theft
Next Menu: 2.0 - 20SE Motronic 1.5, 2.0 - C20NE Motronic 1.5, 2.0 - C20NEJ Motronic 1.5, 2.4 - C24NE Motronic 1.5, 2.6 - C26NE Motronic 1.5
Not tried any of these - nor the Senator or any other Vx Model only two Omega's 99
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stuUser Iggy21uk has a better non genuine one, around £250 ish I think. Still not sure if it can (yet) do upgrade type stuff.
No it cannot do upgrades . Shows / resets codes, shows live data & more
If I had an had the lead can can do cars that need a tech 1
Can it do 'tech1' type cars that have 16 pin connector. I'm thinking specifically early Omegas?
If thats the Aldl type connector - yes - I dont have the lead and so can not try it, but its on the menu. THe guy I got it from had the leads just I never got one - yet]
It lists Omega A from 87 - only engine management, later years more options show.
The early Omegas have the same connector as later ones - the OBD/EOBD type, not the earlier ALDL type. The real Tech2 can read most systems on earlier ones, but not early 2.0l ECUs or IR type alarm. Just wondered if yours could?
Menu for 1991 Shows : Engine Management, Auto Trans, Info Display, Anti-Theft
Next Menu: 2.0 - 20SE Motronic 1.5, 2.0 - C20NE Motronic 1.5, 2.0 - C20NEJ Motronic 1.5, 2.4 - C24NE Motronic 1.5, 2.6 - C26NE Motronic 1.5
Not tried any of these - nor the Senator or any other Vx Model only two Omega's 99
And an early Omega? ie 1994 one?
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TB, Would you buy one of these if you didn't have your propper VX Tech II ????? That's my BIG question!!
Dave C
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TB, Would you buy one of these if you didn't have your propper VX Tech II ????? That's my BIG question!!
Dave C
I would probably get the one iggy has got.
But if that wasn't an option, would I get the £30 ebay special :-/ Possibly not, as my car can be paperclipped. Unless I fancied a project to rewrite the software...
I bought my Tech2 predominately to be able to assist other members of the forum that helped me out (VxON at the time, now here). I know what charges Vx charge, and think its unfair. I would like to do all Tech2 work for nothing, but alas I have to recoup some of the costs (it will never, ever pay for itself), so I set what I think are very reasonable prices.
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TB I got that! I think your prices are great, by the way.. I'll probably get the gearbox upgrade if we meet sometime this year... Hoping to catch a cam belt party or other Sooooon :y
I quite fancy one of these e-bay jobbies, if they'll work on Vista, I've contacted the vendor to see if it will. I will post the reply on here..... :y
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OTOH there is the paperclip, .
Depends how old your car is as to whether you can.
If you can't do the paperclip then you should be able to use many generic OBD2 scanners, and those are readily available in USB.
Most of the generic stuff, esp the cheaper stuff, can only do engine....
Also true of the paperclip, hence the comparison. Anything other than the engine can wait IMO ;)
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TB I got that! I think your prices are great, by the way.. I'll probably get the gearbox upgrade if we meet sometime this year... Hoping to catch a cam belt party or other Sooooon :y
I quite fancy one of these e-bay jobbies, if they'll work on Vista, I've contacted the vendor to see if it will. I will post the reply on here..... :y
Most Vista capable laptops lack serial ports. And with Vista being slower than XP (on same hardware, and fresh build), its always going to be a struggle...
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When I can get a paper clip to give me info like this then I know
I wasted my money ;D
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/AS7.jpg)
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n21/iggy21_2006/AS6.jpg)
PS. not from my car - the one I have from my car are on mt laptop
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When I can get a paper clip to give me info like this then I know
I wasted my money ;D
Hey, if you want that info then fine. However, it loses its novelty after a while and you can't do anything with it. It runs or it doesn't run. If it doesn't run 9 times out of 10 the paperclip will tell you. Even MAF and lambda issues show up with a paperclip.
If it was a modified turbo engine, or tunable ECU, then it would be different.
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When I can get a paper clip to give me info like this then I know
I wasted my money ;D
Hey, if you want that info then fine. However, it loses its novelty after a while and you can't do anything with it. It runs or it doesn't run. If it doesn't run 9 times out of 10 the paperclip will tell you. Even MAF and lambda issues show up with a paperclip.
If it was a modified turbo engine, or tunable ECU, then it would be different.
I have no problem with anyone who finds the paperclip check ok.
As for running 9 times out of 10 its never failed to run even with the
USB to Serial [ UK made] I've had it 3 months and got one software upgrade. Personally reset one airbag. Don't get this mixed up with the £30.00 +/- on ebay.
Back to the original question it better than the Ebay version: I think ??????
BUT COSTS MORE
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When I can get a paper clip to give me info like this then I know
I wasted my money ;D
Hey, if you want that info then fine. However, it loses its novelty after a while and you can't do anything with it. It runs or it doesn't run. If it doesn't run 9 times out of 10 the paperclip will tell you. Even MAF and lambda issues show up with a paperclip.
If it was a modified turbo engine, or tunable ECU, then it would be different.
I have no problem with anyone who finds the paperclip check ok.
As for running 9 times out of 10 its never failed to run even with the
USB to Serial [ UK made] I've had it 3 months and got one software upgrade. Personally reset one airbag. Don't get this mixed up with the £30.00 +/- on ebay.
Back to the original question it better than the Ebay version: I think ??????
BUT COSTS MORE
It certainly seems better and must be more robust that the £30 ones. I would certainly like to see it in action one day :)
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Guys,
Contacted the vendor on E-Bay, with regards to the item in post 1 of this thread.. Asked them about Vista compatibility, not tried it yet so don't know....
DC
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Guys,
Contacted the vendor on E-Bay, with regards to the item in post 1 of this thread.. Asked them about Vista compatibility, not tried it yet so don't know....
DC
Its not going to be the OS api per se, but the fact that vista is resource hungry, so may make the device even less reliable (if that is possible!)
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Good point... I have installed Vista on two PCs at home, might get the laptop Vistaed (is this English?) as well and give it a go then....
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Good point... I have installed Vista on two PCs at home, might get the laptop Vistaed (is this English?) as well and give it a go then....
What in the world is the rush?! :-?
It looks nicer - like a Mac, but afaik it is slower, has a bunch of problems, and doesn't do anything new and useful?
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Good point... I have installed Vista on two PCs at home, might get the laptop Vistaed (is this English?) as well and give it a go then....
What in the world is the rush?! :-?
It looks nicer - like a Mac, but afaik it is slower, has a bunch of problems, and doesn't do anything new and useful?
The interface, whilst initially frustrating for XP users (as XP was to W2K users), must be better - you don't realise it until you go back to XP after using Vista for a while. I'm been a Vista user for well over a year, and if it wasn't for the resource requirements, I would have it on all my machines.
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I have no opinion about Vista as such... :o
It's there, it's Microsoft, and we will all have to use it sooner or later so we might as well just get on with it. :)
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I have no opinion about Vista as such... :o
It's there, it's Microsoft, and we will all have to use it sooner or later so we might as well just get on with it. :)
I do suspect, with higher hardware requirements and seemingly more robust antivation, that many consumers may wait until they need a new machine. Corporates, although there are lots of nice things for them in Vista, traditionally wait a while as well.