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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Auto Addict on 20 April 2007, 03:32:21

Title: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 April 2007, 03:32:21
My Auto box has the latest firmware, and causes no problems when cold or hot, but when it's semi-cold, i.e. after it's been driven then left standing for an hour or two, it hangs onto first gear till about 2K revs.

TB, I think I could do with a Tech II reading on it, how are you fixed?
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: omegalyn on 20 April 2007, 05:17:42
Hi there AA

I am sure that you know that when cold it stays in 1st to worm up the cat, If this is done by one of the sensors, could this sensor be faulty. Has it only done this after the auto box software upgrade?
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Auto Addict on 20 April 2007, 11:48:12
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Hi there AA

I am sure that you know that when cold it stays in 1st to worm up the cat, If this is done by one of the sensors, could this sensor be faulty. Has it only done this after the auto box software upgrade?

That's the point, it doesn't stay in first from cold.

Auto box update about 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2007, 09:11:03
Are you going to be passing at any point?
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2007, 09:11:46
Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 21 April 2007, 09:20:35
My autobox does something similar I think, when semi cold it sometimes seem to hang-on to low gear for more than it should, though I can 'shake it off' by letting-go of the accelerator and then re-applying pressure slowly.

I had this from new, i.e. for over 5 years now, and TheBoy's firmware update made no change to this. Also, when TheBoy had his Tech2 hooked-up to car he would have noticed any transmission fault codes had there been any stored.

When I bought the car I asked around about this, some people said it was common with Drive-by-Wire (not sure why though), and that it also affects other cars not just Omegas. I never did get to the bottom of this…


Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 21 April 2007, 10:11:43
My does the same AA....Latest software for the g/b ecu stoppped it hanging about in 1st when cold.

But yesterday for ie.....used the omega in the morning (fine then) then took a few hours off and went out again at 6pm.....went up my road to turn round.....gave it a little blat....not hard.....didnt change out of 1st until 5k revs.....it would have changed a lot sooner if it had been fully warmed up or stone cold.
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Auto Addict on 21 April 2007, 21:02:48
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

My cheapo Tech II does not read the gearbox, what mod are you talking about.

No, I'm not passing, I would have to make a special trip, not a problem, to suit yourself.
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 22 April 2007, 00:54:11
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 April 2007, 13:53:49
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....

We're all interested, please answer us TB :)
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: TheBoy on 22 April 2007, 14:47:28
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....

We're all interested, please answer us TB :)
AA - PM sent...
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 22 April 2007, 15:22:59
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....

We're all interested, please answer us TB :)
AA - PM sent...

What about MJ?  :(
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: TheBoy on 22 April 2007, 15:27:46
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....

We're all interested, please answer us TB :)
AA - PM sent...

What about MJ?  :(
No PM sent to MJ ;).  It would appear the fix to get this function working is not ready yet. Sorry.
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 22 April 2007, 16:17:48
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Thinking about it, does the cheapo tech2 read it with a small mod?

cheapo tech2...? small mod...? reading the autobox...? I'm interested  :) please tell me more....

We're all interested, please answer us TB :)
AA - PM sent...

What about MJ?  :(
No PM sent to MJ ;).  It would appear the fix to get this function working is not ready yet. Sorry.

 :'(
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 22 April 2007, 16:23:52
On a serious note, I think we can conclude that this problem only affects post-2001 facelifts..? This will explain why I was told (rightly or wrongly) that it is linked to the Drive-by-Wire. And also that it is not affected by the autobox firmware update...

I have another small anomaly which may be a 'post-2001 facelift' issue - my rev meter does not resigner between 1500 and 2000... it just hops up or down straight from 1500 to 2000, instead of moving progressively. The engine sound fine, so it is not real.... this does not occur at any other part of the rev meter. Also, when the car was new Vx changed the instrument panel under warranty, but I had this problem from new and the problem persisted after the swap, so it is not an instrument panel issue. Anyone else noticed this?

Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 22 April 2007, 18:53:05
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On a serious note, I think we can conclude that this problem only affects post-2001 facelifts..? This will explain why I was told (rightly or wrongly) that it is linked to the Drive-by-Wire. And also that it is not affected by the autobox firmware update...

I have another small anomaly which may be a 'post-2001 facelift' issue - my rev meter does not resigner between 1500 and 2000... it just hops up or down straight from 1500 to 2000, instead of moving progressively. The engine sound fine, so it is not real.... this does not occur at any other part of the rev meter. Also, when the car was new Vx changed the instrument panel under warranty, but I had this problem from new and the problem persisted after the swap, so it is not an instrument panel issue. Anyone else noticed this?


Mine doesnt do that and doesnt sound normal to me......doesnt the rev counter get fed straight from the ecu?
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Auto Addict on 22 April 2007, 19:05:24
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On a serious note, I think we can conclude that this problem only affects post-2001 facelifts..? This will explain why I was told (rightly or wrongly) that it is linked to the Drive-by-Wire. And also that it is not affected by the autobox firmware update...

I have another small anomaly which may be a 'post-2001 facelift' issue - my rev meter does not resigner between 1500 and 2000... it just hops up or down straight from 1500 to 2000, instead of moving progressively. The engine sound fine, so it is not real.... this does not occur at any other part of the rev meter. Also, when the car was new Vx changed the instrument panel under warranty, but I had this problem from new and the problem persisted after the swap, so it is not an instrument panel issue. Anyone else noticed this?


Mine doesnt do that and doesnt sound normal to me......doesnt the rev counter get fed straight from the ecu?

Mine doesn't either, but then I haven't got a sunroof like wot MJ has got. ;)
Title: Re: Minor Auto Gearbox Problem
Post by: Markjay on 22 April 2007, 19:05:52
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On a serious note, I think we can conclude that this problem only affects post-2001 facelifts..? This will explain why I was told (rightly or wrongly) that it is linked to the Drive-by-Wire. And also that it is not affected by the autobox firmware update...

I have another small anomaly which may be a 'post-2001 facelift' issue - my rev meter does not resigner between 1500 and 2000... it just hops up or down straight from 1500 to 2000, instead of moving progressively. The engine sound fine, so it is not real.... this does not occur at any other part of the rev meter. Also, when the car was new Vx changed the instrument panel under warranty, but I had this problem from new and the problem persisted after the swap, so it is not an instrument panel issue. Anyone else noticed this?


Mine doesnt do that and doesnt sound normal to me......doesnt the rev counter get fed straight from the ecu?


Just curious to know if someone else has this problem... if it is indeed a fault on my car, it is not one that I intend to do anything about...