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Title: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 22 April 2007, 15:36:19
Gents and Ladies,
My Omega has run at about 95 deg C for ages now,  was a little disturbed when, at new year in very cold weather ( -2), the guage went very high and red warning light came on whilst towing my 1000kg caravan....  Not normal!

Flushed it all out today and new waterpump yesterday....  still running at similar temerature... heaters red hot, cooling fans both kicking in as they should,  hoping all OK now...  Please see picture below::::  DOES YOURS RUN THIS HOT????

Opinions greatly received...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p43/davec1999/OmegaDash.jpg"

Cheers DC ::)
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Admin on 22 April 2007, 15:52:54
Temp looks normal to me with climate set to cold. :)
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Elite Pete on 22 April 2007, 15:57:14
Mine runs between the 90 and 92 but sit in traffic and it soon rises until the fans kick in.
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 22 April 2007, 15:57:42
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Temp looks normal to me with climate set to cold. :)


Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...

It had used to run cooler, I think!!!

Another point, just wondering if the auto box fluid is causing the overheating when towing... changing it very soon anyway....

Still any suggestions, coments.  Greatly appreciated..

DC
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: razzo on 22 April 2007, 17:03:09
Yep mines the same. Fan kicks in at around 95 temp creeps up to around 98 when it drops to under 95 fan cuts out. If i run climate with a/c fans doesn't climb above 90
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Admin on 22 April 2007, 18:07:10
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Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...
DC

Ok, turn the climate back on for 2 reasons.

1. Running without the aircon on is not a good idea, as you will often find that when it gets really warm and you really want it, it won't work as well as it should.
The system is designed to run all the time. Extended periods of non use mean seals dry out and gas leaks.

2. Running the climate means the climate fans will then work, giving additional cooling to the radiator. :)

Try it and see what happens.
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 April 2007, 18:32:50
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Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...
DC

Ok, turn the climate back on for 2 reasons.

1. Running without the aircon on is not a good idea, as you will often find that when it gets really warm and you really want it, it won't work as well as it should.
The system is designed to run all the time. Extended periods of non use mean seals dry out and gas leaks.

2. Running the climate means the climate fans will then work, giving additional cooling to the radiator. :)

Try it and see what happens.

This may sound silly but new to this climate control stuff ;D
Climate control is something different to air con isn't it???
So are you saying Air con should be run all the time? well won't that be cold???? :-[
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2007, 18:46:10
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Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...
DC

Ok, turn the climate back on for 2 reasons.

1. Running without the aircon on is not a good idea, as you will often find that when it gets really warm and you really want it, it won't work as well as it should.
The system is designed to run all the time. Extended periods of non use mean seals dry out and gas leaks.

2. Running the climate means the climate fans will then work, giving additional cooling to the radiator. :)

Try it and see what happens.

This may sound silly but new to this climate control stuff ;D
Climate control is something different to air con isn't it???
So are you saying Air con should be run all the time? well won't that be cold???? :-[
climate has a/c to maintain the temp you set.  The ecu will ensure that the requested temp is maintained, whether a/c on or off.

a/c in winter is a great demister ;)
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Andy B on 23 April 2007, 18:56:46
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So are you saying Air con should be run all the time? well won't that be cold???? :-[

A/C doesn't have to be cold. You can have hot A/C too - it's just the moisture that's been removed.
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Andy B on 23 April 2007, 18:59:16
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 The ecu will ensure that the requested temp is maintained, whether a/c on or off. .......

It'll be trying all day if you're asking it to chill the car below than the ambient temp and the A/C is turned to ECO.
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2007, 19:01:37
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 The ecu will ensure that the requested temp is maintained, whether a/c on or off. .......

It'll be trying all day if you're asking it to chill the car below than the ambient temp and the A/C is turned to ECO.
you know what i mean....  ...the ecu may be clever, but obviously cant put a shine on a turd.
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: amba on 23 April 2007, 19:38:10
Temp looks fine to me as well...should only go up slightly if in traffic with climate on but fans will pull it back..I was once told to only get worried when went beyond 100 as a pressuized system does jump around a bit...only panic if "red light " comes on!!!
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 23 April 2007, 20:02:16
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Temp looks fine to me as well...should only go up slightly if in traffic with climate on but fans will pull it back..I was once told to only get worried when went beyond 100 as a pressuized system does jump around a bit...only panic if "red light " comes on!!!


Red Light!!!  That's happened, when towing in -2 deg C ambient temp....  Want to make sure OK for summer towing over Bodmin etc

DC
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 April 2007, 23:47:40
My Elite runs at about that...
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Admin on 24 April 2007, 08:00:16
Switch to "auto" and set the temp for you. Normally 20-21.

Let it run like this for a week and tell us what the temp gauge does.

Oh, and as a test, with auto on, turn the gauge down to "Lo". It should freeze your ****s off!  ;)
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 24 April 2007, 17:54:43
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Switch to "auto" and set the temp for you. Normally 20-21.

Let it run like this for a week and tell us what the temp gauge does.

Oh, and as a test, with auto on, turn the gauge down to "Lo". It should freeze your ****s off!  ;)

OK, I will, and yes aircon is a ballcock chiller on LO, especially when I wear my mini skirt ;D ;D ;D ;D

Watch this space,,,

Dave C
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: gizza on 24 April 2007, 22:00:57
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Temp looks normal to me with climate set to cold. :)


Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...

It had used to run cooler, I think!!!

Another point, just wondering if the auto box fluid is causing the overheating when towing... changing it very soon anyway....

Still any suggestions, coments.  Greatly appreciated..

DC
if your concerened about towing and overheating fit a seperate oil cooler very easy to do
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 25 April 2007, 18:00:45
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Temp looks normal to me with climate set to cold. :)


Yeah!  Good point, climate on that piccy is set to LO but A/C is OFF... this is after a good run on a day with ambient temp of 13.5 deg C...

It had used to run cooler, I think!!!

Another point, just wondering if the auto box fluid is causing the overheating when towing... changing it very soon anyway....

Still any suggestions, coments.  Greatly appreciated..

DC
if your concerened about towing and overheating fit a seperate oil cooler very easy to do

Agreed an extra cooler wouldn't go amiss, got one sitting in my shed doing nowt!  My concern is that, it's not happened before, have towed the same van and set up for several years....  I'm seriously wondering if it's a gearbox fluid issue...  We'll soon see, going to replenish it soon...

Thanx for all your replies though....  Any other thoughts, most welcome..

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeers DC :-*
Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: cdx25 on 25 April 2007, 18:09:04
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Any other thoughts, most welcome..

Ive been watching my gauge since reading your post and it fluctuates between 85 and 90 on the gauge.  Did read in the owners handbook that temps reaching 100 occasionally were normal, but your red light on dash scenario not ideal tho...  


Title: Re: Temperature - Overheating ?????
Post by: Dave-C on 25 April 2007, 18:15:00
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Any other thoughts, most welcome..

Ive been watching my gauge since reading your post and it fluctuates between 85 and 90 on the gauge.  Did read in the owners handbook that temps reaching 100 occasionally were normal, but your red light on dash scenario not ideal tho...  



Admitted, it's only when towing, NEVER at any other time, did the cambelt and a new water pump last weekend too, flushed it all through...  Shall have to take the van for a drag....  AFTER DARK  !!!  OK BOYS !!!!!

Cheers DC