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Title: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 18:39:24
hi all,i have a 2001 2.6 mv6 that makes a tapping noise(quite loud) when its started up from cold,its comming for the top of the engine but the noise only lasts a couple of minutes and doesnt return until it has gone cold again,mate said it could be a sticking valve,anyone had similar problems or have any idea what it could be,as you can tell im no good with cars and am worried it might blow up lol


cheers
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: TheBoy on 17 May 2007, 18:41:29
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hi all,i have a 2001 2.6 mv6 that makes a tapping noise(quite loud) when its started up from cold,its comming for the top of the engine but the noise only lasts a couple of minutes and doesnt return until it has gone cold again,mate said it could be a sticking valve,anyone had similar problems or have any idea what it could be,as you can tell im no good with cars and am worried it might blow up lol


cheers
blown exhaust manifold, or more likely the manifold gasket
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 18:56:46
thanks theboy,not sure tho,its more of a knocking noise rather that a blowing noise
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: cdx25 on 17 May 2007, 19:11:02
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thanks theboy,not sure tho,its more of a knocking noise rather that a blowing noise

Dont rule it out though, leaking exhaust manifolds/ gaskets can sound just like an engine tap - easy to misdiagnose these if youve not heard it before.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 19:13:45
many thanks cdx
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: TheBoy on 17 May 2007, 19:22:30
usually, the blow sounds like tappets, until the manifold warms up.
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Post by: michael_de on 17 May 2007, 20:16:03
we had a shogun in the garage and the customer was convinced something was broken inside the head and sure enough the exhaust manifold was fractured...sounded like a broken follower...never assume the worst
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 21:29:52
if it is a manifold problem or needs new gasgets,is it a big expensive job?
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: TheBoy on 17 May 2007, 21:31:07
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if it is a manifold problem or needs new gasgets,is it a big expensive job?
v6 or 4 pot. If v6, which side?
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 21:34:11
its the v6,cant tell side the noise is comming from
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Post by: TheBoy on 17 May 2007, 21:40:37
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its the v6,cant tell side the noise is comming from
Drivers side not too bad, passenger side more of a challenge!
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: paul36uk1 on 17 May 2007, 21:42:08
any idea of the costs from a garage?

thanks for your help btw
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: TheBoy on 17 May 2007, 21:45:00
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any idea of the costs from a garage?

thanks for your help btw
You need to prove it is that first. I would attempt to locate which side - if drivers side, consider having a go.  If passenger side, probably easier to remove the head?

Garage costs are likely to be high.
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: Ronald_McBurger on 17 May 2007, 21:47:10
Manifold gasket about £6. Timewise? Drivers side about 3 hours, passenger side about 2 hours BUT you need to shift the enigine over with a crane or jack for the passenger side.
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: gizza on 18 May 2007, 05:28:25
you could try putting some wyns hydralic lifter oil if it is the lifters, works wonders and it about a fiver from halfords and this should elimanate the tappets from your searching and if you are doing it yourself try auto vaux for the parts they qouted me £10 cheaper than vaux main dealer with postage  
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 18 May 2007, 08:51:44
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you could try putting some wyns hydralic lifter oil if it is the lifters, works wonders and it about a fiver from halfords and this should elimanate the tappets from your searching and if you are doing it yourself try auto vaux for the parts they qouted me £10 cheaper than vaux main dealer with postage  

Sorry mate, I can't agree.

Stay away from oil additives at all costs :( :y
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: gizza on 20 May 2007, 01:51:20
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you could try putting some wyns hydralic lifter oil if it is the lifters, works wonders and it about a fiver from halfords and this should elimanate the tappets from your searching and if you are doing it yourself try auto vaux for the parts they qouted me £10 cheaper than vaux main dealer with postage  

Sorry mate, I can't agree.

Stay away from oil additives at all costs :( :y
it worked on mine and you put it in drive for a few hundred miles then do an oil change, its designed to remove all the crap from inside the hydralic lifters so they can fill up properly and stop the tapperty noise, i dont run the engine with it in just used it to clean out the tappets then replaced oil and filter with vauxhall stuff
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Post by: cdx25 on 20 May 2007, 19:28:24
I'm with JamesV6CDX on that one, partly because using engine flush type stuff is potentially risky for the engine, but also because using this cleaning stuff isnt a sure fire fix anyway- what Im saying is that unless you are lucky and it fixes it then its diagnostic value is a bit iffy.  Can you rule out the manifold first?
Title: Re: possible sticking valve???????
Post by: Matchless on 20 May 2007, 19:50:11
Get a length of rubber tube, stick one end in an ear 'ole and poke the other end all around the suspect gasket, if it is the gasket or a cracked manifold then you should hear it quite clearly.