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Title: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: darren5354 on 26 May 2007, 22:23:31
How does a Omega Elite Saloon compare to an Estate?
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: STMO123 on 26 May 2007, 22:28:44
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How does a Omega Elite Saloon compare to an Estate?

Ones got more room inside than the other ;D ;D ;D


Sorry mate :-[
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Matchless on 26 May 2007, 22:29:17
You cant get 9 Ikea wardrobes, 3 chests of drawers, assorted shelves, fittings and a wife in a saloon.
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: darren5354 on 26 May 2007, 22:35:24
 :D NICE ONE ;D ;D :y

Any ideas about performance???
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Admin on 26 May 2007, 22:38:52
Performance? Pretty much identical. :)

Estates hold their value better due to being more sought after. You can carry a heck of a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of stuff in the estate!

Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 May 2007, 22:41:47
Estates carry a bit more weight so there's a little on the 0-60 - about 0.5 seconds slower IIRC and a few MPH off the top speed, not that that's an issue.

I don't have much experience with Omega estates but in general I find them a bit more noisy than similar saloon cars, probably due to the larger internal volume and the fact that there's less sound deadening between the passenger compartment and the rear suspension, etc. They seem more prone to rattling bits of trim back there too.

.. but they're much more practical for carryling stuff around and tend to hold their value better.

Kevin
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: STMO123 on 26 May 2007, 22:45:42
I have had a 6' 3" fridge freezer in the back of an estate, with the tailgate closed. Very similar in size/payload to a V70.
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: MickAP on 26 May 2007, 23:42:09
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Estates carry a bit more weight so there's a little on the 0-60 - about 0.5 seconds slower IIRC and a few MPH off the top speed, not that that's an issue.

I don't have much experience with Omega estates but in general I find them a bit more noisy than similar saloon cars, probably due to the larger internal volume and the fact that there's less sound deadening between the passenger compartment and the rear suspension, etc. They seem more prone to rattling bits of trim back there too.

.. but they're much more practical for carryling stuff around and tend to hold their value better.

Kevin

Would tend to agree with this comment, although I've never had an Omega saloon. Trouble is once you have an estate everyone becomes your friend for moving stuff.  I had 4  6FT fence panels on top last week, handy those roof rails 8ft posts inside no problem. I gonna try and get a 3 piece suite in next week, not all at once though. Wouldn't be without mine now.

Mick
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: STMO123 on 26 May 2007, 23:45:03
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Estates carry a bit more weight so there's a little on the 0-60 - about 0.5 seconds slower IIRC and a few MPH off the top speed, not that that's an issue.

I don't have much experience with Omega estates but in general I find them a bit more noisy than similar saloon cars, probably due to the larger internal volume and the fact that there's less sound deadening between the passenger compartment and the rear suspension, etc. They seem more prone to rattling bits of trim back there too.

.. but they're much more practical for carryling stuff around and tend to hold their value better.

Kevin

Would tend to agree with this comment, although I've never had an Omega saloon. Trouble is once you have an estate everyone becomes your friend for moving stuff.  I had 4  6FT fence panels on top last week, handy those roof rails 8ft posts inside no problem. I gonna try and get a 3 piece suite in next week, not all at once though. Wouldn't be without mine now.

Mick

Oh yes. Usually just when you are having your tea :(
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: paulr on 27 May 2007, 00:18:39
depends on what you want the car for. as an example I tow a caravan and have 2 dogs so an estate is better for me. However I wish I could have a saloon as they are quieter and more comfortable. I am assuming estates have tougher rear suspention to cope with the better load carrying
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Pitchfork on 27 May 2007, 11:13:14
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I have had a 6' 3" fridge freezer in the back of an estate, with the tailgate closed. Very similar in size/payload to a V70.

Having had 2 V70's prior to giving up Company Cars & buying my Omega Estate I can relaibly inform you that there is more volume in the Omega than the Volvo
I carry a lot of heavy PA gear around the country & there is a good half a metre extra length compared with V70. Also when loaded the Omega seems to settle evenly wheareas the Volvo's used to become 'light' at the front end & be less stable
IW
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: sounds2k on 27 May 2007, 14:01:15
well having had facelift models of both, I'd say the estate handles better - possibly due to slightly stiffer suspension for load carrying as suggested, but also due to the extra weight of bodywork at the back. As far as noise and comfort levels are concerned ... not really noticed a big difference there. I do however use the load cover all the time which may help reduce the suspension noise ... ?
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Pete Elite on 27 May 2007, 23:05:43
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You cant get 9 Ikea wardrobes, 3 chests of drawers, assorted shelves, fittings and a wife in a saloon.

 You can with a saw and an axe, but the screaming and the blood would probably put most people off [smiley=evil.gif] ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: Markjay on 27 May 2007, 23:26:13
As said - the Estate is heavier and therefore marginally slower, it is a bit noisier inside, and you have to be careful about keeping stuff in broad view (i.e use the load cover). But you get loads of space inside...
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: The Barge Captain on 30 May 2007, 14:53:48
With an estate, a 2 year old can stand up in the boot, and makes for a great picnic spot when it starts to rain. ;D
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: x25xe on 30 May 2007, 15:09:03
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Trouble is once you have an estate everyone becomes your friend for moving stuff.

I know what you mean - I have a transit van and get called upon lots for dumping stuff, moving, picking up washing machines etc.

Back to the question - I would not have an estate (as I have the van) but I think that estates are prone to opportunist break ins as people tend to think that there is something good hiding under that load cover.

Another thing I have noticed on my travels is that the doors on the estates do not seem to be effected by the rust issue.

It is a question of do you need the extra load space?  If yes, then get the estate.  If no then get the saloon.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: ians on 30 May 2007, 16:13:42
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Another thing I have noticed on my travels is that the doors on the estates do not seem to be effected by the rust issue.


..I wish that was correct (actually I've never had a saloon , so they may be worse).  My 98 estate has corrosion on one door under the seal at the top,  and at odd corners at the rear.  Funnily enough my 94 estate is nothing like as bad (although wheel arches are starting to show)
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: MickAP on 30 May 2007, 18:40:48
Mines pretty much rust free apart from the usual, paint starting to lift slightly on the tailgate underneath the window rubber under the wiper arm.

Mick
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: ffcgary1 on 30 May 2007, 18:56:12
 :(I have a theory on what causes the rust at the top of the doors, mine only has one door showing rust.How many of us use a power washer to clean our pride and joy,could it be that using a high pressure washer forces water up & under the seal and there it sits gradually eating away at the metal.I use a power washer and have lowerd the amount of time that i spend in one place. Just a theory.discuss.
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: MickAP on 30 May 2007, 19:01:03
I think water will creep in anywhere were the sealing poor, capillary action and all that, whether at high pressure or not.

Mick
Title: Re: Saloon or Estate?
Post by: ffcgary1 on 30 May 2007, 19:21:13
I plan to replace the door in the near future and will rust prof he bit under the seal in an attempt to cure this problem for the next  few years,

Gary.