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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 21 August 2007, 18:04:13
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Did`nt the TC set in then :o
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Did`nt the TC set in then :o
TC can only do so much. It is supposed to help with grip when you are travelling forwards, not sideways ;D
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Is that what I bought? Or what I replaced? Can't remember.
What I have seems pretty good, even got me through the floods. Only real criticism is the tall tread blocks. OTOH, this is the first RWD car I've had in ages that handles for diddley so I take the odd pucker moment for granted. The ones I took off were slick as whale snot in the wet.
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Is that what I bought? Or what I replaced? Can't remember.
What I have seems pretty good, even got me through the floods. Only real criticism is the tall tread blocks. OTOH, this is the first RWD car I've had in ages that handles for diddley so I take the odd pucker moment for granted. The ones I took off were slick as whale snot in the wet.
Hi Theo. These would probably be OK in 98% of situations encountered. But I need to know that my tyres are 99.9% reliable, otherwise I'll be backing off instead of teaching those hot hatches a thing or two, and we cant have that, can we? [smiley=evil.gif]
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Is that what I bought? Or what I replaced? Can't remember.
What I have seems pretty good, even got me through the floods. Only real criticism is the tall tread blocks. OTOH, this is the first RWD car I've had in ages that handles for diddley so I take the odd pucker moment for granted. The ones I took off were slick as whale snot in the wet.
Hi Theo. These would probably be OK in 98% of situations encountered. But I need to know that my tyres are 99.9% reliable, otherwise I'll be backing off instead of teaching those hot hatches a thing or two, and we cant have that, can we? [smiley=evil.gif]
You Boy Racer old man racer you !!
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Is that what I bought? Or what I replaced? Can't remember.
What I have seems pretty good, even got me through the floods. Only real criticism is the tall tread blocks. OTOH, this is the first RWD car I've had in ages that handles for diddley so I take the odd pucker moment for granted. The ones I took off were slick as whale snot in the wet.
Hi Theo. These would probably be OK in 98% of situations encountered. But I need to know that my tyres are 99.9% reliable, otherwise I'll be backing off instead of teaching those hot hatches a thing or two, and we cant have that, can we? [smiley=evil.gif]
You Boy Racer old man racer you !!
Well, I mean, what exactly is the point of a 2.5 V6 if you dont thrash it now and again :D
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Is that what I bought? Or what I replaced? Can't remember.
What I have seems pretty good, even got me through the floods. Only real criticism is the tall tread blocks. OTOH, this is the first RWD car I've had in ages that handles for diddley so I take the odd pucker moment for granted. The ones I took off were slick as whale snot in the wet.
Hi Theo. These would probably be OK in 98% of situations encountered. But I need to know that my tyres are 99.9% reliable, otherwise I'll be backing off instead of teaching those hot hatches a thing or two, and we cant have that, can we? [smiley=evil.gif]
You Boy Racer old man racer you !!
Well, I mean, what exactly is the point of a 2.5 V6 if you dont thrash it now and again :D
YES a man after my own Heart :y :y [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=evil.gif]
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NEXEN? Crap crap crap crap crap, And they are CRAP! :-X
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NEXEN? Crap crap crap crap crap, And they are CRAP! :-X
Hi Mr McB hows the back :-?
Have`nt seen you on here for a while everything ok??
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Aha my 'mega does the same thing, breaks away in the wet with no warning at all, heart thumping stuff sometimes. Car has got Runway enduros :-? on. Yeah never heard of them either. Wasn't going to replace until winter due to loads of tread but with this weather I think i might go to my old favs Pirelli p6000. Any one any veiws of this tyre car combi? :)
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Aha my 'mega does the same thing, breaks away in the wet with no warning at all, heart thumping stuff sometimes. Car has got Runway enduros :-? on. Yeah never heard of them either. Wasn't going to replace until winter due to loads of tread but with this weather I think i might go to my old favs Pirelli p6000. Any one any veiws of this tyre car combi? :)
Yeah, it's still RWD with a lot of rear camber. It's pretty good, but if you want 99% security get AWD.
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So to sum this thread up "Buy cheap crappy tyres and die young"
:D :D :D
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i used to run my miggy on Khumos, they were always a more expensive budget tyre and i could get the miggy to drift nicely round roundabouts, the missus got used to it and never batted an eyelid when we were sideways ;D ;D ;D
However they would wear down after 10000 miles and were costing £75 a corner so after 2 complete sets in just over 6 months i changed to dunlops, a lot tougher tyer that wears a lot better, has excellent grip and only a moderate amount of road noise, the downside is the miggy doesn't do the whole sideways thing as much or as well >:(
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
Don't rule out a diseasle spillage on t' road... :)
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Got Nexens on all four corners (The car came with them) and to be fair i've found them OK so far, they've also received good reviews. When they are worn i'll probably look at Sport 9090's.
I've got another set of wheels with some rather cheapo looking tyres on them, think they'll be taken off at some point and made into swings for the boys!!!!
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i changed to dunlops, a lot tougher tyer that wears a lot better, has excellent grip
We found Dunlop SP9000's to be $hite on tyre wear, even though they do grip well, as you say. There's always a compromise. The dealer fit 'kleber' tyres wear poorly as well.
Anybody got Eagle F1 Goodyears??? Think they're gonna be the next to try. Heard a few horror stories about Michelin 'Energy' tyres on other cars (even though not avaible for mig), they don't grip much when cold :o
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Got Nexens on all four corners (The car came with them) and to be fair i've found them OK so far, they've also received good reviews.
I had Nexen's for about 9000 miles and found them ok - though can't remember feeling worried that the car was losing traction at all - must just be my driving 8-) :y
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So to sum this thread up "Buy cheap crappy tyres and die young"
:D :D :D
Do you mean ""I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it"" sums up the thread.????
Ive had ""crappy"" tyres on various cars over the years Nankang being the preferred choice and have never had problems in the wet.....Ive had the car sideways a few times but then i have with so called super dooper tyres,no tyre will grip in the wet if your driving like a cock. ::)
Ive currently got a set of Full runs on the rear of the Elite and despite some entustic driving (Read driving like a cock ;D) they have gripped remarkably well despite being crappy and costing £50 each fitted. ;D ;D
People really should remeber that its the driver that keeps the car on the road and shouldn't put all there faith in the tyres and hope they will keep them on the road simply because they cost a small fortune,seems too be a lot of Snobbery when it comes too tyres.
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Just another point..... turn the TC off in the wet.. it's useless! (My Opinion) Don't like the way it kicks in and takes over... too interventive! Always been used to RWD, suppose it's second nature to feather the throttle!
ABS is the same... if you drive within the boundaries, cadence braking should suffice... been on skid pans with both... it's down to the driver (My Opinion)
I suppose I've started something now!!!!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
DC
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Always been used to RWD, suppose it's second nature to feather the throttle!
ABS is the same... if you drive within the boundaries, cadence braking should suffice... been on skid pans with both... it's down to the driver (My Opinion)
Quite agree.... however, your average driver doesn't seem to know their boundries / completely over estimates them. (And before I get flamed, I was not refering to anybody on this site, more like www.frontfoglightson-neonwasherjets-5grandstereoina50quidcar-4inchtailpipe-baseballcaponbackwards-20inchwheels.com)
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Always been used to RWD, suppose it's second nature to feather the throttle!
ABS is the same... if you drive within the boundaries, cadence braking should suffice... been on skid pans with both... it's down to the driver (My Opinion)
Quite agree.... however, your average driver doesn't seem to know their boundries / completely over estimates them. (And before I get flamed, I was not refering to anybody on this site, more like www.frontfoglightson-neonwasherjets-5grandstereoina50quidcar-4inchtailpipe-baseballcaponbackwards-20inchwheels.com)
Noted, pretty sure that ALL on here get your gist... 'cause we've all made mistakes....
DC
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Well, I finally remembered to look. I put Nankangs on. They're quite good in the wet. I think that I had Nexens. At least by the time I took them off they were absolutely useless in the wet. They were old and hard and barely legal by then. Low tread Nexens were better in the dry than full tread Nanakangs though.
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I use this guy for the wifes car, gonna start using him for mine. An hours drive but probably worth it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120151102830&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002
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I use this guy for the wifes car, gonna start using him for mine. An hours drive but probably worth it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120151102830&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002
Over 50 each used!?
I got 4 Nankangs new for 150+VAT delivered. Don't remember the website, but one of the normal ones.
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One thing that I think makes a big difference is taking into account which front tyres you have on as well, as it really affects the 'balance' of the car.
If all 4 tyres match then the breakaway characteristics will be roughly as the car was made to be like (albeit with differing grip levels down to the tyre type and compound) but as soon as you have cheap tyres one end and decent tyres the other, one end will lose grip sooner and completely change the way the car handles.
For example my car came with a new set of super-cheapo rear tyres and soon after I fitted some mid-range fronts and currently the car pretty much oversteers at any opportunity - kinda fun sometimes but tbh it might be a liability in an emergency so I'm considering swapping front to rear (to give more understeer) or replacing them to match the fronts.
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One thing that I think makes a big difference is taking into account which front tyres you have on as well, as it really affects the 'balance' of the car.
If all 4 tyres match then the breakaway characteristics will be roughly as the car was made to be like (albeit with differing grip levels down to the tyre type and compound) but as soon as you have cheap tyres one end and decent tyres the other, one end will lose grip sooner and completely change the way the car handles.
For example my car came with a new set of super-cheapo rear tyres and soon after I fitted some mid-range fronts and currently the car pretty much oversteers at any opportunity - kinda fun sometimes but tbh it might be a liability in an emergency so I'm considering swapping front to rear (to give more understeer) or replacing them to match the fronts.
Should always be best tyres on rear - understeer is more progressive and more controllable than oversteer.
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I'm not the best driver in the world and know my limits. :-/
I drive and accelerate fast most of the time except in the wet. When it's slippy, I can't control the car through acceleration on anything but a piece of straight (with a rear wheel drive).
If there's a way, someone let me know.
TC always stays on, it cuts the power quicker than I can react. I've seen so many Boxters and similar wrapped around a lamp post in the wet - just at the exit of a roundabout. Of course, they have no such thing as TC.
It seems to me that the Omega is more about recovery driving in the wet :)
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One thing that I think makes a big difference is taking into account which front tyres you have on as well, as it really affects the 'balance' of the car.
If all 4 tyres match then the breakaway characteristics will be roughly as the car was made to be like (albeit with differing grip levels down to the tyre type and compound) but as soon as you have cheap tyres one end and decent tyres the other, one end will lose grip sooner and completely change the way the car handles.
For example my car came with a new set of super-cheapo rear tyres and soon after I fitted some mid-range fronts and currently the car pretty much oversteers at any opportunity - kinda fun sometimes but tbh it might be a liability in an emergency so I'm considering swapping front to rear (to give more understeer) or replacing them to match the fronts.
Should always be best tyres on rear - understeer is more progressive and more controllable than oversteer.
Not for 'safe' driving. Front does 90% of braking, so better tires should be there - unless you drive like a loonie. :P ;D
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Have Dunlop SP9000 235 45 ZR17 on front and back of my MV6 and have done for the past 78,000 miles, never had any understeer, back end always goes first or at the same time. If I'm driving hard turn TC off as it interfears with driver control, you can't balance the car in a drift with the computer sticking the brakes on and off and cutting the power. :y
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Fuz
How many miles do you find the SP9000 last?
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Fuz
How many miles do you find the SP9000 last?
I got around 12k off mine ::)
Even wear (until something shifted geometry wise), so got the best I could from them :-[
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You just have to be gentle getting the back end back in check, too hard or too fast will send you in to a spin.
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I use this guy for the wifes car, gonna start using him for mine. An hours drive but probably worth it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120151102830&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002
Over 50 each used!?
I got 4 Nankangs new for 150+VAT delivered. Don't remember the website, but one of the normal ones.
Yeah. But the point is...I'm not using budget again, and these are bridgestone.
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i changed to dunlops, a lot tougher tyer that wears a lot better, has excellent grip
We found Dunlop SP9000's to be $hite on tyre wear, even though they do grip well, as you say. There's always a compromise. The dealer fit 'kleber' tyres wear poorly as well.
Anybody got Eagle F1 Goodyears??? Think they're gonna be the next to try. Heard a few horror stories about Michelin 'Energy' tyres on other cars (even though not avaible for mig), they don't grip much when cold :o
Eagle F1's .... best tyres I have EVER had on the Omega!
Expensive, but quite simply superb.
Quiet, super grippy wet and dry and wear seemed very good too.
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Yeah. But the point is...I'm not using budget again, and these are bridgestone.
You can get expensive and/or name brand tires that are cr@p in the wet too. Nothing is assured. All you can do is ask around. Those are probably fine.
FWIW the Nankangs seem very safe, mild understeer in the dry, the others were shockingly bad in the wet. However, I'm not running around telling people what to get.
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i changed to dunlops, a lot tougher tyer that wears a lot better, has excellent grip
We found Dunlop SP9000's to be $hite on tyre wear, even though they do grip well, as you say. There's always a compromise. The dealer fit 'kleber' tyres wear poorly as well.
Anybody got Eagle F1 Goodyears??? Think they're gonna be the next to try. Heard a few horror stories about Michelin 'Energy' tyres on other cars (even though not avaible for mig), they don't grip much when cold :o
Eagle F1's .... best tyres I have EVER had on the Omega!
Expensive, but quite simply superb.
Quiet, super grippy wet and dry and wear seemed very good too.
Did you find that they wore out very quickly?
I agree with everything you have said about them as well, they are truely the best tyre i have used, i was only getting about 8/10,000 miles out of a set on a FWD car, i would dread sticking a set on my miggy
And they look good as well, especially the GSD2's
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
You've certainly put me off placing your motor on the London brick companys finest and avin it away with your wheels :D
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I have Nexens on the Omega, LOADS of tread on them.
Now in the dry, no problem at all, as Maria will confirm, cornering was very good ;)
Tonight, doing a sedate 40mph around a (big) roundabout, damp roads, I turned off for my exit, and nearly ended up facing in the direction I came from !!! I was not pushing the car at all!
I was thankfully able to keep her on course and not hit anything!
That would never have happened with any other Make of tyre I've had..
Those Nexens have gotta go.... ;D
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I have Nexens on the Omega, LOADS of tread on them.
Now in the dry, no problem at all, as Maria will confirm, cornering was very good ;)
Tonight, doing a sedate 40mph around a (big) roundabout, damp roads, I turned off for my exit, and nearly ended up facing in the direction I came from !!! I was not pushing the car at all!
I was thankfully able to keep her on course and not hit anything!
That would never have happened with any other Make of tyre I've had..
Those Nexens have gotta go.... ;D
I thought mine had gone hard from being old, but maybe they started that way? ::)
Nankangs have a lot of tread walk, great in the wet, decent in the dry. Can't complain for the price.
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The car deserves premuim tyres, I think I'll get some....
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What are you considering putting on then?
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What are you considering putting on then?
Eagle F1
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The car deserves premuim tyres, I think I'll get some....
Mine deserves lots of things that it doesn't get, including washed! :P
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I replaced my rear tyres about four monthe ago with Nexens. I was quite pleased with them and told other forum members (Theo, I seem to remember) that they were OK. Yesterday I was coming off a roundabout in wet weather, I was doing about 35mph in third and floored it. I lost the back end completely. Wifey sh*t herself and afterwards commented that, if I hadn't been such an experienced driver, it could have been nasty. Bridgestone going on before winter sets in. :o
On a lighter note, I asked aforesaid Wifey what she would have done. She made no bones about it---"Closed my eyes until the car stopped moving"
Kinnell :'(
The same thing happened to me not long after leaving Broocie's back in August, on the entry road to the M74 was wet and raining. Gave me a bit of a shock as this is the first time this has happenned. The road surface was the white looking tarmac, I put it dwon to the road surface and the fact there may have been something else on it. My daughter got a wee fright and thankfully there were'nt any cars close behind etc.. And TC never came on..Oh and have Pirelli P zeros.
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I have Nexens on the Omega, LOADS of tread on them.
Now in the dry, no problem at all, as Maria will confirm, cornering was very good ;)
Tonight, doing a sedate 40mph around a (big) roundabout, damp roads, I turned off for my exit, and nearly ended up facing in the direction I came from !!! I was not pushing the car at all!
I was thankfully able to keep her on course and not hit anything!
That would never have happened with any other Make of tyre I've had..
Those Nexens have gotta go.... ;D
Told ya :P
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Eagle F1's .... best tyres I have EVER had on the Omega!
Expensive, but quite simply superb.
Quiet, super grippy wet and dry and wear seemed very good too.
Sorry to say I've got F1GSD3s on the back and cannot wait to get rid of them. May just be the state but the back end kicks out now and again even in the dry, great in a straight line though.
Back to Toyos for me.
Steve