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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Chopsdad on 30 May 2007, 16:33:12
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Why can't I select reverse when my engine is on? >:(
First gear is also stiff and the others are not very friendly either :(
When I turn the engine off - all is well :o
All I've done today is flush the coolant - advise please :-[
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Sometimes on mine it wont go into 1st or reverse from a cold start. Just lift the clutch and depress again, then it will slip in nicely (as the actress said to the....... :-X ). :y
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my box is not great either... first can be very stiff in the morning, can take a couple of depresses to get it in. Reverse can stick too...
I think I need an auto next ::)
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The other possibility is that the clutch is dragging a little, meaning that with the car at rest the gearbox input shaft is still spinning, making gear selection difficult.
Once you're on the move, both sides of the gearbox are spinning anyway, so the relative speed is small and it will change gear no problems, but when you're stopped it's critical that the clutch disengages completely.
If you put it in 1st, clutch down, start engine and wait for a while, does it start to creep forwards? does it do this immediately or after a while? Is it easier to initially select a gear if you "pump" the clutch pedal a few times before attempting?
Does the clutch engage smoothly as you pull away or does it tend to judder?
Could either be a problem with the clutch hydraulic circuit or maybe contamination of the clutch itself.
Kevin
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my box is not great either... fist can be very stiff in the morning, can take a couple of depresses to get it in. Reverse can stick too...
I think I need an auto next ::)
Where is STMO when you need him? [smiley=evil.gif]
Kevin - I'll try what you suggested and post up later :y
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my box is not great either... fist can be very stiff in the morning, can take a couple of depresses to get it in. Reverse can stick too...
I think I need an auto next ::)
Where is STMO when you need him? [smiley=evil.gif]
Kevin - I'll try what you suggested and post up later :y
Here I am ;)
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/VSIGN.jpg)
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If first is tight, pull it back onto second (without engaging) then push it forward into first quickly.
You can achieve a similar thing when engaging revers as well.
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The other possibility is that the clutch is dragging a little, meaning that with the car at rest the gearbox input shaft is still spinning, making gear selection difficult.
Once you're on the move, both sides of the gearbox are spinning anyway, so the relative speed is small and it will change gear no problems, but when you're stopped it's critical that the clutch disengages completely.
If you put it in 1st, clutch down, start engine and wait for a while, does it start to creep forwards? does it do this immediately or after a while? Is it easier to initially select a gear if you "pump" the clutch pedal a few times before attempting?
Does the clutch engage smoothly as you pull away or does it tend to judder?
Could either be a problem with the clutch hydraulic circuit or maybe contamination of the clutch itself.
Kevin
No creeping at all. No benefit to pumping the pedal. It helps if I select 3rd first then select 1st gear. Clutch engages ok when I pull away apart from an initial lag, which I've always put down to intertia.
Should I bring some clutch fluid and let you all have a play at Keswick?
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All omega manual gearboxes (or quite a few anywway) seem to have this problem. I tried doing a fluid change as recommended by MarksDTM, improved for a while, then back to normal. I just live with it.
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:(Have the same fault on my manual box,my mate who is a vx teccie has told me that if a customer complains of stiff gear selection,they all go to the selection gate under the gear lever gaiter and apply a special type of grease to the gear stick and nylon guides.it helps in 90% of cases.
Gary.
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:(Have the same fault on my manual box,my mate who is a vx teccie has told me that if a customer complains of stiff gear selection,they all go to the selection gate under the gear lever gaiter and apply a special type of grease to the gear stick and nylon guides.it helps in 90% of cases.
Gary.
I think mines a bit more than that. When I sit in the queue at macdonalds, ie, close to a wall, I put it in and out (oo missus) of gear and it is very 'clonky' sounding.
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No creeping at all. No benefit to pumping the pedal. It helps if I select 3rd first then select 1st gear. Clutch engages ok when I pull away apart from an initial lag, which I've always put down to intertia.
Should I bring some clutch fluid and let you all have a play at Keswick?
Sounds like the hydraulic system is OK so that's one thing to cross off the list, and by the sound of it this isn't an unknown problem. Keswick might be an opportunity to compare cars I guess. I won't be any use, I'm afraid, because mine's got a girly slushbox >:(
Kevin
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See thats where you Manual boys are going wrong ;D
Don't have those probs with Automatics ;D ;D
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See thats where you Manual boys are going wrong ;D
Don't have those probs with Automatics ;D ;D
I rather buy a new manual box than pay new auto box prices.
:y
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See thats where you Manual boys are going wrong ;D
Don't have those probs with Automatics ;D ;D
I rather buy a new manual box than pay new auto box prices.
:y
OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Both boxes have their problems, and neither is cheap to fix. It's just that with a manual box you have some 'control' over whether to put up with it for a while or get it seen to. With an auto, it goes, and you're stuck!
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Mine has always been a bit stiff. Oooer Mavis :o
I've had the old girl since new and the first job I had done was with the gearbox. All they did was change the wet stuff and said it was a trait and just to live with it as it was withing reasonable tolerance etc.
I've only had one problem before and that was after washing it in the freezing cold and it sorted itsself out when it warmed up.
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Mine has always been a bit stiff. Oooer Mavis :o
I've had the old girl since new and the first job I had done was with the gearbox. All they did was change the wet stuff and said it was a trait and just to live with it as it was withing reasonable tolerance etc.
I've only had one problem before and that was after washing it in the freezing cold and it sorted itsself out when it warmed up.
Wet stuff eh
;D ;D
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If first is tight, pull it back onto second (without engaging) then push it forward into first quickly.
You can achieve a similar thing when engaging revers as well.
This works AA, but may be a bit hard to sell on if the buyer can't even get it going :(
Is there anything I can do to free it up? :-?
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If first is tight, pull it back onto second (without engaging) then push it forward into first quickly.
You can achieve a similar thing when engaging revers as well.
This works AA, but may be a bit hard to sell on if the buyer can't even get it going :(
Is there anything I can do to free it up? :-?
The simple solution is to swap it for an auto ;)
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Mines a manual & its sweet as a nut, goes in all the gears easy & positive, but then it's a mans gearbox not a girly auto ;D might be low oil in box or in need of a change of oil causing the probs ;)
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OOOooooo Girly auto hey.
;D ;D ;D
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OOOooooo Girly auto hey.
;D ;D ;D
Auto...me...never >:(
Although it does seem connected to OOF DIY. Last time I cleaned the throttle body my revs went wierd, now I've changed the coolant my clutch has gone weird, connection :-?
It's now stiff as a b*stard and I have to start the car with the clutch down every time :-[
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OOOooooo Girly auto hey.
;D ;D ;D
Auto...me...never >:(
Although it does seem connected to OOF DIY. Last time I cleaned the throttle body my revs went wierd, now I've changed the coolant my clutch has gone weird, connection :-?
It's now stiff as a b*stard and I have to start the car with the clutch down every time :-[
Best leave it to someone who knows what they're doing Mark :D :D :D :D
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It's fixed. :o
Just gave it a wash and fully wax and now it's clean it's letting me into gear again. ;D
Gonna call it Herbie from now on :y