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Title: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 11:02:13
and it's locked in the boot!!

The AA are on their way to retrieve it, and i'm wondering if i were to get a key cut, just the blade, would it be enough to unlock the door that's deadlocked or does the fob need programming?

i dont lose keys, but locking in the boot might happen again, and if i have a blade cut that will just open the door for me to get in the car, then that'll do!

any help appreciated! its a facelift gls, so no boot keyhole
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: sir moanalot on 02 June 2007, 11:05:26
you will be able to get in the car but the alarm will go off!! your better to just get another done, key,cut,programmed etc. ive just been through it all!
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Craig_R on 02 June 2007, 11:18:54
Oh No What a nightmare.

I have the same problem One Key but i always double double check before i close the boot i have the key in my pocket, but its bound to happen to me one day i know.

I might get a key cut just for this problem happening, but i dont have a car pass i know you can get them and one day ill get my backside in gear and get one.

Craig
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 13:20:08
being a GLS i dont have an alarm, which in this case is a bonus!

being a postman, i'm forever in and out of the boot so it was bound to happen, they dropped into the boot out of my shirt pocket and i put an empty post bag on them without knowing, so i just shut the boot not ever thinkin i'd be dopey enough to have left them

i have them now, and he didnt have to smash any windows either, and he's given me a number of a guy local to me who can apparently get me a key, cut it AND program it, for a hell of a lot less than vauxhall, AND he can come to my house to do it!

200 homes got their mail 2 hours late  :-[
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: MickAP on 02 June 2007, 13:45:00
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200 homes got their mail 2 hours late  :-[

Get em to take you out in the van mate, I did when I was on delivery
BTW how you voting up there Yes or No?

Mick
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 14:01:32
i havent yet but i think it'll be a no, i cant afford to lose money for each day not workin!

cant be doin with gettin taken in the van, i did that the first week when waiting for my insurance to be updated, much prefer the car!!
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2007, 15:01:59
Getting a second key isn't that expensive, and is worthwhile.  You need:


Then get it programmed to car via Tech2, which will need a carpass. The carpass is anywhere from £15 to £45, depending on how much of a robber your dealer is.
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: philayl on 02 June 2007, 15:20:27
Hi, if you can get the key and fob, there is a very good independant, with a Tech2, in Widnes, his charges are very reasonable, you will need the car, the key and fob, and the car pass. If you are interested PM me for the details.
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2007, 15:21:29
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Hi, if you can get the key and fob, there is a very good independant, with a Tech2, in Widnes, his charges are very reasonable, you will need the car, the key and fob, and the car pass. If you are interested PM me for the details.
And people near Brackley...... (or the lakes next weekend)....
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: philayl on 02 June 2007, 15:24:51
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Hi, if you can get the key and fob, there is a very good independant, with a Tech2, in Widnes, his charges are very reasonable, you will need the car, the key and fob, and the car pass. If you are interested PM me for the details.
And people near Brackley...... (or the lakes next weekend)....

I think Widnes is nearer Wigan than Brackley Jamie ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 15:36:36
i have my key anyway but i have no car pass

this guy i've been recommended can apparently read the key and duplicate it, would he probably require the car pass for that? i dont have one
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2007, 16:31:05
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i have my key anyway but i have no car pass

this guy i've been recommended can apparently read the key and duplicate it, would he probably require the car pass for that? i dont have one
I doubt he can duplicate it.

Carpass will be required.
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: hol666 on 02 June 2007, 18:08:38
 :-? Timpsons had no problem copying the code from mine when I had a replacement cut.  They did say that from 97 it was main dealer job.  Lucky me and glad you got it sorted with no damage.  :y
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 18:49:35
cheers

as long as i dont lock them in the car again, its not a matter of urgency
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: spurno on 02 June 2007, 18:51:56
you could always do what i did and get two from vauxhall.only cost £180.00. OUCH!!!
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 19:26:03
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you could always do what i did and get two from vauxhall.only cost £180.00. OUCH!!!

bargain, i'll order 4!
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 02 June 2007, 20:13:51
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and it's locked in the boot!!

The AA are on their way to retrieve it, and i'm wondering if i were to get a key cut, just the blade, would it be enough to unlock the door that's deadlocked or does the fob need programming?

i dont lose keys, but locking in the boot might happen again, and if i have a blade cut that will just open the door for me to get in the car, then that'll do!

any help appreciated! its a facelift gls, so no boot keyhole

I'm sorry to ask this but how have you locked your key in the boot?

If i was to put my key in the boot then shut it down i could open it again straight after. :-?

As i press the button on the key to lock the car....
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 20:55:43
car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

what MY is your car?

the facelift saloons boot lid doesnt have a button or a keyhole
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Andy B on 02 June 2007, 21:04:56
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car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

 ......

This is exactly what happened to a lad from the Yahoo Omega group, only the car was a Jag X type. We had to wait while his wife drove from Stafford to Halewood with his spare key so I could get what I'd met him for. She was surprising good about it - far better than mine would have been.  ;D
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 02 June 2007, 21:18:03
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car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

what MY is your car?

the facelift saloons boot lid doesnt have a button or a keyhole

1998 MV6 (mini facelift)

so are you saying as soon as you shut the doors the car just deadlocks or am i getting it wrong?
sounds a little silly could have had kids in the car! :-?


Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2007, 21:47:12
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car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

what MY is your car?

the facelift saloons boot lid doesnt have a button or a keyhole

1998 MV6 (mini facelift)

so are you saying as soon as you shut the doors the car just deadlocks or am i getting it wrong?
sounds a little silly could have had kids in the car! :-?


The facelifts have no mechanical opening mechanism for the boot like prefacelifts - its either opened from button on dash, or via the 3rd button on the remote.
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2007, 21:49:41
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:-? Timpsons had no problem copying the code from mine when I had a replacement cut.  They did say that from 97 it was main dealer job.  Lucky me and glad you got it sorted with no damage.  :y
Not on the RF remotes from late 95 onwards - the system is designed to defeat 'cloned' keys and uses a rolling code.  The earlier IR ones (94 and early 95) are much simpler affairs, and cannot be done with a Tech2 anyway (needs a Tech1 or generic key programmer).
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 02 June 2007, 21:57:19
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car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

what MY is your car?

the facelift saloons boot lid doesnt have a button or a keyhole

1998 MV6 (mini facelift)

so are you saying as soon as you shut the doors the car just deadlocks or am i getting it wrong?
sounds a little silly could have had kids in the car! :-?



no, when you lock and deadlock the doors, you can still open the boot with the key fob, the doors stay locked and deadlocked, i'd been back to the car after each bag of mail, leaving the car itself locked because i wasnt driving it anywhere, just getting bags out of the boot
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 02 June 2007, 22:54:38
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car deadlocked, i open the boot using the key, put keys in shirt pocket, rearrange bags in boot, take out what i need, throw empty bag in, keys drop out of shirt pocket into boot and empty bag covers it, unnoticed, i shut boot

the key is needed to open the boot, and while the car's deadlocked shut i cant get in the car to press the boot release by the cd player

what MY is your car?

the facelift saloons boot lid doesnt have a button or a keyhole

1998 MV6 (mini facelift)

so are you saying as soon as you shut the doors the car just deadlocks or am i getting it wrong?
sounds a little silly could have had kids in the car! :-?



no, when you lock and deadlock the doors, you can still open the boot with the key fob, the doors stay locked and deadlocked, i'd been back to the car after each bag of mail, leaving the car itself locked because i wasnt driving it anywhere, just getting bags out of the boot

Oh right i am with ya now!
Have you managed to get into your car now then??
Has your car got a key hole in the door?
They say if you have a tennis ball cut in half and put it over the key hole, then hit it the doors open :-?
maybe worth a try..
Title: Re: My car has one key..
Post by: Danny on 03 June 2007, 12:24:13
i'm lead to believe the tennis ball method was just a myth, the door locks were deadlocked anyway but i got them back

i shant explain how, because i dont think its for a public forum  ::)