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Title: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen hot
Post by: gnasha on 19 May 2007, 21:53:03
when the car gets hot it runs like a pig when ya put ya foot down it struggles to pull away sturtters and when ya get to about 60/70 it judders any idea's plz i not got a clue about newish car's
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 May 2007, 21:56:17
1) Any ECU light on the dash, does it light when the ignition is first turned on adn then go off once the engine fires....

2) If no ECU light then its either an air leak (check all inlet ducting carefully) or igniton system.....so pull a few plug leads off and check for oil in the plug wells as a starter for ten...
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 20 May 2007, 09:17:49
ecu light if that the engine light then yer it comes on then goes off will have to see if i can get a set off plugs and try to fit them
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Admin on 20 May 2007, 09:24:03
Ok if the EM light (the orange one on the dash) comes on, then it is storing a fault (or 2).

First let's find out what they are...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152601768

and this will tell you what the code means
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1160152415

Do the check and report back before you do anything else.
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Ronald_McBurger on 20 May 2007, 11:26:14
my money is on the auto box. :(
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 20 May 2007, 13:14:27
the light only comes on when ignition is turned on then when u start the car it goes off thought that was normal to show the light works
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: nemesis_v6 on 20 May 2007, 14:11:53
dose the light flase like mine done just before i got the famous crank sensor replaced
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 20 May 2007, 15:56:44
nope no flashing
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Admin on 20 May 2007, 19:28:18
Ok, so let's get a detailed description of the problem.

1. How is it to start. Does it start first time?

2. Does it idle smoothly?

3. When driving does it deliver power smoothly to a certain point then get "juddery"?
Does it cruise ok, but then judder when you put your foot down?
Say for instance you are cruising along at 40-50mph then you put your foot down to accelerate, does it almost hold back and struggle to pick up speed?

4. Does the EM (orange) light come on at all when driving?


Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Ronald_McBurger on 20 May 2007, 19:49:24
gearbox, gearbox. Did I mention gearbox?
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 20 May 2007, 22:40:25
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Ok, so let's get a detailed description of the problem.

1. How is it to start. Does it start first time?
A. yep

2. Does it idle smoothly?
A. not really sound's n feels like it misses a beat now and then

3. When driving does it deliver power smoothly to a certain point then get "juddery"?
A. in the morning ya can put ya foot down and it deliver's smoth but then it warms up and judders all the time while pulling

Does it cruise ok, but then judder when you put your foot down?
A. at low speed if just touching pedel feels fine put foot down and juddering starts
 
Say for instance you are cruising along at 40-50mph then you put your foot down to accelerate, does it almost hold back and struggle to pick up speed?
A. yep have to bk of throttle and slowly build speed

4. Does the EM (orange) light come on at all when driving?
nope never had it come on after start up



Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Admin on 20 May 2007, 23:30:23
As Mark said at the top of the thread..... that will be the DIS pack failing then. :)
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 21 May 2007, 09:30:18
sounds expensive is there a way to test before buying and how hard is it to do
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2007, 09:36:10
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gearbox, gearbox. Did I mention gearbox?

Shut it you tart.....we want to diagnose it properly.....
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2007, 09:38:04
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sounds expensive is there a way to test before buying and how hard is it to do


Do check the leads for damage and oil etc first......

Not to pricey new, about 90 quid for a DIS......dont by leads from Vx though, very expensive!
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Abiton on 21 May 2007, 09:43:04
Sorry to hijack, in a small way, but what does DIS actually stand for?
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 May 2007, 09:48:15
DIS - Distributor-less Ignition System.....one coil fires two plugs...
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Gaffers on 21 May 2007, 18:12:09
Just thinking back to dougal's probs, could that be the source of his woes? Remember the guy whose car piled in after overtaking someone...
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Admin on 21 May 2007, 20:36:45
No, his is much more likely to be exhaust (even if Mark completely disagrees!  ;))
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 21 May 2007, 22:52:04
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gearbox, gearbox. Did I mention gearbox?

Shut it you tart.....we want to diagnose it properly.....

LMAO  ;D

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No, his is much more likely to be exhaust (even if Mark completely disagrees!  ;))

I'm sure i read through pages and pages of this.  Wasn't it a dodgy non GM cat that was the cause?
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 22 May 2007, 09:52:48
so how do i get it off any one got a pic by pic destruction on how to do it :question
do i need it of to no which one i need to get :question
still confusing to me as when cold its fine. would rather trust u lot than the local V stealer as when my dad has had troubs they have cost him ££££££££ changine sensers that did not need doing
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 May 2007, 10:23:00
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No, his is much more likely to be exhaust (even if Mark completely disagrees!  ;))

It should idle fine if that was the case when warm (because it does when cold on a rich mixture) and if completely blocked would have blown an air injection pipe by now........
Title: Re: s like a pig if ya put ya foot down it likwhen
Post by: gnasha on 03 June 2007, 13:57:44
changed plugs and leads today seems to b running fine now so not dis pack thank f***