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Title: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: VX1 on 15 June 2007, 22:00:41
What could this car have wrong with? Suspect engine siezed?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-CDX-V6-AUTO-SILVER_W0QQitemZ270132194915QQihZ017QQcategoryZ9858QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: TheBoy on 15 June 2007, 22:02:53
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What could this car have wrong with? Suspect engine siezed?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-CDX-V6-AUTO-SILVER_W0QQitemZ270132194915QQihZ017QQcategoryZ9858QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ah, I guess it didn't sell last time.....
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Timbuk on 15 June 2007, 22:03:26
This car has been on before  :-/
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 15 June 2007, 22:09:39
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What could this car have wrong with? Suspect engine siezed?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-CDX-V6-AUTO-SILVER_W0QQitemZ270132194915QQihZ017QQcategoryZ9858QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It sounds like cambelt let go.....bye bye engine  :(
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: markrl on 15 June 2007, 22:11:43
Fatal cam belt failure due to no 40k belt change. Everything else I would take with a pinch of salt.
Wax lyrical descriptions of climate control and the cars features are somewhat irrelevant if the engines been totalled.    
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: VX1 on 15 June 2007, 22:16:48
Would be good for an engine change then to a 3.0ltr. What do you reckon about that. Is this possible without to many upgrade's?
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: TheBoy on 15 June 2007, 22:18:40
If you put in a 3.0l engine, you would also need to upgrade gearbox - the 3.0l would rip the AR25 to shreds...
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: VX1 on 15 June 2007, 22:24:28
The donor car would be loosing the engine and gearbox to put into the other car. The engine and gearbox would be coming from a "R" reg. Is this still possible?
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Andy B on 15 June 2007, 22:31:27
Looking at the Haynes manual for the pre face lift the diff ratio could also be wrong if you put a 3.0 into a 2.5
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 June 2007, 22:35:35
It's got drive by wire throttles and coil on plug ignition too. The 3.0's didn't have that, so whilst you could probably swap all the bits over and physically fit a 3.0, there isn't an engine management system that supports the 3.0 with DBW and there'd be nowhere to screw the coil packs on . Conversion back to manual throttle could turn into one hell of a project as all the wiring looms would be wrong. Maybe a 3.2 DBW engine management would work on a 3.0 engine, maybe not... Could put a 3.2 or 2.6 in, but there aren't as many around second hand.

There's something not right about that ad too. The car is advertised with a mileage, and the picture shows a dash with what looks like the correct mileage, and the engine's idling at 500 rpm. So did the engine sieze just as the seller had finished taking photos or what? Also, why has he chucked that nasty looking mat on the driver's side carpet? It looks terrible, so expect the carpet underneath to look worse. Stereo is in "safe" mode.

If it was really cheap and for someone willing to bide their time and wait for the bits to do it up, and take a bit of a risk, it could be a nice project, but it's a bit of an unknown quantity, IMHO.

Kevin
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 June 2007, 22:40:05
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If you put in a 3.0l engine, you would also need to upgrade gearbox - the 3.0l would rip the AR25 to shreds...

 >:( >:( >:(

 ;D ::)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Markie on 15 June 2007, 23:02:39
I havent even looked at the add - but let me guess the old sterling cars mob....if its the silver one its also got no service history ....no wonder the engines siezed.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: TheBoy on 15 June 2007, 23:10:38
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I havent even looked at the add - but let me guess the old sterling cars mob....if its the silver one its also got no service history ....no wonder the engines siezed.
Correct!
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 16 June 2007, 13:49:40
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Looking at the Haynes manual for the pre face lift the diff ratio could also be wrong if you put a 3.0 into a 2.5

The 3.0 auto is over geared anyway
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: TheBoy on 16 June 2007, 14:02:49
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Looking at the Haynes manual for the pre face lift the diff ratio could also be wrong if you put a 3.0 into a 2.5

The 3.0 auto is over geared anyway
Not really, the extra torque means it can be higher geared....   ....obviously, if you are after fastest 0 - 60s, get a manual...
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: STMO123 on 16 June 2007, 22:48:27
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If you put in a 3.0l engine, you would also need to upgrade gearbox - the 3.0l would rip the AR25 to shreds...

Ermm...Ahhh......well.... :-X
Title: Re: Whats wrong with this!!!
Post by: ians on 17 June 2007, 00:47:56
I seem to recall it 'went' for £1500 or so first time round.   I had sent them a request to go and inspect it - no reply.