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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: jud1255 on 16 June 2007, 18:18:34

Title: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 16 June 2007, 18:18:34

hiya which gas will be in my 98 elite ,
will it be r134
Also i have some r12 would i be able to top up with r12
thanks

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: sassanach on 16 June 2007, 18:21:29

r134a mate, dont you dare top it up with r12, r12 and modern pag oil do not mix

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 16 June 2007, 18:29:27

thanks.
so r12 is definatley a no no ,will have t find some r134

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: cdx25 on 16 June 2007, 18:37:06

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thanks.
so r12 is definatley a no no ,will have t find some r134

Yep - you certainly dont want to mix the two.  Also, best way of topping up is to empty the system and then put the correct amount of R134 in - its the proper way of doing a recharge.  Couple of threads on here detail peoples experience of doing this...  Shame you are not nearer Plymouth otherwise I could help you out with this.

Jon

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 16 June 2007, 19:19:43

thanks all the same Plymouth is a little 2 far ha ha, will the gauges that i use for the r12 work with r134 or will i need some adaptors.
I  use to recharge the a/c  on the cadillac and  other gm yanks that i had .Its the first british car ive had for many years no regrets apart for the big loss in value  where the yanks i never lost a penny on them.

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: cdx25 on 16 June 2007, 19:45:19

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thanks all the same Plymouth is a little 2 far ha ha, will the gauges that i use for the r12 work with r134 or will i need some adaptors.
I  use to recharge the a/c  on the cadillac and  other gm yanks that i had .Its the first british car ive had for many years no regrets apart for the big loss in value  where the yanks i never lost a penny on them.

You will need the adaptors to screw onto the R12 threaded fitting to install the bayonet R134 type ones on.  Had an old brit car that I did this on, they are easily available, maybe even on ebay.

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: Dave-C on 17 June 2007, 09:04:00

R12 is outlawed in this country, to my knowledge anyway...  CFC ruling....  Iscon 49 is it's replacement and doesn't affect the oil that was used by the R12 in the system.....   We can only use the 134 in the VX's as far as I know....

As previously said "They don't mix"

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 17 June 2007, 16:35:26

yes i know about the r12 but im not parting with it as last time i renewed it several yrs ago i think it was about £400 for the bottle (gold dust).
Im now lookin to get some r134 but need some new contacts.
Anybody know of a cheap outlet/supplier
thanks

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: cdx25 on 17 June 2007, 17:30:24

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yes i know about the r12 but im not parting with it as last time i renewed it several yrs ago i think it was about £400 for the bottle (gold dust).
Im now lookin to get some r134 but need some new contacts.
Anybody know of a cheap outlet/supplier
thanks

I picked up a bulk R134a cylinder for about 80 quid - from Euro Car Parts I think it was.  About 13kg of the stuff.  They also did the oils etc.  May be cheaper places around but that worked for me,

Jon

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: Ronald_McBurger on 17 June 2007, 18:27:54

Did someone actually mention putting R12 in an omega?

Oh dear.... I feel the wrath of Matchless coming........

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: cdx25 on 17 June 2007, 20:13:19

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Did someone actually mention putting R12 in an omega?

Oh dear.... I feel the wrath of Matchless coming........

eh - why?

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 17 June 2007, 21:16:11

i only asked didnt say i was going to

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: Matchless on 17 June 2007, 22:46:38

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Did someone actually mention putting R12 in an omega?

Oh dear.... I feel the wrath of Matchless coming........

eh - why?

Because I dabble in a/c.
Ronnie, its not my car so why would I get upset if someone wants to completely wreck the a/c on their own car? And ive owned a 3.0 Elite so I cant be an environment activist can I?

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: ffcgary1 on 17 June 2007, 23:07:24

You could make a fortune out of  your supply of R12,a few years ago i tried to get the system re gassed on my mk2 granny,no body had any R12 or were too scared to use it in case the enviorment police turned up When i did get someone who would do it they wanted £300 . :(

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: cdx25 on 17 June 2007, 23:11:07

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Did someone actually mention putting R12 in an omega?

Oh dear.... I feel the wrath of Matchless coming........

eh - why?

Because I dabble in a/c.
Ronnie, its not my car so why would I get upset if someone wants to completely wreck the a/c on their own car? And ive owned a 3.0 Elite so I cant be an environment activist can I?

Ah I see.

>> 3.0 Elite so I cant be an environment activist

Good point   ;D

Title: Re: Which Aircon Gas
Post by: jud1255 on 19 June 2007, 11:12:13

Just to be a pain ,
ive read somewhere that you can mix r134 and r407 "is this true" and what is the results.
Yes you gussed it i also got a big bottle r407
he he, this is for the system in my home .
meanwhile i am still lookig for some r12 gauge adaptors eg fjc 6025 and a big bottle of r134.
 seen em on ebay but waiting for a bargain as ive been on sick for the last 4 months

update
ive bought some adaptors now i need some r134 , Anybody ?