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Title: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisable?
Post by: estaszew on 09 July 2007, 17:05:09
I am wondering if it would be advisable to put a fuel system cleaner or fuel injector cleaner into my 3.0 with 125,000 miles.  I have had it since 100,000 and I never ran these through it (and doubt it had ever before).  Everything is clean and has used Mobil 1 synthetic for 100,000+ miles.  Does anyone think the cleaner could cause more problems if there is anything that is loosened?  I'd like to run something like this through to keep everything clean and running smooth.  I'm looking at the products at www.stp.com.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 July 2007, 17:16:06
It probably can't do any harm although in my experience if it has a seriously clogged injector it will take more than that to clean it. Are you suffering any symptoms or is this just a precautionary?

It's probably not a bad habit to flush some cleaner through it once a year or so. Make sure the fuel filter is changed as required as well, and you'll be doing all you can to prevent problems in this area.

Kevin
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 July 2007, 17:19:20
I put a bottle of Forte to half a tank of fuel through mine every 5K miles.

Forte is about the best stuff I have found....not that impressed with STP products as a whole to be honest.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: estaszew on 09 July 2007, 19:38:46
Thanks for the replies.  I have not experienced any problems in this area (just want to keep it this way).  I live in the US, so unless I special order the Forte treatment I am stuck with using something like STP.  I'll give it a try later today...
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Alvaro on 09 July 2007, 20:46:26
I've used sonax cleaner in my fathers pickup (Chevrolet S10) with every oil change. I don't notice anything in particular. Probably it helps to keep the fuel system clean, but is difficult to know.
The bottle isn't expensive, so I think it is a good habit to use it.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2007, 22:19:14
I too would go along with MDTM's suggestion. I use Forte in my 3.0l which has 144k on the clock.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Jimbob on 10 July 2007, 08:10:12
Ive used STP a fair few times, does seem to make a difference to both smoothness and economy
I have some Forte ( you get it off ebay) for next time, due in a couple of thou miles.
I found less impressive results from redex, so from what I can gather, order of effectiveness, Forte, Stp, Redex.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 July 2007, 08:35:15
Where can you buy the forte stuff from?
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Lordmpl on 10 July 2007, 09:06:48
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300126949586&rd=1&rd=1
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Lordmpl on 10 July 2007, 09:07:41
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140135222152&rd=1&rd=1
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 July 2007, 09:16:28
Duh, never thought of eBay! Thanks for that, will order some.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Markie on 10 July 2007, 11:08:21
its very good but its not cheap is our Forte Bio,,, :-/
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: OMEGA VXR on 10 July 2007, 15:55:22
Vauxhall do injector cleaner its called COMMA is that any good?
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Dave-C on 10 July 2007, 18:54:18
VX in Stoke sell Forte...

DC
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: hobbes on 10 July 2007, 18:55:56
Would agree - that of any of the additives Forte tends to be the best, and recommended by REAL mechanics...the engine flush is good...but then again, it's hard to tell!

That said, unless you have a real case for concern .ie. dirty injectors they are usually more for a psycological benefit.

OK, I'm a bit of a sceptic with all of the lotions, potions & widgets, as if THOUSANDS of litres of petrol being forced through them doesn't keep them clean - what chance does one litre (diluted 1:50 to1:75) of 'cleaner' have?
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 July 2007, 22:33:03
Although my car mileage (approx 72000) is low I decided to use Carbon clean 2 months ago..

The mechanic warned me the engine will lose oil the first 1-2 weeks..

That did not happen..But the engine become more silent and smooth..

Another option is sound shock instruments what I have used on my fathers car ...Was also effective..

For preventive reasons injector cleaners are good I think.But strong deposits are hard to move..
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: phil.p on 13 July 2007, 17:21:49
there is another called protec,i used this on my pajero ( 2.5 diesel ) and it made a lot off difference.
and they also do it for petrol engines .
it's recommended by mitsubishi for there engines.
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Auto Addict on 13 July 2007, 18:13:59
Here's another source http://www.motorforce.co.uk/product.php?catId=0081&prodId=0344
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: gizza on 14 July 2007, 03:12:42
you could try putting some acertone(needs to be 100% not nail varnish remover) in it, its £2 for 500 ml from any good chemist and you want to add 1-2ml per litre of fuel start with the higher strenth for the 1st few tanks then drop to the lower strength, ive been using it in my omega and my motorbike for the last 6 months and its great better mpg, lower emmissons (measeured at the last mot with and without) and the engine is very quite on both car and bike, i stripped down the throttle body on the omega a few weeks ago and its clean as a whistle where as before using it it was cacked in crap
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Dave-C on 14 July 2007, 06:40:36
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you could try putting some acertone(needs to be 100% not nail varnish remover) in it, its £2 for 500 ml from any good chemist and you want to add 1-2ml per litre of fuel start with the higher strenth for the 1st few tanks then drop to the lower strength, ive been using it in my omega and my motorbike for the last 6 months and its great better mpg, lower emmissons (measeured at the last mot with and without) and the engine is very quite on both car and bike, i stripped down the throttle body on the omega a few weeks ago and its clean as a whistle where as before using it it was cacked in crap


Do people keep stopping you though and asking for your beautician services....  Sorry ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Acetone will break down most petro chemically produced mediums, carb cleaners and the likes are full of things like this and Xylene...  So yes, I think, good move this one.. ..

DC
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: Pitchfork on 14 July 2007, 09:38:32
Is the Acetone treatment safe for use in Diesels as well?
IW
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: 2001CatOwner on 14 July 2007, 14:50:13
I am all for it.  I add Techron gas additive every oil change and run a oil cleaner of the same company.  In that much time (5-7000mi) with sythentic and the cleaners it MAKES a difference in my car. :y
Title: Re: Fuel System or Fuel Injector Cleaners - Advisa
Post by: gizza on 15 July 2007, 03:14:34
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Is the Acetone treatment safe for use in Diesels as well?
IW
yes it works on diesels too just dont tell the chemist that your putting it in your fuel i got some funny looks and some drawn in breaths when i told him but now he uses it in his merc and has commented on how much better his car feels