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Title: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 09 August 2007, 15:37:04
Put the Forte Cooling System Flush in then run the car for 30 mins just over...
now the temperature gauge would not go over the  92 1/2 line.....
that is cooler than i have seen it since owning the car but will the water have gone around the radiator? you may laugh but when the thermostat hasn't opened the water pump is still pumping the coolant through the rad and system isn't it! ....At what temp does the thermostat open as a rule?
The reason for asking this question is I don't want to drain the Forte stuff out if the thermostat needs to open to let it go around the system... :-?
At what temp does the thermostat open as a rule?
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Grumpy on 09 August 2007, 15:51:13
you may laugh but when the thermostat hasn't opened the water pump is still pumping the coolant through the rad and system isn't it!

No. The coolant is pumped round the engine and heater matrix until the thermostat
opens at approx 92, and then it is pumped through the rad.

I would suggest that your stat opened at 92 and then stabilised the engine temp.
The stat will cycle from closed to full open around 92 to 107 in an attempt
to keep the engine temp stable.

Have a feel of your rad hoses, to see if a flow is going through your rad.
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Dazzler on 09 August 2007, 15:54:43
The stat should have opened during the 30 mins you were running the car for. Did you have a feel of the system pipes were all of even temp?? was the heater blowing hot in the car???? Don't get confused about needing to put a stat in boiling water to open when you test it out of the car. Did the rad fan cut in whilst it was running????
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 09 August 2007, 16:04:42
When using this forte stuff, is it ok to make a few small trips in the car to get the forte all round the system?  If other agree, maybe you could try this?
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 09 August 2007, 16:05:56
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The stat should have opened during the 30 mins you were running the car for. Did you have a feel of the system pipes were all of even temp?? was the heater blowing hot in the car???? Don't get confused about needing to put a stat in boiling water to open when you test it out of the car. Did the rad fan cut in whilst it was running????

The be honest I didn't feel the rad hoses no :-[

Yes the heater I had on HI and blowing full bore, you could hardly stick sitting in it with the windows open it was that hot ;D

No the fan didn't kick in.  The electric fan usually kicked in about 97 degrees, but even though the car had been stanging all that time the gauge didn't go over 92 1/2 :-?

Daz
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 09 August 2007, 16:07:24
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When using this forte stuff, is it ok to make a few small trips in the car to get the forte all round the system?  If other agree, maybe you could try this?

I have done ::)

But still never went above 92 1/2 .......

Maybe it is done then as Mark reckons this is brilliant stuff :)
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 August 2007, 16:12:31
A V6 won't run for long without a working radiator with coolant circulating through it!

Might well be worth giving it a quick blatt with the additive in just to ensure it's been circulated with some force and with the thermostat well open, but if it's already behaving better I'd suggest its' work is done.

Kevin
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Dazzler on 09 August 2007, 17:09:07
Sounds super efficent to me Loo-Knee ;) You should have felt the pipes and rad though just be sure the whole system was of equal temp ;)
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 09 August 2007, 17:23:38
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Sounds super efficent to me Loo-Knee ;) You should have felt the pipes and rad though just be sure the whole system was of equal temp ;)

I have know felt all the water hoses and they feel the same hot ;D I have been for a run in the car and the temp went just over halfway when i was in traffic jam, the fan kicked in and switched off again when gauge was at the line under half.... :y
So let the car cool a little now before dropping the coolant, then fill with just water then drop it then 50-50 red coolant... should be job done eh! :y
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Dazzler on 09 August 2007, 20:15:48
Top-man, well done :y :y
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: TheBoy on 09 August 2007, 21:07:11
The Forte is the dogs danglies....
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 09 August 2007, 22:10:23
I drained out the Forte and there were black bits of what looked like Weetabix in the very black water, so i left the little screw undone at the bottom of the rad, and got the hose and kept filling the reservoir until the water started running out clean. I have now filled up 50-50 anti-freeze and will do it again in a week or so....

Thanks for yet help yet again guys :y
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 August 2007, 22:14:36
That Forte flush sure is good shit.....
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: LFF64 on 09 August 2007, 22:17:20
Is this flush readily avalible and what sort of price would I expect to pay please
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: TheBoy on 09 August 2007, 22:21:42
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Is this flush readily avalible and what sort of price would I expect to pay please
Yes, freely available.  Apparently one of the shops in Bicester sells it. Omegatoy will probably know which shop...
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: LFF64 on 11 August 2007, 12:20:31
Hello just about to use the some of this stuff, just been reading the instructions (makes a change) ;) and it says after its been in the system it needs to be flushed through and I need to remove the stat question is do I really need to do this couldnt  I just let it run around and flush it a couple of times it may take longer but will be easier wont it  :)
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: mahony on 11 August 2007, 13:50:56
ive just got some forte radiator flush off of ebay,im not gonna bother with removing the thermostat either,just gonna refill cooling system three or four times with fresh water and then re-fill with a 50/50 water coolant mix.
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: LFF64 on 11 August 2007, 14:46:26
Ok just finished doing mine without taking stat out its been flushed through several times and now seems to be more or less just clean water I doubt it would be free from some traces anyway  :) My tempgauge was sitting around 95-97 on all journey types the temp is now reading just over 90 now  :y . The coolant in my system was pretty clean to start with too so just goes to show you cant tell whats inside the engine  
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 11 August 2007, 18:22:57
The Forte Cooling System Flush that I had made no mention of removing the thermostat :-?
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: TheBoy on 11 August 2007, 19:11:31
forte does say remove stat. easy on my tractor.

just flush through a few times, doing a few miles inbetween, then get right 50:50 mix in there.
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Elite Pete on 11 August 2007, 21:33:11
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The Forte Cooling System Flush that I had made no mention of removing the thermostat :-?

You probably used the one for the oil ::) ;D
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 12 August 2007, 11:19:34
Not only does it say remove it, my bottle says replace it?

Why is this?  Is it because the treatment eats at the stat?

I'm reluctant to replace the stat as i works just as it is now.
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: ffcgary1 on 12 August 2007, 13:05:42
Forte cooling system flush green lid to Quote the instructions

1= SHAKE WELL
2=ADD ONE 500ML BOTTLE TO COOLING SYSEM FLUSH OF A TYPICAL MOTOR VEHICLE
3= IDLE ENGINE FOR 20- 30MINS AFTER REACING OPERATING  TEMP WITH HEATER CONTROLS ON
4=DRAIN THE SYSTEM,REMOVE THE THERMOSTAT AND RINSE THOROUGHLY WITH CLEAN WATER
5=REPLACE THERMOSTAT,REFILL WITH COOLANT AND FORTE COOLING SYSTEM CONDITIONER
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Grumpy on 12 August 2007, 14:25:56
Not only does it say remove it, my bottle says replace it?

It means put it back in after flushing, not renew it.

It's a bit like the Americans putting warnings on packets of peanuts saying,

"This product may contain nuts".   :D

It's all to do with avoiding litigation, they've told you to take it out for the flush,
so they have to tell you to refit it in case you follow instructions to the letter
and try and sue them.
Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 12 August 2007, 15:09:27
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forte does say remove stat. easy on my tractor.

just flush through a few times, doing a few miles inbetween, then get right 50:50 mix in there.


Not on my bottle it doesn't

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Title: Re: Flushing out coolant
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 12 August 2007, 15:11:39
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The Forte Cooling System Flush that I had made no mention of removing the thermostat :-?

You probably used the one for the oil ::) ;D

No I didn't ::)

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