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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 25 September 2007, 22:20:58
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As if I needed this right now.
Got taken aside by my team leader tonight, he told me that Internal Systems have complained that last night I used the network in an inappropriate way.
Basically a work mate sent me some links to his own site, one of which was a (harmless) zip file, which Scansafe wouldn't let me access. All totally legit and harmless.
Now I gather human resources have instructed Internal Sys to look through ALL my browsing history and emails to make sure I'm not doing anything I shouldn't be.
Joy.
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do you have internet / email policies? Do you know what consumption is allowed..?
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do you have internet / email policies? Do you know what consumption is allowed..?
I know exactly what the policies are - and I've not breached any of them.
personal use is allowed as long as it's clean and legal and not likely to harm systems,
they seem to think I was trying to download a key logger - which is just not true!!
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I keep mine well trimmed back - but then I tend to stick to about 8 sites at work and 3 of them are IT related, plus here, Ebay, BBC News, and a couple of others.
So couple of times a day the office gets the headlines!!
As to leaving trails - I leave none
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do you have internet / email policies? Do you know what consumption is allowed..?
I know exactly what the policies are - and I've not breached any of them.
personal use is allowed as long as it's clean and legal and not likely to harm systems,
they seem to think I was trying to download a key logger - which is just not true!!
Then you`ll be absolutely fine :) :y
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do you have internet / email policies? Do you know what consumption is allowed..?
I know exactly what the policies are - and I've not breached any of them.
personal use is allowed as long as it's clean and legal and not likely to harm systems,
they seem to think I was trying to download a key logger - which is just not true!!
Then you will be fine, do they know about your Police aspirations, if so do they really think that you would do something illegal if you wanted to uphold the law.
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I have put a huge amount of time and dedication into my department, (and company) at times of need, and I've always acted honestly and diligently.
I can't do anymore - if that isn't believed, then maybe I'm working in the wrong place...
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I have put a huge amount of time and dedication into my department, (and company) at times of need, and I've always acted honestly and diligently.
I can't do anymore - if that isn't believed, then maybe I'm working in the wrong place...
You are mature beyond your years James, I think they know it, I am pretty sure you will be OK.
How big is the company (how many employees)?
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I have put a huge amount of time and dedication into my department, (and company) at times of need, and I've always acted honestly and diligently.
I can't do anymore - if that isn't believed, then maybe I'm working in the wrong place...
You are mature beyond your years James, I think they know it, I am pretty sure you will be OK.
How big is the company (how many employees)?
500+ at a guess...
I was an IT officer for the NHS for over 5 years before I came here... so I'm no stranger to IT policies.
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As if I needed this right now.
Got taken aside by my team leader tonight, he told me that Internal Systems have complained that last night I used the network in an inappropriate way.
Basically a work mate sent me some links to his own site, one of which was a (harmless) zip file, which Scansafe wouldn't let me access. All totally legit and harmless.
Now I gather human resources have instructed Internal Sys to look through ALL my browsing history and emails to make sure I'm not doing anything I shouldn't be.
Joy.
Most of the time firewall and similiar software logging databases are not arranged to hold long history data..
if the company you are working is a crowded one also filtering your requests are troublesome..
And most network engineers dont understand sql queries ..
And I think someone catch you either by the help of a scanserver or from the network load at late time..
hope this relaxes a bit..
ooops 500+... :) really they need to work hard..
PS: Some companies like to use group policies on the domain + pc controlling softwares..These are installed automatically when you logon..Check those also..
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I have put a huge amount of time and dedication into my department, (and company) at times of need, and I've always acted honestly and diligently.
I can't do anymore - if that isn't believed, then maybe I'm working in the wrong place...
You are mature beyond your years James, I think they know it, I am pretty sure you will be OK.
How big is the company (how many employees)?
500+ at a guess...
I was an IT officer for the NHS for over 5 years before I came here... so I'm no stranger to IT policies.
Small cog big wheel, so it will be handled differenty to a small company
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I know what you mean James the more you try to help out the more you get pooped on it seems I have the same problem where I am makes you wonder some times
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As if I needed this right now.
Got taken aside by my team leader tonight, he told me that Internal Systems have complained that last night I used the network in an inappropriate way.
Basically a work mate sent me some links to his own site, one of which was a (harmless) zip file, which Scansafe wouldn't let me access. All totally legit and harmless.
Now I gather human resources have instructed Internal Sys to look through ALL my browsing history and emails to make sure I'm not doing anything I shouldn't be.
Joy.
Most of the time firewall and similiar software logging databases are not arranged to hold long history data..
if the company you are working is a crowded one also filtering your requests are troublesome..
And most network engineers dont understand sql queries ..
And I think someone catch you either by the help of a scanserver or from the network load at late time..
hope this relaxes a bit..
ooops 500+... :) really they need to work hard..
PS: Some companies like to use group policies on the domain + pc controlling softwares..These are installed automatically when you logon..Check those also..
Company that size is likely to have a proxy server (ISA or similar), which does log history.
Ultimately it is all down to the Acceptable Use Policy or any other IT policy in place.
If personal use is allowed at all times (some limit it to lunch breaks etc) , it will usually be defined as 'reasonable use', in which case you will have to demonstrate that what you did was 'reasonable'.
And I suspect the link your friend sent you was to a 'dodgy' site which triggered the alarm at your Systems department.
Sorry I can't help more....
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We are an ISP, for which I am a technical engineer, so I know exactly how the systems are set up and how/what is logged ;)
I think nothing will come of it.... storm in a teacup...
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ISP's have different priorities than long time logging self workers internet usage data on big disk arrays !
Here also we have huge capacity disk arrays but as an experience web sense we are using is configured as 100 MB database thats cleaned up nearly every week !!
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We back up our websense databases and retain every day 5 tape in a secure offsite location....
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returning from backup means you need another alternate place (if sql backup is not used) for copying the db otherwise you need to stop working websense (if sql backup)..
in that case not practical until it becomes urgent..
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if you have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, stand your ground confidently
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I'll assume that you've informed any such union!
DC
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ISP's have different priorities than long time logging self workers internet usage data on big disk arrays !
Here also we have huge capacity disk arrays but as an experience web sense we are using is configured as 100 MB database thats cleaned up nearly every week !!
A little one then ;)
Not sure if you have the same rules in Turkey, but UK laws (may be EU law) determine want we have to save and for how long - and we generate hugh logs (Gbs) per day...
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ISP's have different priorities than long time logging self workers internet usage data on big disk arrays !
Here also we have huge capacity disk arrays but as an experience web sense we are using is configured as 100 MB database thats cleaned up nearly every week !!
A little one then ;)
Not sure if you have the same rules in Turkey, but UK laws (may be EU law) determine want we have to save and for how long - and we generate hugh logs (Gbs) per day...
then you are unlucky in case of urgency to restore those huge back ups ..
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ISP's have different priorities than long time logging self workers internet usage data on big disk arrays !
Here also we have huge capacity disk arrays but as an experience web sense we are using is configured as 100 MB database thats cleaned up nearly every week !!
A little one then ;)
Not sure if you have the same rules in Turkey, but UK laws (may be EU law) determine want we have to save and for how long - and we generate hugh logs (Gbs) per day...
then you are unlucky in case of urgency to restore those huge back ups ..
Fortunately we have a group that deal entirely with side of things ;D
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May be its time tell..I work in government organization (treasury department)..Nearly 3000 workers.
Just for those backup and control operations nearly 40 persons work but believe me
when you go and ask them for restoring backups their face is like this >:(
Hope yours are different.. :)
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May be its time tell..I work in government organization (treasury department)..Nearly 3000 workers.
Just for those backup and control operations nearly 40 persons work but believe me
when you go and ask them for restoring backups their face is like this >:(
Hope yours are different.. :)
Yes, very different. Much larger company, and proper procedures in place for such things :)
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May be its time tell..I work in government organization (treasury department)..Nearly 3000 workers.
Just for those backup and control operations nearly 40 persons work but believe me
when you go and ask them for restoring backups their face is like this >:(
Hope yours are different.. :)
Yes, very different. Much larger company, and proper procedures in place for such things :)
Just to remind..May be there will be proper procedures (that also we have) but human factor changes everything..
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May be its time tell..I work in government organization (treasury department)..Nearly 3000 workers.
Just for those backup and control operations nearly 40 persons work but believe me
when you go and ask them for restoring backups their face is like this >:(
Hope yours are different.. :)
Yes, very different. Much larger company, and proper procedures in place for such things :)
Just to remind..May be there will be proper procedures (that also we have) but human factor changes everything..
LOL, very true ;D
Though we, for the most part, have a decent bunch of people, so never too much hassles once you understand the procedures and red tape...
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By the way JamesV6CDX didnt post anything, is there any news from today..
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I got a right bo!!ocking at college once upon a time for breach of IT policy.
.....for having MP3's on my user account :o
Made me delete every single one of them. All ELEVEN. ::)
It's a music college so I dread to think of the work they're cut out with now! ;D
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I got a right bo!!ocking at college once upon a time for breach of IT policy.
.....for having MP3's on my user account :o
Made me delete every single one of them. All ELEVEN. ::)
It's a music college so I dread to think of the work they're cut out with now! ;D
We've just sacked a load for having MP3s on work PCs....
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I got a right bo!!ocking at college once upon a time for breach of IT policy.
.....for having MP3's on my user account :o
Made me delete every single one of them. All ELEVEN. ::)
It's a music college so I dread to think of the work they're cut out with now! ;D
We've just sacked a load for having MP3s on work PCs....
I would never leave stuff like that on the network drive (or even the local drive)... my solution is to burn a load of MP3s onto a DVD-R and just leave it in the drive when I want to listen to music. I'm sure plenty of people do have MP3 and the like on their home drive though, I don't think they really care enough to enforce it round here unless you're downloading them :O
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I got a right bo!!ocking at college once upon a time for breach of IT policy.
.....for having MP3's on my user account :o
Made me delete every single one of them. All ELEVEN. ::)
It's a music college so I dread to think of the work they're cut out with now! ;D
We've just sacked a load for having MP3s on work PCs....
I would never leave stuff like that on the network drive (or even the local drive)... my solution is to burn a load of MP3s onto a DVD-R and just leave it in the drive when I want to listen to music. I'm sure plenty of people do have MP3 and the like on their home drive though, I don't think they really care enough to enforce it round here unless you're downloading them :O
Depends on the policies in place - even playing from a removalable disk will be picked up and acted upon at our place :(
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I got a right bo!!ocking at college once upon a time for breach of IT policy.
.....for having MP3's on my user account :o
Made me delete every single one of them. All ELEVEN. ::)
It's a music college so I dread to think of the work they're cut out with now! ;D
We've just sacked a load for having MP3s on work PCs....
I would never leave stuff like that on the network drive (or even the local drive)... my solution is to burn a load of MP3s onto a DVD-R and just leave it in the drive when I want to listen to music. I'm sure plenty of people do have MP3 and the like on their home drive though, I don't think they really care enough to enforce it round here unless you're downloading them :O
Depends on the policies in place - even playing from a removalable disk will be picked up and acted upon at our place :(
really :( and heres me streaming live windows music as we speak ;D its allowed though for some reason
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there are special IPs here outside the websense and I use one of them.Thanks to friends..