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Title: climate control
Post by: miggy on 01 September 2007, 17:16:09
I seem to have a problem with the CDX, the climate control works fine in the front of the vehicle but the rear seems not right.

When i have it set on say, 18 degrees, the front is nice and cool but the rear center vents are blowing very hot, if I turn up the heat the front blows cool but no change with the rear.

I remember reading something about this before on the forum.

Can anyone advise.

Thanks
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 01 September 2007, 17:24:17
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I seem to have a problem with the CDX, the climate control works fine in the front of the vehicle but the rear seems not right.

When i have it set on say, 18 degrees, the front is nice and cool but the rear center vents are blowing very hot, if I turn up the heat the front blows cool but no change with the rear.

I remember reading something about this before on the forum.

Can anyone advise.

Thanks
 :'( :'(

Miggy the Scarlet Pimpernel.. :D

Got it working i see.
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 01 September 2007, 22:55:03
I think this post ref climate control should have gone into gereral help, could the admins help.

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Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 17:13:36
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I seem to have a problem with the CDX, the climate control works fine in the front of the vehicle but the rear seems not right.

When i have it set on say, 18 degrees, the front is nice and cool but the rear center vents are blowing very hot, if I turn up the heat the front blows cool but no change with the rear.

I remember reading something about this before on the forum.

Can anyone advise.

Thanks
 :'( :'(

Anyone had this problem before, looks like its a trip to Vx.

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: old cruiser on 02 September 2007, 18:00:03
You could try resetting the servos, by pressing AUTO & OFF buttons Simultaneously for Approx' 5 Secs and see if this sorts it.
Cheers Pete
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2007, 18:06:30
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I think this post ref climate control should have gone into gereral help, could the admins help.

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I think it should stay here - its a valid Omega Issue
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 18:08:19
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You could try resetting the servos, by pressing AUTO & OFF buttons Simultaneously for Approx' 5 Secs and see if this sorts it.
Cheers Pete


Thanks, thats the first thing I tried but it is still the same, maybe it needs re-gassing

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 19:10:06
Just been reading a bit about air con, climate control, the script talks about air con rads and matrix.
 
Would that mean rads as the same as a rad on the car, but in a very smaller version.
Would that air con rad have coolant in it or gasses.
If it is coolant would it be on the same system as the main rad or would it be an independant system.
 
Your thoughts on this please.
 
  
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2007, 19:17:21
Few things...

The A/C gas (or lack of) won't make the system misbehave like yours - it will simply not provide chilled air.

There is one radiator (engine cooling) and one heater matrix, so again, not symptoms you describe.

I may need a little think on this one  :-/
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 19:32:03
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Few things...

The A/C gas (or lack of) won't make the system misbehave like yours - it will simply not provide chilled air.

There is one radiator (engine cooling) and one heater matrix, so again, not symptoms you describe.

I may need a little think on this one  :-/

Thanks TB, if no joy I will pop into Vx, better still I will contact the dealer I purchased it from last week, he gave me 12 months warrenty, if it had been something simple, I would have delt with it myself.

 :y
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2007, 19:32:11
wondering if the actuator ball joints have popped off the air distribution flaps....
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 19:35:48
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wondering if the actuator ball joints have popped off the air distribution flaps....

When I put the circulation to screen it does stop coming out of the rear vents, also if I put it to floor it stops coming out of the rear vents.

If it were the ball joints would it come out of the rear all the time.

Title: Re: climate control
Post by: LFF64 on 02 September 2007, 19:37:34
Not that I have a clue what the problem is have you tried putting  the temp to hot and see what happens all around  :question
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 02 September 2007, 19:42:54
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Not that I have a clue what the problem is have you tried putting  the temp to hot and see what happens all around  :question

Yes mate, when I put the temp to high, the rear stays hot but the front is very cold from the vents.

Its a brain teaser this one.

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2007, 22:31:44
Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 09:19:18
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I seem to have a problem with the CDX, the climate control works fine in the front of the vehicle but the rear seems not right.

When i have it set on say, 18 degrees, the front is nice and cool but the rear center vents are blowing very hot, if I turn up the heat the front blows cool but no change with the rear.

I remember reading something about this before on the forum.

Can anyone advise.

Thanks
 :'( :'(

Just dropped her off at Vx, i will keep you posted on the outcome. I have even spoke to an auto air con engineer and he even scratched his head.
Lets see what Vx come back with.
Luckly its not costing me a penny.

 :y :y
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 15:40:54
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I seem to have a problem with the CDX, the climate control works fine in the front of the vehicle but the rear seems not right.

When i have it set on say, 18 degrees, the front is nice and cool but the rear center vents are blowing very hot, if I turn up the heat the front blows cool but no change with the rear.

I remember reading something about this before on the forum.

Can anyone advise.

Thanks
 :'( :'(

Just dropped her off at Vx, i will keep you posted on the outcome. I have even spoke to an auto air con engineer and he even scratched his head.
Lets see what Vx come back with.
Luckly its not costing me a penny.

 :y :y

Leaving in 20 mins to pick up miggy from Vx, had a long talk on the phone with the service dept, they tell me its all ok now.

I will post outcome later.

Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 22:17:32
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Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...

Well, had the car back, it worked for a couple of miles, it is now back to not working, hot air constantly out of the rear, cold out the front, if i turn up the heat, rear stays hot and my side stays cold, passenger side gets warm.

They did a tech 2 and found nothing, I will be going back tomorrow and mentioning the flap issue, but would this not have shown up on tech 2.

Well Pi*sed off at the moment, the car is not how i want it, The dealer I got it from is understanding and has been very helpful, all this will of course be covered by warranty.
My problem is if Vx say there is nothing they can do, if so I will tell them to call in a auto air con specialist.

Naffed, Naffed off totally.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2007, 22:50:22
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Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...

Well, had the car back, it worked for a couple of miles, it is now back to not working, hot air constantly out of the rear, cold out the front, if i turn up the heat, rear stays hot and my side stays cold, passenger side gets warm.

They did a tech 2 and found nothing, I will be going back tomorrow and mentioning the flap issue, but would this not have shown up on tech 2.

Well Pi*sed off at the moment, the car is not how i want it, The dealer I got it from is understanding and has been very helpful, all this will of course be covered by warranty.
My problem is if Vx say there is nothing they can do, if so I will tell them to call in a auto air con specialist.

Naffed, Naffed off totally.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Tech2 will not pick up if the air distribution flaps are busted.
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 22:55:56
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Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...

Well, had the car back, it worked for a couple of miles, it is now back to not working, hot air constantly out of the rear, cold out the front, if i turn up the heat, rear stays hot and my side stays cold, passenger side gets warm.

They did a tech 2 and found nothing, I will be going back tomorrow and mentioning the flap issue, but would this not have shown up on tech 2.

Well Pi*sed off at the moment, the car is not how i want it, The dealer I got it from is understanding and has been very helpful, all this will of course be covered by warranty.
My problem is if Vx say there is nothing they can do, if so I will tell them to call in a auto air con specialist.

Naffed, Naffed off totally.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Tech2 will not pick up if the air distribution flaps are busted.

Cheers TB, are these easy to get to on the CDX :question :question
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2007, 23:01:47
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Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...

Well, had the car back, it worked for a couple of miles, it is now back to not working, hot air constantly out of the rear, cold out the front, if i turn up the heat, rear stays hot and my side stays cold, passenger side gets warm.

They did a tech 2 and found nothing, I will be going back tomorrow and mentioning the flap issue, but would this not have shown up on tech 2.

Well Pi*sed off at the moment, the car is not how i want it, The dealer I got it from is understanding and has been very helpful, all this will of course be covered by warranty.
My problem is if Vx say there is nothing they can do, if so I will tell them to call in a auto air con specialist.

Naffed, Naffed off totally.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Tech2 will not pick up if the air distribution flaps are busted.

Cheers TB, are these easy to get to on the CDX :question :question
not entirely sure where they all are on facelift cars....
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 23:04:41
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Got to be the air distribution flaps have disconnected themselves from their servos...

If you were nearer, I'd get the Tech2 on it to see what it thinks its doing...

Well, had the car back, it worked for a couple of miles, it is now back to not working, hot air constantly out of the rear, cold out the front, if i turn up the heat, rear stays hot and my side stays cold, passenger side gets warm.

They did a tech 2 and found nothing, I will be going back tomorrow and mentioning the flap issue, but would this not have shown up on tech 2.

Well Pi*sed off at the moment, the car is not how i want it, The dealer I got it from is understanding and has been very helpful, all this will of course be covered by warranty.
My problem is if Vx say there is nothing they can do, if so I will tell them to call in a auto air con specialist.

Naffed, Naffed off totally.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Tech2 will not pick up if the air distribution flaps are busted.

Cheers TB, are these easy to get to on the CDX :question :question
not entirely sure where they all are on facelift cars....

No probs TB, i will mention to Vx tomorrow,  :y
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2007, 23:07:42
wonder if it could be failed temp sensor somewhere - ask them to do 'live data check' with tech2 and see if temp sensor readings are valid?
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 04 September 2007, 23:29:50
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wonder if it could be failed temp sensor somewhere - ask them to do 'live data check' with tech2 and see if temp sensor readings are valid?

The invoice says they did a data check and all found ok, the post abot water in cabin has had some interesting replys, ie water through pollen filter due to blocked drain, I went out and found mine full of water.

Could it be!!!!!!!
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: hotel21 on 04 September 2007, 23:33:48
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wonder if it could be failed temp sensor somewhere - ask them to do 'live data check' with tech2 and see if temp sensor readings are valid?

The invoice says they did a data check and all found ok, the post abot water in cabin has had some interesting replys, ie water through pollen filter due to blocked drain, I went out and found mine full of water.

Could it be!!!!!!!

It certainly could!

Get it cleared, dried out, and then post back!   ;)
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2007, 09:02:01
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wonder if it could be failed temp sensor somewhere - ask them to do 'live data check' with tech2 and see if temp sensor readings are valid?

The invoice says they did a data check and all found ok, the post abot water in cabin has had some interesting replys, ie water through pollen filter due to blocked drain, I went out and found mine full of water.

Could it be!!!!!!!
Not convinced this is your problem - water in through that route tends to cause fan to come on hard, or not at all, not wrong temps.
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 05 September 2007, 09:15:17
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wonder if it could be failed temp sensor somewhere - ask them to do 'live data check' with tech2 and see if temp sensor readings are valid?

The invoice says they did a data check and all found ok, the post abot water in cabin has had some interesting replys, ie water through pollen filter due to blocked drain, I went out and found mine full of water.

Could it be!!!!!!!
Not convinced this is your problem - water in through that route tends to cause fan to come on hard, or not at all, not wrong temps.

Cheers TB, Vx have the car again.
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: caolan_p on 05 September 2007, 12:17:32
thanks lads got all water out and the dirt ,at the bootom of the filter seen the we ruber seal i took it out and a jug of hot water cleaned it out   :) :) :)
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: TheBoy on 05 September 2007, 12:37:49
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thanks lads got all water out and the dirt ,at the bootom of the filter seen the we ruber seal i took it out and a jug of hot water cleaned it out   :) :) :)
Excellent :y

Try to keep it clear - every time I open bonnet (every couple of weeks to check fluids), I throw a jug of water down there - it helps clear it before it blocks, but also gives warning its blocking again :)
Title: Re: climate control
Post by: miggy on 13 September 2007, 21:41:41
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wondering if the actuator ball joints have popped off the air distribution flaps....

Absolutley spot on, that is exactly what had happened.

The temp is set to 21 degrees, if I set it more than that the actuator arm pops off the joint due to the servo dropping too much, miggy is booked into Vx next tuesday for a tech 2 as I am being told it needs to be sycronised as not to allow the servo to go to its limit. is that correct,

 :y :y :y