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Title: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 12 September 2007, 18:16:51
Hello,

My brakes were squealing and I also found the advisories for my last MOT (before I got the car) which said the discs and pads were getting on a bit. I got the front brakes and pads changed a week ago and the brakes have started squealing again. Is this just part of the bedding in process and it stops after a while or was something not done right?
Thanks!
Andy
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: Oh_mega_man on 12 September 2007, 19:22:14
Hello Mambafia, If you have a small amount of copper based grease applied to the back of the brake pads it should help remove and more importantly quieten your squealy brakes. This is not always done as part of a brake pad change so this problem does occur frequently. By the back of the brake pads i mean the non friction side(not the part that touches the brake disc.). In some cases anti-squeal shims can be bought from main dealer but sometimes are already incorporated in genuine dealer brake pads. Hope this might be of some help to you.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: ffcgary1 on 12 September 2007, 21:05:42
Hi mate, have you fitted gen vx pads if you have are they fitted correctly  as some have direction arrows on the backing plate,it not gen vx then you have to file the leading edge of the pad to stop the pads squeeling.

Regards Gary.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: hol666 on 12 September 2007, 21:10:03
As a sidenote, Halfrauds pads are also chamfered.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 13 September 2007, 16:31:18
Thanks for all your replies, I have no idea if they are VX pads or not, I'll ask the garage. They also fitted new sensors and charged me for them even though I have a GLS which doesn't give me any info on the state of them  :(
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: TheBoy on 13 September 2007, 17:14:47
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Thanks for all your replies, I have no idea if they are VX pads or not, I'll ask the garage. They also fitted new sensors and charged me for them even though I have a GLS which doesn't give me any info on the state of them  :(
idiots.

Yet another reason to DIY.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: ians on 13 September 2007, 17:22:56
sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 13 September 2007, 17:25:42
I wouldn't have the confidence to do brakes myself - I'd hate to get something like that wrong!
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2007, 17:28:35
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sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?

nope, brake sensors where available on all Omega's from 1994...

CD spec and above.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 13 September 2007, 17:34:01
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sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?

I'm probably lying or being ignorant it may have only been one  ::) - about £12?
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: ians on 13 September 2007, 17:49:17
tunnie - I meant I thought that facelift only had one sensor (near side?), whereas pre facelift had them on both sides - obviously assuming the right spec of car to have them at all.  But I may be wrong - never had a Fl
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: CaptainZok on 13 September 2007, 19:24:37
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sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?
My 2000 MY has two, just changed em.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: puffa on 13 September 2007, 20:53:06
I had this problem only last month had disks and pads all round.. needed to re mortage to foot the bill... straight away there was ear pearcing squealing before I had even got home,, normally I DIY but with one thing an another meant  had to get greasy joe to do it at the local garage, I returned following day and the guy said this sometimes happens with abspestos being taken out of brake pads and that the compound was probably too hard,, they changed them free of charge (should think so with the original price !!!) and they also installed pads with chamfered edges, and touch wood since then no problems... sweet as a nut...

might be worth speaking to the garage that did the work !!!
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 September 2007, 07:50:05
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sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?

nope, brake sensors where available on all Omega's from 1994...

CD spec and above.

Im fairly certain the GLS still has a sensor.....except it doesnt tell you on the mid (coz there isnt one)
Theres a warning light for the pads below the clock/radio display.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 September 2007, 07:52:04
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sensorS - I thought facelift only had the one anyway... :-?

I'm probably lying or being ignorant it may have only been one  ::) - about £12?

Is about right for one of them (after garage has shoved their markup on) :y
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 14 September 2007, 09:16:48
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Im fairly certain the GLS still has a sensor.....except it doesnt tell you on the mid (coz there isnt one)
Theres a warning light for the pads below the clock/radio display.
To be fair to the mechanic, apparently there was one there anyway which was broken... I wonder if anyone with a TID has seen a brake warning light below it?
Also, if I were to go back and ask if the pads were chamfered, are they likely to know what I'm on about? Cos I don't!
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: puffa on 14 September 2007, 09:59:37
chamfering is where the leading edge of the pad ( PArt that touches disk first) is at a 45 degree angle to the rest of the pad face thus eliminating the anoying squeal, and yes if the mechanic is worth his wegiht he should know what your talking about. the ones my mechanic fitted last month on my meggy were not chamfered (Cheap pads), the ones he changed them to were chamfered and squeal was gone..
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: AndersH on 14 September 2007, 12:10:12
Ok thanks, so do some cars/discs need their pads chamfering and some don't then?  :-?
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: puffa on 14 September 2007, 12:47:28
it has alot to do with the quality of the pads, if you buy cheap you get cheap i always use ferodo pads and disks when i do DIY changes and never have sqeuals and i dont use dreaded copper grease, garages will use patened parts at a cost that is favourable to not only them but also seems good on your wallet.. for example ferodo pads and disk on my 3.2 meggy £150 for the disk and pads and thats with 10% discount for buying both at the same time  !!!! thats not including the labour that a garage might charge.
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: hotel21 on 14 September 2007, 21:08:39
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....... for example ferodo pads and disk on my 3.2 meggy £150 for the disk and pads and thats with 10% discount for buying both at the same time  !!!! thats not including the labour that a garage might charge.

Gen VX front axle kit (discs and pads) is £96 retail, £69.60 Trade Club, both plus VAT.  Also never had a problem with these OE sqealing, warping or failing to stop the car.....
Title: Re: Brake squeal
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 September 2007, 21:24:31
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....... for example ferodo pads and disk on my 3.2 meggy £150 for the disk and pads and thats with 10% discount for buying both at the same time  !!!! thats not including the labour that a garage might charge.

Gen VX front axle kit (discs and pads) is £96 retail, £69.60 Trade Club, both plus VAT.  Also never had a problem with these OE sqealing, warping or failing to stop the car.....

I have gen pads and disks on mine....and they squeak a bit...not all the time...usually when hot..MDTM...thinks ive worn down the shamper and they need filing a bit....i havent tried doing this yet.... :-[