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Title: Steering wheel removal
Post by: aoliver on 20 November 2007, 17:52:20
My steering wheel is misaligned. Is it straightforward to remove and realign it ?. The Haynes manual is vague as usual and I'm a bit wary of the airbag.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 November 2007, 17:56:48
Before you do anything......you need to determine if its the wheel thats not centred or the track rod ends are in-correctly adjusted.

This involves centering the steering wheel and then turning it to full left lock followed by full right lock.....the end stops should be the mirror image of each other e.g if at full left the wheel is pointing at 10 Oclock then on full right is should be at 4 Oclock..

If they are the mirror image then its the trackng, if there not then its the wheel.

Sorry if you have already done this.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: aoliver on 20 November 2007, 18:05:14
That's interesting. The wheel was aligned until I had the front lower suspension arms replaced which included tracking. The car drives ok and doesn't pull left or right but the steering wheel is now turned slightly left when going straight. Do you think it needs retracking ?
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: davlad22 on 20 November 2007, 18:13:34
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.....the end stops should be the mirror image of each other e.g if at full left the wheel is pointing at 10 Oclock then on full right is should be at 4 Oclock.

not 2 o'clock? Or opposite?
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: hotel21 on 20 November 2007, 18:18:40
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That's interesting. The wheel was aligned until I had the front lower suspension arms replaced which included tracking. The car drives ok and doesn't pull left or right but the steering wheel is now turned slightly left when going straight. Do you think it needs retracking ?

Yes.  Squint steering is due to incorrect work when wishbones replaced.  Too much tracking on one side, not enough on the other...
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: Glyn on 20 November 2007, 19:22:33
I took my steering wheel off for the same reason.Just had tracking done at
VX main dealer and steering was slightly left.
Ok I thought, followed instructions, disconnected battery left for 1 minute.to allow
bag to discharge.Two torx screws remove airbag.Then lots of banging with rubber mallet.
Then when its off You will find just one turn on the splines is too far,so then the wheel is slightly
right.So ok put it back as it was,then airbag light will not go out.Had too reset using cheap tech2.
Ended up getting under car and adjusting both tracks half a turn.Drove up road and now a nasty pull to the left
Bugger!!!.Back under turned them back quarter turn,and now all is well,drives in a straight
line with the wheel straight as well.
Anoyed with vx,60 odd quid and still had too get under myself. Its like to them near enough is good enough.
So its worth bearing in mind the tracking only has to be slightly out to start pulling to one side.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: aoliver on 21 November 2007, 00:09:24
Very many thanks for all the above, it's interesting that the main dealer is no better than the likes of quick fit. Will try to get car tracked by someone trustworthy.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: aoliver on 21 November 2007, 15:15:34
Glyn. I had a go at the tracking myself afer rereading your post and, after eventually realising that one side seems to be on a l/h thread, the car goes straight with the wheel in the middle. Very many thanks for saving me the pain of removing the steering wheel for nothing.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: chrisdb on 21 November 2007, 16:22:18
If you remove the steering wheel do not reconnect the battery until the airbag is reconnected, otherwise you'll have to get the warning light reset.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: TheBoy on 21 November 2007, 18:14:36
I full geometry is worthwhile on Omegas, rather than wasting money of tracking/4 wheel alignments.

Additionally, my understanding is that a pull to one side cannot be a tracking issue.
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: davlad22 on 21 November 2007, 21:20:59
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Anoyed with vx,60 odd quid and still had too get under myself. Its like to them near enough is good enough.
Just take it back the next day and ask them to do it again  :-?
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: hotel21 on 21 November 2007, 21:43:08
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I full geometry is worthwhile on Omegas, rather than wasting money of tracking/4 wheel alignments.

Additionally, my understanding is that a pull to one side cannot be a tracking issue.

Think it can...    :-/

If one front wheel is worn in, tread wise, at straight ahead and the other is the 'secondary' and is too far toe'd out, it will tend to drag the car to that side as it is being turned partially sideways and always trying to be the 'dominant' wheel, if you follow.


Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: adnan on 21 November 2007, 22:40:33
all u need to do is to get the car realigned, they'll fix the steering wheel too
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: hotel21 on 21 November 2007, 23:04:29
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all u need to do is to get the car realigned, they'll fix the steering wheel too

Close, but not quite....

Getting the steering aligned is one thing, getting the car geometry set up properly is completely another.....   :y
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: OMEGA VXR on 22 November 2007, 13:22:52
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That's interesting. The wheel was aligned until I had the front lower suspension arms replaced which included tracking. The car drives ok and doesn't pull left or right but the steering wheel is now turned slightly left when going straight. Do you think it needs retracking ?

Me & my dad had the exact same problem and like some i took my steering wheel off thinking a quick fix and it still isnt right now! steering wheel to the right
it drives straight with no pulling so what will cure it then? a full geometry set up?? who does this in Leicester?
Title: Re: Steering wheel removal
Post by: Glyn on 22 November 2007, 19:39:02
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Anoyed with vx,60 odd quid and still had too get under myself. Its like to them near enough is good enough.
Just take it back the next day and ask them to do it again  :-?

After sitting in waiting room for 2 hours, which to be fair was due to a siezed rod,apparently.
I thought it would be quicker to tweak it myself,as no doubt they would say it was within specs.
If you put a line through the centre it would have been five to twelve not twelve,ay not be uch but irritaded
me no end(obsesive compulsive).Plus it did now drive without pulling left.
For anyone thats interested the before and after Toe measurements were
LF before 2.0in       after 0.
RF before 0            after 1.25in
LR before 1.25out   after 1.25in
RR before 1.25in    after  0.75in

As you can see even after they have adjusted it its not equal for instance the
RR is now 0.75in and LR 1.25in. To me I feel they should be equal EG:both 1.00 in,
but after pointing this out the chap behind the desk says they are within tolerances.
And to be fair it drives straight but I know if I had the tools they have they would be equal.
Do you know I would probably be happier if I had not seen the figures,ignorance is bliss.
Apologies for prattling on a bit.