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Title: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 24 December 2007, 20:31:00
Hi and a Merry Xmas to you all  :)

 Is it possible to disconect the drivers airbag and change the steering wheel for a after market wheel (Momo etc etc) and still have all the other airbags working correctly, just in case some thing goes wrong and you need them one day  ::)
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Bandit127 on 24 December 2007, 20:49:46
Don't know if this will work but it could be usefull just when you really need it...
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/5969.html

This, BTW is when you really need it. 40 mph can be the moment your timer runs out.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1194775935

Jim
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: ffcgary1 on 24 December 2007, 21:40:37
IF YOU DISCONNECT THE AIR BAG YOU WILL BRING THE WARNING LIGHT ON THE DASH, AND SHOULD YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT  THE INSURANCE CO MAY BE INTERESTED AS TO WHY YOU DISABLED A SAFTEY SYSTEM. BE CAREFUL MATE. :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Andy B on 24 December 2007, 22:46:46
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IF YOU DISCONNECT THE AIR BAG YOU WILL BRING THE WARNING LIGHT ON THE DASH, AND SHOULD YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT  THE INSURANCE CO MAY BE INTERESTED AS TO WHY YOU DISABLED A SAFTEY SYSTEM. BE CAREFUL MATE. :y

The air bag system is NOT MOT'able though. I'd have thought the insurance would assume that you'd have less chance of making a claim if the SRS system didn't work.  :o  :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 24 December 2007, 23:36:17
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IF YOU DISCONNECT THE AIR BAG YOU WILL BRING THE WARNING LIGHT ON THE DASH, AND SHOULD YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT  THE INSURANCE CO MAY BE INTERESTED AS TO WHY YOU DISABLED A SAFTEY SYSTEM. BE CAREFUL MATE. :y

The air bag system is NOT MOT'able though. I'd have thought the insurance would assume that you'd have less chance of making a claim if the SRS system didn't work.  :o  :y

 I know that if you diconect the steering wheel airbag, the warning light will come on, what I want to know is, is there a way to make the system think that the steering wheel airbag is still conented when it is not !!! and all the other airbags would still work OK if the car was in an accident.
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: ELITE-3.0-V6 on 25 December 2007, 08:44:11
The air bag has got nothing to do with a insurence claim, i've seen cars smacked hard in the front and the aor bags havent gone off so no problems there and it plays NO part in the mot..
If you remove the drivers bag then the system will fault, there is no way to get the others to work unless you have the drivers one..

If u remove the drivers one then the rest wont work and the air bag light will be on, if your happy to have no air bags then just remove the bulb from the dash..  :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 25 December 2007, 09:52:49
Is there not a way that I can reconect the circuit, so that the rest of them will work  :-?
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Mike Collins on 25 December 2007, 10:04:00
You may be able to substitute a resistor, I have vague memories of a post somewhere that gave a value.

Lose more than you gain though.
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 26 December 2007, 10:34:11
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You may be able to substitute a resistor, I have vague memories of a post somewhere that gave a value.

Lose more than you gain though.

 Gaining a nice Steering Wheel, like a MOMO "Millenium Evo" or a Isotta "Sense"  :) :) losing a Vauxhall steering wheel and airbag
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 December 2007, 13:47:03
Not worth it.

The safety systems are designed around airbag use, if you don't mind the smashed face in the event of an accident. Pre air bag safety systems were slightly different.

An aftermarket wheel doesn't make it go faster or handle better.

There are equipped steering wheels available. I think MIkeDundee has one
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 December 2007, 14:06:03
6 ohm resistor will fool it.....not that I condone doing it  :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 26 December 2007, 22:47:12
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Not worth it.

The safety systems are designed around airbag use, if you don't mind the smashed face in the event of an accident. Pre air bag safety systems were slightly different.

An aftermarket wheel doesn't make it go faster or handle better.

There are equipped steering wheels available. I think MIkeDundee has one

 Who said that I want to make the car go any faster or handle better, by fitting an aftermarket steering wheel and also you don't always get a smashed face in an accident, I didn't when I stuck my old Mondeo through a hedge at 75 mph and the f*^king airbag didn't go off then, have a look on some Salvage sites, I've seen car that the airbag should have gone off but hasn't and some side impacts where it has  ::) you pays your money and you take your chances, thats life.  :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: ELITE-3.0-V6 on 27 December 2007, 10:44:48
For all the sake of messing around mate and blowing ur head off over a air bag switch i'd just keep your wheel as it is.

I might be speaking outa term here but i don't think a momo steering wheel will really suit the inside of a omega after all it's not really that sort of car more like a long distance cruser...

rob  :y
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: shyboy on 27 December 2007, 18:23:23
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Not worth it.

The safety systems are designed around airbag use, if you don't mind the smashed face in the event of an accident. Pre air bag safety systems were slightly different.

An aftermarket wheel doesn't make it go faster or handle better.

There are equipped steering wheels available. I think MIkeDundee has one

 Who said that I want to make the car go any faster or handle better, by fitting an aftermarket steering wheel and also you don't always get a smashed face in an accident, I didn't when I stuck my old Mondeo through a hedge at 75 mph and the f*^king airbag didn't go off then, have a look on some Salvage sites, I've seen car that the airbag should have gone off but hasn't and some side impacts where it has  ::) you pays your money and you take your chances, thats life.  :y

Or death!
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: tunnie on 27 December 2007, 18:26:34
have to agree with others, why on earth would you want to put a 'race' look wheel in?

You reducing the saftey if you have a crash, just for that sporty looking steering wheel??

Its fine in something like a Nova which does not have airbags, but in a modern car its going to look as right as a £9.76 bank note!
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: Minispud on 27 December 2007, 22:25:54
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have to agree with others, why on earth would you want to put a 'race' look wheel in?

You reducing the saftey if you have a crash, just for that sporty looking steering wheel??

Its fine in something like a Nova which does not have airbags, but in a modern car its going to look as right as a £9.76 bank note!

 Have you ever seen some one that has had a head on smash at 50-60 mph, it's just like hitting a solid object at 100 -120 mph. No Saftey products help you, you died. Air bags are good for anything up to 40 ish but after that it's out of your hands, all this "NCAP" stuff is just like two vehicles hitting each other at 20 mph and I've fallen off my push bike at that speed more than once, at that speed you should be able to miss each other  :o How many saftey products are on say a "2002 TVR Cerbera 4.5 Lieghtwieght " Ebay Item number: 260196082646 Safety Features:  Alarm   :-? :-? :-?
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: TheBoy on 28 December 2007, 11:24:33
A resistor is enough to fool the system.

The insurance company will use the fact that you have purposely disabled vital safety systems.  The car's safety rating (which has an effect on premiums) is based of factory safety systems.

Not sure if its a myth, but I have heard of people saying that insurance companies not fully paying out if passenger side disabled (some cars allow you to do this), and an adult in the passenger seat...

As an utter minimum, contact insurance company and ask the question (and if no change to premium, get that in writing)
Title: Re: Air Bags
Post by: ffcgary1 on 28 December 2007, 12:05:07
So back to my original post 14 replys ago, saftey systems are in place to increase the chances of surviving a smash, and the insurance co will make there quote on the system installed. I know that if i was to have an accident then i know it would rather be in the omega than the mk2 escort or mk3 cortina that i had many moons ago. Please remember folks, that at the end of the day it is a piece of metal and MORE importent is your LIFE and the LIFES of your loved ones and other people and there loved ones that we should be thinking of, not a bloody steering wheel and disconnecting saftey systems.