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Title: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Bo Bo on 05 October 2007, 08:13:26
I was chatting to a chap at work earlier this week saying how easy it is to get my car sideways in the wet & he said that's because you have fat tyres & the wider they are the more rain gets trapped in the grooves & you loose traction  :-?
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2007, 09:00:00
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I was chatting to a chap at work earlier this week saying how easy it is to get my car sideways in the wet & he said that's because you have fat tyres & the wider they are the more rain gets trapped in the grooves & you loose traction  :-?
Nought to do with the 207bhp under you're foot then....
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: hotel21 on 05 October 2007, 10:12:49
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I was chatting to a chap at work earlier this week saying how easy it is to get my car sideways in the wet & he said that's because you have fat tyres & the wider they are the more rain gets trapped in the grooves & you loose traction  :-?

Your chap at work does have a point though.  If I recall correctly SAAB and others used to put narrow tyres on their rally cars when going through snow covered stages.  Idea was that the tyre width cut through the snow rather than sitting on top and compacting it, thus giving some steering/drive.

When the tread pattern is slightly down on tyres as wide as those on an Omega they may not disperse water as quickly or efficiently.  This allows the power at the wheels, in common with other powerfull cars, to supercede grip and car to loose traction.
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Bo Bo on 05 October 2007, 10:21:16
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Your chap at work does have a point though.
I said at the time that I see his point but at the same time I would have thought there's more rubber on the road  :-?
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Andy B on 05 October 2007, 10:27:35
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Your chap at work does have a point though.
I said at the time that I see his point but at the same time I would have thought there's more rubber on the road  :-?

If you want more rubber on the road, drive on bald tyres! Seriously the tread is there to get rid of the water when it's wet.
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: IrmscherKris on 05 October 2007, 12:01:52
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If you want more rubber on the road, drive on bald tyres! Seriously the tread is there to get rid of the water when it's wet.

Slicks are the way forward  :y

Expect 12 points off the plod if you get caught though!
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 05 October 2007, 12:29:20
Is it true to say that the 'V' shape pattern you see on some tyres are better at dispersing water?
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: IrmscherKris on 05 October 2007, 12:32:01
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Is it true to say that the 'V' shape pattern you see on some tyres are better at dispersing water?

I think so, it sort of creates a channel for the water to escape.
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2007, 16:28:24
In rain, wider tyres (with good tread) better - more surface area, and decent tread stops it aquaplaning.

In snow/ice, narrower tyres, and wider tend to sit 'on' the ice rather than 'through' it...
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Tony H on 05 October 2007, 17:38:34
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I was chatting to a chap at work earlier this week saying how easy it is to get my car sideways in the wet & he said that's because you have fat tyres & the wider they are the more rain gets trapped in the grooves & you loose traction  :-?

Your chap at work does have a point though.  If I recall correctly SAAB and others used to put narrow tyres on their rally cars when going through snow covered stages.  Idea was that the tyre width cut through the snow rather than sitting on top and compacting it, thus giving some steering/drive.

When the tread pattern is slightly down on tyres as wide as those on an Omega they may not disperse water as quickly or efficiently.  This allows the power at the wheels, in common with other powerfull cars, to supercede grip and car to loose traction.
The old Morris Minors were good in snow due to there large diameter yet thin tyres
One of the best rubber lubricants is water
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2007, 17:45:48
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Is it true to say that
the 'V' shape pattern you see on some tyres are better at dispersing water?

before yes..But now I see expensive rain tyres change the design..Not V shaped
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2007, 18:44:28
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Is it true to say that
the 'V' shape pattern you see on some tyres are better at dispersing water?

before yes..But now I see expensive rain tyres change the design..Not V shaped
In ultra performance wet tyres (ie track use) they tend to go for small 'blocks' of rubber, as the stresses aid warmth, hence grip
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 October 2007, 19:11:54
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Is it true to say that
the 'V' shape pattern you see on some tyres are better at dispersing water?

before yes..But now I see expensive rain tyres change the design..Not V shaped
In ultra performance wet tyres (ie track use) they tend to go for small 'blocks' of rubber, as the stresses aid warmth, hence grip


Yep..also longitudinal channels are wider and deeper..
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Dazzler on 05 October 2007, 20:05:40
I must agree, my LC Rep with its 265 rears steps out at the slightest blip on the throttle ;D
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: STMO123 on 05 October 2007, 21:24:48
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I was chatting to a chap at work earlier this week saying how easy it is to get my car sideways in the wet & he said that's because you have fat tyres & the wider they are the more rain gets trapped in the grooves & you loose traction  :-?

Your chap at work does have a point though.  If I recall correctly SAAB and others used to put narrow tyres on their rally cars when going through snow covered stages.  Idea was that the tyre width cut through the snow rather than sitting on top and compacting it, thus giving some steering/drive.

When the tread pattern is slightly down on tyres as wide as those on an Omega they may not disperse water as quickly or efficiently.  This allows the power at the wheels, in common with other powerfull cars, to supercede grip and car to loose traction.
The old Morris Minors were good in snow due to there large diameter yet thin tyres
One of the best rubber lubricants is water

Keep your filthy sex life to yourself, pervert  :D
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Tony H on 05 October 2007, 21:46:22
Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: STMO123 on 05 October 2007, 22:12:20
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Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)

I've been watching, waiting........ ;D
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 05 October 2007, 22:28:38
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Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)

Would you like me to explain this to you Steve  :D
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Tony H on 06 October 2007, 19:37:15
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Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)

I've been watching, waiting........ ;D
And youve got the cheek to call me a pervert by the sounds of it you are an accomplished STALKER :o :P ;)
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: STMO123 on 06 October 2007, 19:46:42
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Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)

I've been watching, waiting........ ;D
And youve got the cheek to call me a pervert by the sounds of it you are an accomplished STALKER :o :P ;)

Hmmm......I was thinking of  "doing a Macburger" when I sold my omega, but, no. I'm too paranoid. You'll all talk about me and I wont be able to answer you back. ;D
Title: Re: Slippery When Wet
Post by: Dazzler on 06 October 2007, 19:53:49
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Where have you been hiding STMO, ::) I've missed your razor sharp whit :P ;)

I've been watching, waiting........ ;D
And youve got the cheek to call me a pervert by the sounds of it you are an accomplished STALKER :o :P ;)

Hmmm......I was thinking of  "doing a Macburger" when I sold my omega, but, no. I'm too paranoid. You'll all talk about me and I wont be able to answer you back. ;D
Fair point ;D