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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: TheBoy on 21 January 2008, 19:06:49
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This is for MV6, they are knackered.
Vx part (not TC item :(), or pattern. If later, any recommendations?
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if you are after quality items then bilsteins would be a good place to start.I believe they were OE fit on the MV6 as well
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if you are after quality items then bilsteins would be a good place to start.I believe they were OE fit on the MV6 as well
any particular type - i guess they do lots?
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Is this Andy Drive from the Autobahnstormers site by chance??
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hang about, did'nt you have new springs when i had the Senny around DTM's?
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Is this Andy Drive from the Autobahnstormers site by chance??
Yes...
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Is this Andy Drive from the Autobahnstormers site by chance??
Yes...
Top bloke him :y
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Not been quoted yet.
These are MV6 (sports/lowered chassis) shocks. The lowering is done on the shocks, not the springs, so they are different. They are not self levelling (air) type.
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hang about, did'nt you have new springs when i had the Senny around DTM's?
Yes. Springs are fine. Shocks are shot.
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hang about, did'nt you have new springs when i had the Senny around DTM's?
Yes. Springs are fine. Shocks are shot.
I seam to remember DTM mentioning they were buggered!!! Thought you had them replaced!
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hang about, did'nt you have new springs when i had the Senny around DTM's?
Yes. Springs are fine. Shocks are shot.
I seam to remember DTM mentioning they were buggered!!! Thought you had them replaced!
Nope, not used the car really. Also, passed MOT fine (as shocks aren't leaking). Just want to get it sorted now.
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Is this Andy Drive from the Autobahnstormers site by chance??
Yes...
Top bloke him :y
Cheers Bud :y
I'll leave the cash in a brown enverlope under the bin on the left, same place as last time ;D
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Is this Andy Drive from the Autobahnstormers site by chance??
Yes...
Top bloke him :y
Cheers Bud :y
I'll leave the cash in a brown enverlope under the bin on the left, same place as last time ;D
Plesure mate, its true, you seem to find the parts the others can't :y
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what have you been quoted for OE ones, if at all? Have you got the pump up type or normal type, I'll have a look in the morning before i go out on the road.(got to do some repping tomorrow :-/
cheers
Andy
Any update?
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Hi Mate
Bloody vauxhall shocks!!
I can get it down to two numbers. either 90542942 @ £45.85 each
or 72119086 @ 42.86 each, both + VAT
They are T/c Prices as well
The only way i cam sort out which is which is from an ID code off the old shock, any chance of getting it at all
Cheers
Andy
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I'm in need of a pair of 1998 MV6 Estate autolevellers (I do a lot of hauling of random stuff and find it invaluable) for mine....
Any Ideas?
Cheers,
Edwin
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Hi Mate
Bloody vauxhall shocks!!
I can get it down to two numbers. either 90542942 @ £45.85 each
or 72119086 @ 42.86 each, both + VAT
They are T/c Prices as well
The only way i cam sort out which is which is from an ID code off the old shock, any chance of getting it at all
Cheers
Andy
Prefacelift MV6 shocks aren't on TC (or weren't last year, still waiting for this years book).
I'll have a peek at EPC myself later on (on other laptop) :y
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I gave dealer ident code when I did the fronts, but am certain they supplied std shocks rather than MV6 ones, as the front seems high to me. I'll lower the front on the springs though.
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I'm in need of a pair of 1998 MV6 Estate autolevellers (I do a lot of hauling of random stuff and find it invaluable) for mine....
Any Ideas?
Cheers,
Edwin
Edwin
Yours should be 72119085 @ £76.23 each inc VAT
Cheers
Andy
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Hmmm, once again, EPC seems as much use as a used condom smeared in dogsh!te >:(
I'll jack the tinker up and get idents >:(
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and we have to live with that day in day out >:(
I like it when is lists: for lowered sports chassis, then says not for sports lowered chassis, wish they would make up the bloody mind
give us shout if you find the id code
Andy
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and we have to live with that day in day out >:(
I like it when is lists: for lowered sports chassis, then says not for sports lowered chassis, wish they would make up the bloody mind
give us shout if you find the id code
Andy
if weather is ok, i'll jack up at the weekend and have a poke around
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I could ask my colleague as he’s selling Opel/Vx parts in Poland. I bought two Bilstein front shock absorbers for ca 36-40 pounds/each.
Ok.
I have more answers.
Rear shock absorbers for MV6 (without NIVO):
Bilsterin - £34/pc
Magneti Marelli - £20
Delphi (not recommended though, many warranty claims) - £21
SLR - £25
Sachs & Monroe - £43 (same quality as Bilstein but more expensiv)
All of these are oil-gas ones. Prices include VAT, but don’t include delivery. I will be receiving one parcel from Poland, and can send it with my parcel (1£/1kg)
I don’t get any “shares” from these prices.
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I belive this issue has been raised before:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1173468176
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On another note, I am not too familair with the MV6 suspension setup, but my understanding is that the dampers do not determine height, the springs do.... the dampers simply acommodate the springs. So it would seem that the dampers are the same height for the lower MV6 and for the standard car, though the MV6 may be stiffer...
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On another note, I am not too familair with the MV6 suspension setup, but my understanding is that the dampers do not determine height, the springs do.... the dampers simply acommodate the springs. So it would seem that the dampers are the same height for the lower MV6 and for the standard car, though the MV6 may be stiffer...
Prefacelift MV6 uses same springs as rest of range, but is lowered via shorter shocks.
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On another note, I am not too familair with the MV6 suspension setup, but my understanding is that the dampers do not determine height, the springs do.... the dampers simply acommodate the springs. So it would seem that the dampers are the same height for the lower MV6 and for the standard car, though the MV6 may be stiffer...
Prefacelift MV6 uses same springs as rest of range, but is lowered via shorter shocks.
TB, I know you have an MV6 and I don't, but I have doubts about that..... I always knew that the shocks do not affect the ride height, only the springs do.... indeed this is how I lowered my Astra at the time, standard shocks but shorter springs.
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i was always led to belive shorter springs not shocks lowers car !! unless on mcpherson strut then its shock lentgh !! :y
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On another note, I am not too familair with the MV6 suspension setup, but my understanding is that the dampers do not determine height, the springs do.... the dampers simply acommodate the springs. So it would seem that the dampers are the same height for the lower MV6 and for the standard car, though the MV6 may be stiffer...
Prefacelift MV6 uses same springs as rest of range, but is lowered via shorter shocks.
TB, I know you have an MV6 and I don't, but I have doubts about that..... I always knew that the shocks do not affect the ride height, only the springs do.... indeed this is how I lowered my Astra at the time, standard shocks but shorter springs.
Trust me, the prefacelift MV6 springs are the same for other models, lowering all done on the shocks.
Not sure about facelift models, as never really bothered to investigate.
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On another note, I am not too familair with the MV6 suspension setup, but my understanding is that the dampers do not determine height, the springs do.... the dampers simply acommodate the springs. So it would seem that the dampers are the same height for the lower MV6 and for the standard car, though the MV6 may be stiffer...
Prefacelift MV6 uses same springs as rest of range, but is lowered via shorter shocks.
TB, I know you have an MV6 and I don't, but I have doubts about that..... I always knew that the shocks do not affect the ride height, only the springs do.... indeed this is how I lowered my Astra at the time, standard shocks but shorter springs.
Trust me, the prefacelift MV6 springs are the same for other models, lowering all done on the shocks.
Not sure about facelift models, as never really bothered to investigate.
OK, I had a look on the Internet to remind me... the shocks may be shorter, but this does not reduce the ride height by itself, they are merely shorter in order to accommodate for shorter springs which do lower the car. See also:
http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Suspension-Guide_W0QQugidZ10000000001881176
So I can't see how the car can be lower if the springs are the same length.... :o
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Also, ECS has a different P/N for 'SPORT' suspension springs.... :-?
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THE PREFACELIFT MV6 USES NORMAL SPRINGS AND IS LOWERED ON THE SHOCKS
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THE PREFACELIFT MV6 USES NORMAL SPRINGS AND IS LOWERED ON THE SHOCKS
you sure? ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
(joke honest!)
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Jaime.....
Bellingers in Grove have an account at parts for your trade card name (O.S. of B. ) , and they do pretty decent discounts even on stuff that's not part of TC list....
My Old elite estate got brand new rear suspension 6 months ago.... they did a fairly good price..... better than I was quoted elsewhere mate
JamesV6 is getting a LOT of new stuff on that car... :-[
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THE PREFACELIFT MV6 USES NORMAL SPRINGS AND IS LOWERED ON THE SHOCKS
I replaced the rear springs on my minifacelift with brand new Irmschers which were 30mm lowered. Certainly dropped the rear compared to standard....
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I stand my ground putting all of my 4553 posts on the line ( :'() - [size=10]the shocks can't lower the car[/size] :-X
There, I said it....
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I stand my ground putting all of my 4553 posts on the line ( :'() - [size=10]the shocks can't lower the car[/size] :-X
There, I said it....
I won't remove your posts, because I'm a nice person sometimes ;D
Having replaced springs and shocks on mine, I'm unlikely to change my standpoint.
I think its probably just better to agree to differ ;D
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I stand my ground putting all of my 4553 posts on the line ( :'() - [size=10]the shocks can't lower the car[/size] :-X
There, I said it....
I won't remove your posts, because I'm a nice person sometimes ;D
Having replaced springs and shocks on mine, I'm unlikely to change my standpoint.
I think its probably just better to agree to differ ;D
I started reading your reply and did not dare to look under my avatar, fearing the worst....
Phew.... (where do you get an icon of a sweaty forehead when you need one?)
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You guys who think the shocks can't adjust the ride height.... you're wrong :P
Mostly the ride height is determined by the springs, but the dampers can have a range they like to settle in, causing them to exert a force on the springs that changes the ride height. Even though they're not "damping" while in a steady state, they can still resist the expansion of the spring. It's probably pretty unusual to adjust ride height via the dampers on normal road cars, but it can be done and appears to be the case on the MV6.
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I stand my ground putting all of my 4553 posts on the line ( :'() - [size=10]the shocks can't lower the car[/size] :-X
There, I said it....
I won't remove your posts, because I'm a nice person sometimes ;D
Having replaced springs and shocks on mine, I'm unlikely to change my standpoint.
I think its probably just better to agree to differ ;D
I started reading your reply and did not dare to look under my avatar, fearing the worst....
Phew.... (where do you get an icon of a sweaty forehead when you need one?)
Yes, they are lowered on the shocks because shocks can achieve this funstion (how do you think the self leveling works!).
Be careful of the springs on EPC as the facelift sports chassis did use different springs but, not the pre-facelift cars.
Ow, I sorted the post count for you to save TB the work.... ;D
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Thanks for th P/N for the estate auto-leveller shocks...
Interestingly I'm on the factory Irmscher option springs all round - front shocks were stock pre-facelift. they were in fact knackered whic dropped another 10mm out of it... It *really* didn't go over speedbumps as it had all of 120mm clearance at the front.
New set of OEM Bilsteins fixed that (and stopped it bouncing about like a bunny possesed).
The rears are interesting as it does have the Irmscher springs on it, but this seems mad, because the autolevellers will take out any drop :-)
Mind you - I did load it up with an entire house, and looked at it again before levelling it - it looks better higher at the rear with the mad front air dam on mine i think ....
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Can I just add that by adjusting either the position of the spring seat, length of the piston rod or depending on damper design, adjusting the point at which it rests through changing the gas/oil system in terms of resistance can all adjust suspension height.
In the case of the omega, if the springs are the same I would guess that its running a shorter piston rod to hold the vehicle lower, not sure how this would affect the need for sag though. Only way to tell is to get two side by side and check the rod travel etc.
L8rs
Nad
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I'm in need of a pair of 1998 MV6 Estate autolevellers (I do a lot of hauling of random stuff and find it invaluable) for mine....
Any Ideas?
Cheers,
Edwin
Sorry to drag up an old thread here, but better than yet another on a similar "thread"; if you know what I mean?
I have an auto levelling Elite facelift 3.2. I note that the MV6 is lover than the standard range? Is that correct?
Does this mean I can lower and stiffen my Elite, but retain the auto-levelling, by moving to MV6 parts?
If so, what would I need to change, shocks, springs, both?
What would the part numbers be?
Thanks
N